How Indonesian resort island Bali became a refuge for Ukrainians and Russians

[jstar]

Owner of the Lamborghini gets a fine of only IDR 500k?

Yep.

UULLAJ Pasal 288:

Setiap orang yang mengemudikan Kendaraan Bermotor di Jalan yang tidak dilengkapi dengan Surat Tanda Nomor Kendaraan Bermotor atau Surat Tanda Coba Kendaraan Bermotor yang ditetapkan oleh Kepolisian Negara Republik Indonesia sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 106 ayat (5) huruf a dipidana dengan pidana kurungan paling lama 2 (dua) bulan atau denda paling banyak Rp500.000,00 (lima ratus ribu rupiah).

Everyone who drives a Motor Vehicle on the Road that is not equipped with a Motor Vehicle Number Certificate or a Motor Vehicle Trial Certificate determined by the Indonesian National Police as referred to in Article 106 paragraph (5) letter a is punished with a maximum imprisonment of 2 (two) months or a maximum fine of IDR 500,000.00 (five hundred thousand rupiah).

 

[snpark]

Owner of the Lamborghini gets a fine of only IDR 500k?

Bali police track down and confiscate white Lamborghini with ‘DOMOGATSKY’ license plate | Coconuts

Amid a crackdown on fake license plates in Bali lately, police say they have tracked down the most conspicuous of all: a white Lamborghini with a license plate that says, “DOMOGATSKY”.

coconuts.co

I thought no one had claimed ownership ? It was impounded?

 

[snpark]

Up until now, no one has come forward and brought proof of ownership of the Lamborghini.”

Stefanus said that once the Lambo owner shows up and presents the appropriate documents, they would be penalized for the customized license plate. Under Indonesia’s traffic law, using an unofficial license plate is an offense punishable by up to two months in prison or a fine of IDR500K (US$32.68).

 

[Balifrog]

Owner of the Lamborghini gets a fine of only IDR 500k?

Bali police track down and confiscate white Lamborghini with ‘DOMOGATSKY’ license plate | Coconuts

Amid a crackdown on fake license plates in Bali lately, police say they have tracked down the most conspicuous of all: a white Lamborghini with a license plate that says, “DOMOGATSKY”.

coconuts.co

Aine is same for any make, brand or model of car. Logic.

A fine is same for any brand or model of car. Logic.
Are you jealous ?

 

[snpark]

The fine is for the number plate violation

The interesting bit is no one come forward with proof of ownership.

Maybe imported illegally? No tax paid? Etc etc

 

[jstar]

A fine is same for any brand or model of car. Logic.

Not everywhere….

Finland's "progressive punishment" when it comes to speeding tickets

Did you know getting a speeding ticket in Finland can either be very expensive or very cheap?

www.euronews.com

Traffic fines based on wealth? Europe tries it

European countries are increasingly pegging speeding fines to income as a way to punish wealthy scofflaws who would otherwise ignore tickets.

www.nbcnews.com

Now of course based on wealth would be completely impossible here. See the cases with government officials with huge amounts of cash.

But in a country like this a percentage of the original value of the car, added to the fine, might make sense. At least then it hurts a bit.

So in case of 0.5%: if you can afford a 1 billion rupiah car, you would get an additional $350 amount on the fine. With a Lambo, Rolls or Ferrari count on $5,000. And with a regular Avanza or so, it would be $100.

 

[ChrisTex]

What a claim even adding various key points.
Studied history ? Oh Well, there are a lot of people study social science, finishing their studies they ended up stacking item on the shelves of the supermarket chains. There are people who are studying economy, finance, finishing their studies they become benefit scroungers, keep losing money in the stock market, fall into the Ponzi pyramid scheme. Many well known Computer coders, programmers do not even study computer science.

"Are you a well known historian have you done the research by your own using a proven research methodology to make such a strong claim? Please let us know your publications in well known journal in History ?? Not a low quality chit chat from the people who have the same political views with yours. Any link ??? "

The thread is initially about refuge and now a few people try to bring their political views.

Just to make it clear I never say that those Russians in Bali are bad or good people. Good/Bad people are everywhere. What about other nationalities getting caught smuggling drugs to Bali Indonesia? I disagree with sweeping generalisation of Russians people, let alone comparing them with Nazi. The people who single out other people just because of their nationalities, ethnicities are racists.

Yes studied history as in my degree from univ. and still do casually. You don't need to be a well known historian or publish journals/articles to not repeat history or seeing it repeated. Here is one of my professors and someone I chatted with. Oh and I don't know his political views. or the people I have talked with. I frankly don't care as European politics is a different fish all together. Also talking to witnesses is a proven research method.

Oh and thanks for the laugh in your last paragraph. You have clearly not been reading the posts as the only thing I said about the Russians in Bali are they aren't your normal Russian ie they have money and probably have connections. What kind of connections is a different topic and that would probably be more generalizing. In terms of Russians and Nazi, I just said they are basically one in the same during the Soviet era and aren't as great as you are making them out to be.


Oh and you would be in the gulags with the rest of us.

 

[Samoerai]

A fine is same for any brand or model of car. Logic.
Are you jealous ?

Huh? No, I am just suprised that the fine for a serious violation is only 500k. If I would be jealous I would say: Owners of such cars, have small "burung".

 

[snpark]

Speeding fines are on the driver and means tested on income etc

The fine for non display of correct number plate is fixed fine

 

[Helpful Herbert]

Everyone who drives a Motor Vehicle on the Road that is not equipped with a Motor Vehicle Number Certificate or a Motor Vehicle Trial Certificate determined by the Indonesian National Police as referred to in Article 106 paragraph (5) letter a is punished with a maximum imprisonment of 2 (two) months or a maximum fine of IDR 500,000.00 (five hundred thousand rupiah).

I wonder how many people would choose 2 months in jail over paying 500,000Rp?

 

[fastpitch17]

Owner of the Lamborghini gets a fine of only IDR 500k?

Bali police track down and confiscate white Lamborghini with ‘DOMOGATSKY’ license plate | Coconuts

Amid a crackdown on fake license plates in Bali lately, police say they have tracked down the most conspicuous of all: a white Lamborghini with a license plate that says, “DOMOGATSKY”.

coconuts.co

If the car was even registered to begin with. Many have not been. If it has been then in all likelihood, they already know the registered owner. If not registered then the government now has another auction item. Well, after a bunch of joy riding.

 

[jstar]

I wonder how many people would choose 2 months in jail over paying 500,000Rp?

A tiny bit related, this article was published a couple of years ago…

Director General: Indonesian People Choose to be Imprisoned Instead of Paying Taxes!​

Director General of Taxes Suryo Utomo revealed that through changes in the revision of the KUP Law, the government proposed to abolish the (prison confinement) substitutions.

An example is the imprisonment penalty as a substitute for a fine if the convict does not pay.

Suryo said, there were 80.6% of tax-paying convicts who decided to serve a subsidiary sentence, so that state income losses would not have to be paid back after the verdict was read.

In the current KUP Law, Suryo said, there are provisions in the Criminal Code where the penalty of subsidiary fines with very light imprisonment.

Therefore, through the fifth amendment to Law No. 6 of 1983 concerning KUP, the government proposes that taxpayer convicts can no longer choose for jail time so it must be paid by the convict.

 

[jstar]

If the car was even registered to begin with

Yeah but this car is so rare and expensive, it is very very easy to find out who bought it. And if it’s not bought here but parallel import it can also be traced easily. Unless someone at customs made the file disappear of course, but even then they can contact Lamborghini for the info.

 

[snpark]

Even I can tell you the name of the owner. But he hasn't provided proof of ownership yet. That's the crux

 

[snpark]

I'd spend a day in jail if I could hobnob with all the billionaires there and tout my CV and contacts and tell them hey I'm out tomorrow, anything you need me to do for you guys? Except kill someone. Lol

 

[snpark]

He's done a runner to Moscow cebang UAE lol

Domogatsky has fled to the UAE, abandoning white Lamborghini in Bali: Police | Coconuts

Less than a week after announcing that they have tracked down a white Lamborghini with the infamous "DOMOGATSKY" license plate that went viral on social media, Bali Police announced that the car's de facto owner, a Russian national, has fled to the United Arab Emirates.

coconuts.co

 

[fastpitch17]

He's done a runner to Moscow cebang UAE lol

Domogatsky has fled to the UAE, abandoning white Lamborghini in Bali: Police | Coconuts

Less than a week after announcing that they have tracked down a white Lamborghini with the infamous "DOMOGATSKY" license plate that went viral on social media, Bali Police announced that the car's de facto owner, a Russian national, has fled to the United Arab Emirates.

coconuts.co

So, probably not just the car he was worried about.

 

[Wisnu]

Not only the lambo,

Reflection Deep Sky Villas in Kintamani, Indonesia by Sergey Domogatsky

I was traveling by car in Bali on October 2020, and I decided to stop in Kintamani. I was impressed by the view there. It was incredible. We tried to book a nice hotel or villa with a beautiful view. However, we could not find anything…I realized that there is not a single good hotel in...

amazingarchitecture.com

 

[R Cameron]

Coconuts is reporting the Lambo is registered to PT Eco Sinergi Tekhnologi in Bandung: https://coconuts.co/bali/news/domog...-abandoning-white-lamborghini-in-bali-police/

It appears to be a multi level marketing company, so that already makes their morals suspect in my view.

 

[jstar]

Reflection Deep Sky Villas in Kintamani, Indonesia by Sergey Domogatsky

I was traveling by car in Bali on October 2020, and I decided to stop in Kintamani. I was impressed by the view there. It was incredible. We tried to book a nice hotel or villa with a beautiful view. However, we could not find anything…I realized that there is not a single good hotel in...

amazingarchitecture.com

Well, he’s quite proficient in Lumion. There’s a young designer in the F-I-L who can also make the most beautiful virtual interiors. And it looks very real.

This is in Sundanese:

Sergey Domogatskii: jalur ka diri

su.birmiss.com