Quality of Healthcare and Physicians

I've got the expired alcoholic bit down, and I could probably rent a suit...

I bet chatgpt has decimated the industry though

IMHO, only in areas such as social sciences, humanity, history, etc. This generative language based AI such as ChatGPT, can provide a significant assistance.

If you look at many Indonesian officials, such as regents, mayors, governors, ministers, and members of parliament, you will notice that many of them hold master's degree in social sciences, political science, humanitarian studies, etc. However, it's widely known that some of these individuals do not attend lectures. complete coursework, or even attend the exam.

A generative language based AI like ChatGPT or getting help by a Ghostwriter cannot assist in fields where personal skills must be demonstrably proven, such as in science, engineering, mathematics, medicine, pharmacy or dentistry. It is the same way that ChatGPT cannot help people passing practical tests in a driving test, where personal skill is essential. In this case money might be more helpful than AI.

While there are concerns about the quality of physicians and pharmacists in Indonesia, as discussed in this thread, I believe that if they are practising in hospitals, they must possess some level of knowledge in their field, although if might be sub-standard or they are not intelligent enough, too lazy to update their skills, knowledge, to follow the new trend, invention in science, new method in their profession. I am yet to find a person dare to perform heart or eye surgery without proper training? There are robots but it still needs surgeon with skills to run and control them.

And who would be capable of designing and manufacturing a robot, aircraft, or jet fighter, nuclear reactor without the necessary knowledge and expertise?
 
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Eye surgery and LASIK is probably one of the more advanced (and better) developed areas in the medical world in RI.
Definitely agree with that. I just had a laser eye surgery for cataract a couple of week ago in Manado and I am satisfied beyond what I expected.
Even though I have no heath insurance nor I am a peserta BPJS I've found the cost quite cheap considering how it has improved my life.
The only minus was the music playlist during operation. I came in to stop being blind but I definitely wished I was deaf.
 
for cataract surgery under BPJS, this guy explained in detail the process and the result later on his vlog
 
Definitely agree with that. I just had a laser eye surgery for cataract a couple of week ago in Manado and I am satisfied beyond what I expected.
Even though I have no heath insurance nor I am a peserta BPJS I've found the cost quite cheap considering how it has improved my life.
The only minus was the music playlist during operation. I came in to stop being blind but I definitely wished I was deaf.
I am due a tuneup of my laser vision correction. When they did it years ago, they gave me mono vision so that I wouldn't need reading glasses. He told me that by the time I was 50 or so it would need at least one eye redone. Starting to need reading glasses so I guess it's time. Considering using Jakarta Eye Center as they did some work for me in the past and I was very happy with them. Anyone heard anything lately about them that would make me reconsider using them?
 
This video clip explains why many moderately wealthy Indonesians prefer seeking medical treatment in Malaysia. Treatment in Indonesia (particularly in Jakarta) tends to be more costly and takes longer.


Medical Treatment in Indonesia is More Expensive and Takes Longer


Going Viral Banner Inviting People to Seek Medical Treatment in Malaysia
The banner showing in Malaysian Embassy in Jakarta: Want to seek medical treatment : Why not in Malaysia? It is closer and more affordable?

These people also speak from their personal Experiences. Beside costly and takes longer, also because of misdiagnose


The Reason I chose to Seek Medical Treatment in Malaysia Rather Than Indonesia

She compares both the duration and cost of the procedure with similar ones, e.g. spinal surgery her aunt underwent in Jakarta. Here is the breakdown:

Cost: The combined expenses, including the operation, travel, accommodation, and meals for three people e.g herself, her mother, and brother, amount to only a quarter of the operation cost alone in Jakarta.

Duration: The procedure in Penang Malaysia took just 3 days, compared to 2 weeks in Jakarta.

Although it is unwise to depend solely on few people experience, a substantial number of others undergoing treatment in Malaysia report similar experience. Also, these individuals have little incentive to be dishonest, and social media has made it easier for everyday people to share their personal experiences.


My Mother Was a Victim of Fatal MISDIAGNOSIS.

His mother was first misdiagnosed with sinusitis, but it was later discovered to be a malignant tumor, cancer.

In the past, Indonesia helped educate Malaysians to become doctors, but now the situation is reversed. Few Malaysian students (if any) are interested in studying medicine in Indonesia.

This is the consequence of money influencing education. Nowadays, 'money route' accounting for 50% of Indonesian state university admissions. It’s disheartening to witness this.
 
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Hospital nurse should be forbidden to accept money or gifts from patients, there should be a large sign at the hospital that says "No Tipping". Don't go to a hospital (public or private) where tipping is a culture, unless you are genuinely happy to tip every single day of your stay. Don't expect heartfelt service if you don't give any tip, especially if you look rich. The feeling is terrible... that is, if you stand up for your principles. Everybody else tip, why don't you? Of course, not all hospitals have such culture.
 
This subject is one that just goes round and round, and never stops! The root of the problem is Corruption! The people in charge are not stupid. They know that this could be corrected. If a doctor can buy their degree, and become a practicing doctor without the proper training, people will be hurt, sometimes fatally! I'm sure all of the people in charge of this, leave the country for any serious medical needs.
Now the new International hospital is almost finished in Sanur. Does anyone really expect International quality service? If they do, they are in for a big surprise! If I am wrong, I will be the first to admit it, but that's to be seen.
Sadly, this all boils down to MONEY!! 🤷🏼‍♂️
 

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