Can't stand Trump but unlike most liberals I don't paint conservative presidents with a wide brush. Trump as usual engaged in verbal diarrhea about the pandemic but in the end helped secure an incredible supply of free vaccinations. One of his last acts as president was commendable.With the adjustments made to the restrictions, it seems it is basically almost back to normal. This crap about the number of possitives going down is criminal. The experts at the Universities are saying that there was suddenly less testing being done. Some are now accusing the gov of intentionally reducing the amount if testing just so they could have lower numbers. It looks like this government is following trump's lead where he may not got away with a lot of how he wanted covid handled and get numbers changed, Indonesia doesn't seem to have anyone who can stop what is happening. All I can envision is the deaths taking a sharp upturn and most of them coming out of the traditional markets and factories. There sure looks like there is being more done to kill people than to save them.
Trump as usual engaged in verbal diarrhea about the pandemic but in the end helped secure an incredible supply of free vaccinations.
Even Trump's worst critics would agree that his administration understood the vaccine was the only way out and acted accordingly. Do you have friends in the U.S.? I grew up there and my Facebook feed was flooded with posts of my friends getting fully vaccinated. My friends here in Indonesia followed suit. Sadly after boasting about their first vaccine, no follow up.Honest question, did he? My limited understanding is that Operation Warp Speed was essentially a large preorder, and Pfizer/BionTech, which makes up more than half of US vaccinations, didn't participate at all. I don't think any past or prospective US President would have done any less, so it's a low bar to say "he did the minimum, but at least it wasn't nothing".
As for the rollout when they were finally approved, Trump was solely consumed with trying to overturn the election. I don't recall Trump every making a strong statement in support of vaccinations between his election loss and last day in office, did he? Particularly to a media his followers would be likely to see it? When the Biden administration took the reins they discovered there was practically zero planning for vaccine distribution and rollout.
In his last weeks in office he and Melania got the vaccine in secret, and then wouldn't admit to it until March.
What exactly did he do with the vaccines that was commendable? I would honestly like to know, because as someone who despises 99% of his character and actions, I still like to stay aware of the other 1%.
You're out of your depth in this discussion. Nothing you said makes any sense. I strongly advise taking a look at the link I provided, specifically the other nations with lower GDP than Indonesia. A lot of countries did better than Indonesia. Stop settling for less.US, the richest country in the world, did better than Indonesia? Something to be proud of
I don't remember hearing about him promoting vaccines "bigly", either. If he went after the anti-vaxxers on his preferred media outlets the same way he went after every mainstream journalist he encountered (like a pitbull after a porkchop), we would have had a bit less vaccine hesitancy among his voters.Honest question, did he? My limited understanding is that Operation Warp Speed was essentially a large preorder, and Pfizer/BionTech, which makes up more than half of US vaccinations, didn't participate at all. I don't think any past or prospective US President would have done any less, so it's a low bar to say "he did the minimum, but at least it wasn't nothing".
As for the rollout when they were finally approved, Trump was solely consumed with trying to overturn the election. I don't recall Trump every making a strong statement in support of vaccinations between his election loss and last day in office, did he? Particularly to a media his followers would be likely to see it? When the Biden administration took the reins they discovered there was practically zero planning for vaccine distribution and rollout.
In his last weeks in office he and Melania got the vaccine in secret, and then wouldn't admit to it until March.
What exactly did he do with the vaccines that was commendable? I would honestly like to know, because as someone who despises 99% of his character and actions, I still like to stay aware of the other 1%.
As if us foreigners have any say in how this country is runStop settling for less
Even Trump's worst critics would agree that his administration understood the vaccine was the only way out and acted accordingly. Do you have friends in the U.S.? I grew up there and my Facebook feed was flooded with posts of my friends getting fully vaccinated. My friends here in Indonesia followed suit. Sadly after boasting about their first vaccine, no follow up.
Except I'm an Indonesian citizen and was born here.As if us foreigners have any say in how this country is run
I think this liberal publication can explain it better than I can:Yes, the US clearly did better with vaccines than many other countries. But you asserted that Trump's vaccine effort was "commendable" and I'm asking what he actually did with regard to vaccines, whether specific actions or broad tone and leadership, that was commendable?
From Wikipedia, "Pfizer joined the Warp Speed program in July 2020, and signed a $1.95 billion contract to be paid out when the vaccine would be FDA approved, and included an initial order of 100 million vaccines."Pfizer/BionTech, which makes up more than half of US vaccinations, didn't participate at all.
Okay, I read the whole article, forgive my obtuseness; can you please point me to which action of President Trump regarding vaccines was "commendable"? Any single action that exemplifies bravery, skill, intelligence, persistence, wisdom, or any other commendable virtue.I think this liberal publication can explain it better than I can:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/03/11/biden-vaccine-victories-trump-foundation/
Dude let it go. I just presented you with reporting done by The Washington Post, a liberal news source often grouped with Huff Post, BBC, and freakin' Buzzfeed in their politics, and even they had to concede Trump deserves some credit. You know that CNN leans more to the right than the Post, right?Okay, I read the whole article, forgive my obtuseness; can you please point me to which action of President Trump regarding vaccines was "commendable"? Any single action that exemplifies bravery, skill, intelligence, persistence, wisdom, or any other commendable virtue.
If you simply mean, "he didn't utterly sabotage the whole process" then please do say so.
If you simply mean, "the US federal government did a good job" then please do say so.
It's all US politics. We are the world...And there we go, Libs, Dems, Rep, Orange man...blablabla....
Maybe open a thread "US Politics" ?