Spousal KITAS to KITAP conversion (also applicable for Spousal SosBud to KITAS).

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Well...if you read the law what I said is correct. In addition, members of this forum have successfully applied for (and ultimately received) Kitap immediately upon receiving their spouse sponsored Kitas, so there is no 'waiting period' after receiving Kitas provided one has been married for at least two years.
I/we changed my wife sponsored KITAS to KITAP almost immediately. I will need to start this process again soon.
 

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Married and REGISTERED with Indonesian system for 2 years.
Fair point, you are only considered married under Indonesian law when you are either married in Indonesia or have properly registered your overseas marriage in Indonesia.
 

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Fair point, you are only considered married under Indonesian law when you are either married in Indonesia or have properly registered your overseas marriage in Indonesia.
Hello
My Visa process allready done, I would like to share my experience here if anyone need:

We married here at Hong kong and subitted our marriage to Indonesian Consulate.
Indonesian Consulate provide a paper to us which is shown married.

Online Submission
a. Need to select ADMISSION VISA type and after that need to find index 317
b. About documents :
Foreigners Passport Cover Copy
Foreignres Passport ID page copy
Spouse Bank Statement (Requiring at least 1500 USD or rupiah which is mach this amount or any other currency. We submit
HKD
We also submit foreigners statement but this is not required
We also submit 2 document which is sponsor povide guarantee.
Sponsor (spouze) INdonesian ID Card copy
c. Additional documet
Need to select Marriage reason (I think 3th line) And submit your original marriage certificate and registered certificate
(Indonesian) Registered one, which is provided by consulate also acceptable.

Online KITAS submission proces take 5 working days. They are sending e-mail after submission for payment and when done they send telex confirmation copy to spouze e--mail adress.

Here and many other area I founded that for the KITAS submission need 2 years married period. NO, we just married few months ago. Not required as much longer time.

And also I read many articles if you have KITAS visa also need to apply Work visa. This is also not correct. New regulation are allowed to work the KITAS visa. But if setup a company or if required something additional I do not know yet. But basicly KITAS allready allowed work at indonesia.

When receive TELEX confirmation, you need to go to consulate or embassy, which you provided. They will collect your passport and 1 days later you will have at least 12 months KITAS visa.

After arrive indonesia, within 60 days you need to submit ITAS too. They will generate ID and driver licence for you.

This is the process and actually easy process. We got a lot of headache because we do not know. Everyone offer different things and a lot of agent asking amazin money. No, if you apply KITAS visa, you go to immigratiion website and apply yourself. No one need it. Not need waste money.

But there are one point: Before KITAS application, Spouze must be register on Immigration website as Sponsor. After this you can submit KITAS application online only.

Good luck evreyone.
Cheers
 

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After arrive indonesia, within 60 days you need to submit ITAS too. They will generate ID and driver licence for you.
Driver licence? Are you sure about that? Can you provide more details?
 

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Here and many other area I founded that for the KITAS submission need 2 years married period. NO, we just married few months ago. Not required as much longer time.
No, on this forum it is (correctly) stated many times that you need to be married two (2) years if you want to apply for a KITAP sponsored by a spouse. Not a KITAS.

It seems you mix up KITAP and KTP as well (see your previous posts); a KTP is an ID card for an Indonesian citizen (so your WNI spouse), a KITAP is the more long term version of a KITAS. (Permanent vs temporary stay permit.)

Of course @Jamu is right; a drivers license has nothing to do with KITAS. And don’t forget you still need a SKTT; that is the name of the ID card and you still need to take action for that during your civil registration, it is not automatic.

About working here; you really need to catch up and read some threads on this forum.
 

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No, on this forum it is (correctly) stated many times that you need to be married two (2) years if you want to apply for a KITAP sponsored by a spouse. Not a KITAS.

It seems you mix up KITAP and KTP as well (see your previous posts); a KTP is an ID card for an Indonesian citizen (so your WNI spouse), a KITAP is the more long term version of a KITAS. (Permanent vs temporary stay permit.)

Of course @Jamu is right; a drivers license has nothing to do with KITAS. And don’t forget you still need a SKTT; that is the name of the ID card and you still need to take action for that during your civil registration, it is not automatic.

About working here; you really need to catch up and read some threads on this forum.
Hi yes, Actually I did not have any idea before about KITAS and KITAP
But based on previous regulation, yes you are right. But now, baset on new regulation, KITAS also allowed some of KITAP permits. like work etc..

Today I apply visa here at hong kong, Consulate requested
a. Passport original and ID page copy
b. Hong Kong ID Card Copy
c. Merriage Certificate
d. Application form (just fill it)
e. 1 Passport size picture
f. Sponsor ID cart copy

The proces take 1 day.

When I arrive indonesia and register local immigration, I will update all repuirements.
 

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Hi yes, Actually I did not have any idea before about KITAS and KITAP
But based on previous regulation, yes you are right. But now, baset on new regulation, KITAS also allowed some of KITAP permits. like work etc..

Today I apply visa here at hong kong, Consulate requested
a. Passport original and ID page copy
b. Hong Kong ID Card Copy
c. Merriage Certificate
d. Application form (just fill it)
e. 1 Passport size picture
f. Sponsor ID cart copy

The proces take 1 day.

When I arrive indonesia and register local immigration, I will update all repuirements.
Driver licence just info. I do not know. But I allready have an driver licence, if KITAS allowed to convert it ofcourse will be have driver licence too. But It is local process.
 

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I applied for my kitap and i check in the website of izin tinggal when I entered my application no. and my passport number this message is shown can anyone help in that is it mean my application done or not thank you


Status Permohonan: KEPUTUSAN DITJENIM ALIH STATUS
 

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Hi

I applied for my kitap and i check in the website of izin tinggal when I entered my application no. and my passport number this message is shown can anyone help in that is it mean my application done or not thank you

Status Permohonan: KEPUTUSAN DITJENIM ALIH STATUS
Well, according to Google translate it means: "DECISION. DEPOSITS ARE OVER STATUS"

That is about as mysterious as the Zen question, "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"

But don't panic. I am sure someone with greater knowledge will soon set you right.
 

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Well, according to Google translate it means: "DECISION. DEPOSITS ARE OVER STATUS"

That is about as mysterious as the Zen question, "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"

But don't panic. I am sure someone with greater knowledge will soon set you right.
Thanks for your quick response appreciate
 

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Status Permohonan: KEPUTUSAN DITJENIM ALIH STATUS
DitJenIm means in fact DIrektoraT JENderal IMigrasi.

So it says something like: "Application Status: Decision (Directorate of) Imigration status conversion"

It is really not a complete sentence. (Did it change status? Is the decision pending?) If I had to guess, I would say it's still in process.

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DitJenIm means in fact DIrektoraT JENderal IMigrasi.

So it says something like: "Application Status: Decision (Directorate of) Imigration status conversion"

It is really not a complete sentence. (Did it change status? Is the decision pending?) If I had to guess, I would say it's still in process.

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It's change status from spouse kitas to kitab
 

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DitJenIm means in fact DIrektoraT JENderal IMigrasi.

So it says something like: "Application Status: Decision (Directorate of) Imigration status conversion"

It is really not a complete sentence. (Did it change status? Is the decision pending?) If I had to guess, I would say it's still in process.

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@dafluff, regarding your itas to itap application, did you pay the fees prior to the home interview or after? The reason for asking is that after submitting my documents I was given a paper receipt to be presented at the bank for payment of the itap, merp and biometric fees, but was then told to wait first for the interview before paying - however, two weeks later after document submission, I am still waiting for the call to schedule the appointment. Not sure if I heard them correctly regarding payment sequence, and don't want to be the bottleneck myself for not having made payment yet...
 

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@dafluff, regarding your itas to itap application, did you pay the fees prior to the home interview or after? The reason for asking is that after submitting my documents I was given a paper receipt to be presented at the bank for payment of the itap, merp and biometric fees, but was then told to wait first for the interview before paying - however, two weeks later after document submission, I am still waiting for the call to schedule the appointment. Not sure if I heard them correctly regarding payment sequence, and don't want to be the bottleneck myself for not having made payment yet...
Hi
When you arrive indonesia with your spouse visa which is sticked to your passport), you have to submit within 30 days. At the beginning, you need to report your arrival / adress online. When you report your arrival/adress online you will receeive an e-mail from jakarta and it will says which local office you need to go. If did not received e-mail, you call jakarta or re-submit it. (You have to cancel first one). The important point, do not change your local adress which is you declare on your visa submission. (if you give different adress from registered adress you may not receive e-mail)

After that you go to local immigration office with the e-mail copy. For your stay/multy entry visa completion and fingerprints. When you go to local immigration and officer submit your case, they will give you a barcode paper which is requiring payment. It is around 2,050,000 (for 1 year, if your visa 2 years may be more) After payment, you go back to immigration office for
fingerprint and picture.

When process done, you wiill receive an aproval from jakarta, it will says you can stay and or multy entry to indonesia.

After that, you need to submit your KTP within 14 days. (If your process done longer then 14 days, may be KTP office will require 100 000 penalty, but you can show them your e--mail confirmation date. Because all document will be contain first visa approval date.) This service is free and same with your wife/husband local KTP office. ((where registered her/his family and adress)

And if you wantto stay different location from your wife/husbands registered adress, you need to report your new adress. For this matter, before go to new location, you have to collect your local Surat Domisili with your wife/husband (booth need)
After move new location you can ask village Banjar for new surat domisili which will shown your new adress. Then you go to submit to local immigration office for your new adress. If not, may be will problem. This is also free, but if you use an agent or if you go to directly immigration, they may pop up some difficulties or agency will ask money. (1-1,5 million)

This is all your process.
 

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Hi Ismail Aydin. My post is regarding a conversion from Itas to Itap. Your response seems to reference getting the initial itas, which unfortunately doesn't answer my question.
 

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@Jamu usually you pay when they tell you to and it is after the home visit. I can't remember exactly when or how long when I did my KITAS. I do know for my KITAP, it was home visit and then about a week later after I had to go in to pay and have my photos taken.

Which local immigration office are you going through? You might want to stop by and explain you are waiting for the home visit, but haven't heard anything.
 

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@dafluff, regarding your itas to itap application, did you pay the fees prior to the home interview or after? The reason for asking is that after submitting my documents I was given a paper receipt to be presented at the bank for payment of the itap, merp and biometric fees, but was then told to wait first for the interview before paying - however, two weeks later after document submission, I am still waiting for the call to schedule the appointment. Not sure if I heard them correctly regarding payment sequence, and don't want to be the bottleneck myself for not having made payment yet...
It's been a while now, so I can't be 100% sure, but I think it was after the interview, when I went in to pick up stuff for KanWil.

Also 2 weeks is easily still within normal time frame for interview. In may case, they phoned me up maybe 10 minutes before showing up.
 

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The following is a report of the DIY conversion of a spouse sponsored Itas to Itap that I recently followed in Denpasar, Bali. I applied for conversion on the 3rd of December 2018, having collected my DIY Itas on the 8th of November, and eventually picked up my Kitap on 25th February, 2019, for a total elapsed time of 84 days, taking into account Christmas, New Year, and Bali’s Galungan and Kunigan holidays.

While processing my Itas at imigrasi, I collected the following forms for conversion of Itas to Itap, including the pink immigration folder (all free):

1. Pernyataan dan Jaminan Suami/Istri (Sponsor statement of responsibility)
2. Surat Permohonan Konversi (Request of conversion letter)
3. Perdim 24, 25, and 27
4. Surat Pernyataan Integrasi (Integration statement)
5. Curriculum Vitae (in which you write a short summary of your education, work history, hobbies and current visa status)

Imigrasi Visit 1. Submitted the above forms, two of which were signed over meterei, and produced the following documents (showed originals and provided three black and white photocopies of each):

1. KTP spouse. For Denpasar imigrasi, the KTP must have a Bali address and show your spouse’s status as ‘Kawin’, ie married
2. Kartu Keluarga (KK) spouse. Also needs to show spouse’s status as ‘Kawin’
3. My SKTT (you should have gotten this from your local Catatan Sipil after you got your Itas)
4. Passport, with photocopies of data page, Vitas page (as I did the e-Itas) and page with e-Itas entry stamp.
5. The electronic Itas letter that was emailed to me
6. Surat Domisili for myself, (and also for my wife, as our current home address is not the same as on her Bali KTP)
7. Marriage certificate (in our case Buku Nikah)
8. Letter from my embassy in Indonesia recognizing our marriage
9. Three 3x4cm passport photographs on red background

All my documents were accepted and I received a receipt / payment instruction. I was advised to wait for the imigrasi home interview before paying the relevant fees (Itap- Rp. 3.5 juta, 2 year MERP – Rp. 1.75 juta and biometric fee – Rp. 55k, for a total of Rp. 5.305 juta). After two weeks of waiting, I called to check on the status. I was then advised I could pay and wait for the imigrasi call to schedule the interview. Paid the next day at BCA and coincidentally that night at 10pm my wife received a text saying that the home interview would occur the next morning.

Two officers from the imigrasi intelligence division duly visited our home around 10am the next morning. They asked to see my wife’s original KTP and KK, as well as our Buku Nikah, and studied these documents carefully, along with my passport (they had my whole immigration file with them). We were given two forms to fill out, my wife signed both and I had to sign one. Had a chit chat about our backgrounds, e.g., where we got married, what are we doing in Bali etc, as well as more specific questions (can’t remember them all but if you’re legit it will be no problem). Was asked again (same as during my Itas interview) whether I was working in Bali. Felt this was a red flag and said no, which also happens to be the truth. The interview lasted about an hour or so. I was advised to return to imigrasi in two weeks for biometrics – with apologies for the delay due to Christmas, Galungan and New Year holidays.

Imigrasi Visit 2 – As advised, I returned in early January for photo, fingerprints and signature. Was asked a few ‘interview type’ questions in Bahasa Indonesia, e.g., my wife’s full name, where she is from, where we live now, whether she works etc. Was then told to return on in 10 days.

Imigrasi Visit 3 – Returned on 14th January and was asked to photocopy (2 copies plus I cheekily made an extra one for myself) the completed and imigrasi countersigned Perdim nos 24, 25 and 27, as well as the report of the home visit (quite interesting reading – apparently they interviewed our neighbours as well to ask about me!) and the recommendation memo by imigrasi staff to DitJenIm (formal and fact/law based, I was quite impressed by how official and serious this memo was). Returned the documents in a blue folder, bought from the photocopy place. A file was then assembled in the blue folder by the officer, which I was asked to take to the Kantor Wilayah, about 700 meters away from Denpasar Imigrasi. This was a quick and painless visit. The friendly officer on duty checked the file to ensure it was complete, and said it would be sent to Jakarta for approval, and to check back with imigrasi in a month regarding the status. Unlike the reports from others who have done this process, I was not given the option to send the file myself to Jakarta by courier.

Checked in via phone after one month and learned that the process was still with Jakarta. Btw, you can also check the status of your application online at any time at the following website, https://izintinggal.imigrasi.go.id/IT-online/manajemen_layanan.xhtml by logging in with your file and passport numbers. The only problem with this system is that there is no list of the approval steps so, while it’s rewarding to see the application status updated periodically, it is not clear what steps still remain. In any event, when you see ‘Pemindaian Dokumen Selesai’ you know you are finished, as the relevant approval has been sent by Jakarta. Upon seeing this status update online and checking with imigrasi by phone to confirm, I was advised to present myself three business days later to collect my Kitap and passport. Hooray!

Imigrasi Visit 4 - On 25 February, exactly 84 days after my application, I picked up my Kitap as well as my passport. My passport bore two stamps, one for the five year Itap, and the other for the two year Merp.

Like my Itas application, I found it very straightforward to process the Itas to Itap conversion on a DIY basis. The imigrasi staff in Denpasar were at all times friendly, helpful and professional. Based on my positive experience, I would highly encourage anyone applying for a spouse sponsored Itas or Itas to Itap conversion to consider just doing it yourself and avoid using a costly agent.
 

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