4/11, 25/11 and 2/12 anti-Ahok demonstrations

[Daniel50]

This whole thing is hard to believe. It is so he won't become governor and others can get back to stealing even more money. This alone is sad enough and then to add to it there are people who actually believe that a non-Muslim should not lead them. Even the fact someone can be charged for blasphemy is crazy. Meanwhile someone else can post a video offering a bounty to kill Ahok and nothing is done. Someone altered the video and nothing is done. If he is disqualified, goes to jail or loses because of swinging some Muslim votes then it is a real step back for Indonesia. It is hard to see this country progressing. I imagine if most people only new the amounts of dirty money being shifted around/ stolen, through corruption, it would be mind boggling.

 

[Euc-]

http://megapolitan.kompas.com/read/...tus.tersangka.tak.gugurkan.ahok.sebagai.cagub

Indeed right, but who knows, I wouldn't be surprised if it somehow prevented him from running. Weirder things have happened here.

 

[dafluff]

Would being named a suspect in a criminal case make him ineligible to run for governor?

No, he can still run up to the point he is found guilty and no further appeals are possible.

 

[Anglian]

This whole thing is hard to believe. It is so he won't become governor and others can get back to stealing even more money. This alone is sad enough and then to add to it there are people who actually believe that a non-Muslim should not lead them. Even the fact someone can be charged for blasphemy is crazy. Meanwhile someone else can post a video offering a bounty to kill Ahok and nothing is done. Someone altered the video and nothing is done. If he is disqualified, goes to jail or loses because of swinging some Muslim votes then it is a real step back for Indonesia. It is hard to see this country progressing. I imagine if most people only new the amounts of dirty money being shifted around/ stolen, through corruption, it would be mind boggling.

I was thinking of posting in a similar vein but you beat me too it, it is mind boggling a man who is a good administrator, anti corruption, should be put through the hoop like this, does not bode well for indonesia, also the amount of corrupt money that you mention is astounding, bit sad really as when I give my odd job man 100,000rp extra he's over the moon. I wonder if the average Indonesian realises how much corruption there really is

 

[Anglian]

I passed a police station this morning and it has a picture of a cartoon cop to indicate it's a police post, as my daughter mentioned, the cartoon about sums the police up

 

[jstar]

I was thinking of posting in a similar vein but you beat me too it, it is mind boggling a man who is a good administrator, anti corruption, should be put through the hoop like this

It looks more and more they need a political scapegoat. They obviously found a stick to hit the dog. It's a shame for Ahok, and Jokowi really likes him, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is some bartering going on right now: Agus (son of SBY) for governor of Jakarta, and they (the SBY clan) will let Jokowi be for the next 6 years. And then...

Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

[Exile]

After reading this news http://news.detik.com/berita/334681...tusional?_ga=1.136401141.433366304.1475658488 I cant help to think that making Ahok as a suspect could just be a ploy from Jokowi to stop the 25th Nov demonstration. MUI, FPI and the gangs made a threat of an even bigger demonstration.
Who knows, during the trial Ahok will be acquitted. He sounds a bit (too) happy to be made a suspect. There might be a new twist down the line.

 

[centurion]

Ahok is getting so much free time in media and social media.
This pressure on Ahok can backfire to his opponents- he is becoming a victim at at the end it will be referendum about Jokowi which makes Ahok`s chances for election higher .
Agus and Anies are barely noticed in media(less than 15%).
On twitter #KamiAhok has the 3rd trending in the world and #Penjarkanahok has 2 times less tweets.
Interesting to follow the socialmedia buzz on http://politicawave.com/jakarta

 

[nd_eric_77]

Any solid info on whether people still plan a demo on 25 Nov?

 

[centurion]

Who gives a damn for 50-100.000 protesters anyway, the city has 7 million voters.

 

[dafluff]

MUI made a blunder today when they issued a statement that Ahok should withdraw from the election (link). On social media this is starting to get widely repudiated, as it is seen as proof that MUI was from the beginning was more concerned about the elections than religion (obviously). Empirically, even muslims (judging by their names) are outraged by this.

 

[dafluff]

I was thinking of posting in a similar vein but you beat me too it, it is mind boggling a man who is a good administrator, anti corruption, should be put through the hoop like this

The greatest "sin" in Indonesia is trying to fight corruption.

 

[fastpitch17]

It looks more and more they need a political scapegoat. They obviously found a stick to hit the dog. It's a shame for Ahok, and Jokowi really likes him, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is some bartering going on right now: Agus (son of SBY) for governor of Jakarta, and they (the SBY clan) will let Jokowi be for the next 6 years. And then...

Hopefully I'm wrong.

They might want to do some bartering but the part about leaving Jokowi alone would never be trusted since they seem to be the culprits behind all the problems to begin with. Anies you have someone somewhat qualified to steer the city along with his running mate. Agus has nothing would be nothing but a puppet to his father and his party. All Agus has offered so far was Ahok's policies but he would make them better. The Dems with SBY and Agus are neck deep in election violations already and this number is just going to climb. A lot of money is being spent be it for buying votes or financing riots in religions name. No, I think SBY would be one of the last people Jokowi trust along with his mentor, Megawati.

 

[fastpitch17]

MUI made a blunder today when they issued a statement that Ahok should withdraw from the election (link). On social media this is starting to get widely repudiated, as it is seen as proof that MUI was from the beginning was more concerned about the elections than religion (obviously). Empirically, even muslims (judging by their names) are outraged by this.

Has there really been any doubt this has all been politically motivated and financed. Back room deals are being made and a lot of it could concern how much say the religious organizations will have in future government. SBY never stood up to the hardliners. Some words but never any actions. They are his hired political assassins right now.

 

[fastpitch17]

Any solid info on whether people still plan a demo on 25 Nov?

I think there may still be plans in place now calling for his conviction and some for the ouster of Jokowi.

 

[dafluff]

Has there really been any doubt this has all been politically motivated and financed.

Not for a lot of people, but for the average Indonesian muslim, it is very hard to go against MUI. Unless of course MUI blunders into the abjectly partisan, which they now have.

 

[Anglian]

Today on TV it seems to be all about Ahok and his colleagues, I'm wondering if the plan to stitch Ahok up is falling apart with all this publicity he is getting,

 

[fastpitch17]

Today on TV it seems to be all about Ahok and his colleagues, I'm wondering if the plan to stitch Ahok up is falling apart with all this publicity he is getting,

That could very well happen.

 

[jstar]

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Talking about a farce:

There is an expert witness on language. Her name is Neno Warisman. I will put the translation of the Wikipedia page underneath:

Neno Warisman
Birth name Titi Widoretno Warisman
Born June 21, 1964 (age 52)
Employment: singer, actress
Years active: 1977 - present
Spouse: Widiono Doni Wiratmoko

Titi Widoretno Warisman, commonly called Neno Warisman (born in Banyuwangi, East Java, June 21, 1964, age 52 years) used to be a singer and movie star in the 1980s. Now, Neno is active socially and in the area of education, especially on parenting, and on the roles of father- and motherhood.

Career

Since childhood Neno has shown her fondness for poetry and declamation. In 1978, she was selected as the winner to read poetry in Jakarta. Neno continued studying at the Faculty of French Literature, University of Indonesia.

Neno was famous as a singer in the '80s. She sang many famous songs to date, such as the song "Matahariku", as well as her duet with Fariz RM, '' Nada kasih" and also the religious song" A Ba Ta Tsa ".

As an actress, Neno is known for her acting as Sayekti in the TVRI movie "Sayekti and Hanafi" which was directed by Irwinsyah. In addition, Neno also played in the film "Semua sayang kamu" (1989) and was nominated for Best Actress in the Indonesian Film Festival of 1989. In 2005, Neno played in the film from Garin Nugroho, called "Rindu kami padamu" (2005). This film won the award for best film at Osian's 7th Cinefan Asian Festival in New Delhi, India, which took place 16 to 24 July, 2005.

In 1991, Neno decided to wear the hijab and spend more time on the social issues in the world and education, and actively assist the socialization program of Early Childhood Education (ECD) of the Ministry of National Education. She was frequently invited to speak at seminars for mothers. She speaks particularly about right to parenting, public education and health.

On her 40th birthday at June 21, 2004, Syaamil Neno published a book titled "Let me narrate". In 2006, with the same publisher, Neno released a book entitled "The Sun Shines For Maghfi Odi". The first book of the trilogy "family opera" is an innerly sincere and very deep reflection from Neno Warisman about the spiritual miracles she experienced and witnessed from her children who were adorable, smart, active and pious.

In June 2008 she began a campaign "PMM", safe eating patterns.

Neno is married to Ahmad Widiono Doni Wiratmoko and has 3 children; Zaka, Maghfira, and Ramadhani.

 

[jstar]

Ahok has bad luck with his witnesses btw. I just heard Ahmad Dhani say that another one passed away last week.