Kitap Renewal Time - Married 10 years + (is sponsor needed - Yes / No )

[Balilongtime]

Hi Guys, I am getting close to Kitap Renewal Time ......, I have a Big Question ....,

With Kitap Renewal ..,


IIRC, Some time back .., I read a Rule/ Law was 'changed' regarding your Kitap sponsor (ie; my wife - in my case) - and whether or not they are still actually required - as a Sponsor for Kitap Renewal ?


Is it true ???

.., that if you are a KITAP Holder seeking KITAP RENEWAL - "and you have already been married for a period of 10 years or more" ..., then you no longer require your Indonesian spouse (ie; with KTP) to be your sponsor ?

(ie; a change was made IIRC that states - if you are a Kitap Holder , and have also been married for a period 10 years or more to that Kitap Sponsor - then you no longer need a sponsor to renew you kitap) ?



I read a while back IIRC ..., that the law was changed to accommodate those Kitap holders (who had been married 10 years or more)

...., to be able to renew their KITAP Visas in case they were faced with Divorce, or the death of a Spouse.
I also read the law change was designed in mind - to help keep families together ?



Can someone please clarify and confirm if this is/ or is not the case ?

Cheers

 

[dafluff]

You still need to be sponsored. In case you are still married the sponsor is your wife.

In case of divorce, and you have had the KITAP for over 10 years, you can be sponsored by any other WNI and keep the KITAP.

 

[Balilongtime]

In case of divorce, and you have had the KITAP for over 10 years, you can be sponsored by any other WNI and keep the KITAP.

..., Hi dafluff, are you sure it is > you have to have the Kitap for 10 years ..., and not .., be married for 10 years .., as I remembered reading about ?

I am just asking again because ...,

I remember there being quite a bit of media coverage at the time I read of 'what I thought' - were changes to the law ?

.., heres some stuff I found with a google search - I am still confused.


Link (see section - how long does Kitap last) ; http://indonesiaexpat.biz/other/info-for-expats/the-phenomenon-of-the-kitap/
Link (see kitap section of this article) ; http://emerhub.com/indonesia/kitas-sponsored-by-indonesian-spouse/
Link (see confusing post here with apparent law quote ?) ; https://forum.expatindo.org/threads/divorce-kitap-and-right-to-work.1464/



.., at that time, as a Kitap holder .., Upon reading the media coverage .., I had mentally marked my 10th wedding anniversary date 'in my head' - as the date of achieving true residency stability 'visa wise'

- because the articles of the time I were saying, "I couldn't lose my visa if I was were already married for more than 10 years (ie; unless I broke the law, or vacated to country for too long)
.., and I don't recall there being any mention of needing a 'replacement' sponsor to a divorced or deceased wife ?

 

[Bad_azz]

http://www.hukumonline.com/pusatdata/download/lt518a1a6cb1c14/node/lt518a19697ab23

 

[dafluff]

..., Hi dafluff, are you sure it is > you have to have the Kitap for 10 years ..., and not .., be married for 10 years .., as I remembered reading about ?

You are correct. The requirement is for the marriage to be at least 10 years old.

From Peraturan Pemerintah No.31 Tahun 2013:

Pasal 162
(1) Untuk perkawinan campuran yang telah berusia 10 (sepuluh) tahun atau lebih, Izin Tinggal Tetap Orang
Asing yang diperoleh karena perkawinan yang sah tetap berlaku walaupun perkawinannya telah berakhir
karena perceraian dan/atau atas putusan pengadilan.
(2) Pemegang Izin Tinggal Tetap sebagaimana dimaksud pada ayat (1) harus memiliki Penjamin
berkewarganegaraan Indonesia.

(1) For mixed marriages of 10 years or more, spousal ITAP stays valid even though the marriage ended in divorce and/or court ruling.
(2) ITAP holder as in (1) above must have a WNI sponsor.

 

[Bad_azz]

Has someone deleted some of my posts?

 

[dafluff]

Has someone deleted some of my posts?

not that I can see...

 

[Bad_azz]

ok- maybe I I am in the wrong thread - haha. There is a similar thread, doesn't take much to confuse me

 

[Balilongtime]

Thank you kindly for the advice guys