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rabbit_39

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Just not caring because they want to do something and no one should interfere? I just don't understand them. Where is the faiure coming from?
I see this in the middle to upper class as well. At supermarkets (Lotte, Hero, Ranch market) everyone just pushes to the front with no sense of distancing. Even to the point that they crowd the isle that's next to the cashiers so you can't cross without tapping someone on the shoulder or say "permisi". :(
 

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People are tired of social distancing. They made it ok this far, so perhaps the worst has passed. Most Indonesians are fatalists anyway, if it’s your time to go nothing can change it.

I hate to say that people won’t learn until we get hit by a second wave of infection.
 

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They will find someone to blame too by saying they should have been told, they didn't know, the information wasn't clear, the government didn't do enough, etc...
 

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What is it that makes people here mass together like that. Be it a ferry or pasar. A lack of being educated on the risk? An attitude that it won't infect them? Just not caring because they want to do something and no one should interfere? I just don't understand them. Where is the faiure coming from?
It is in the best interests of the religious leaders of the country (and also political leaders) to keep education levels low. If people really understood what was going on there would be a revolution. It's like under the Dutch, after 1901 they started to educate tens of thousands of Indonesians in Holland, the result was that they realised what colonialism really was and these newly educated Indonesians provided the momentum to independence.
 

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It is in the best interests of the religious leaders of the country (and also political leaders) to keep education levels low. If people really understood what was going on there would be a revolution. It's like under the Dutch, after 1901 they started to educate tens of thousands of Indonesians in Holland, the result was that they realised what colonialism really was and these newly educated Indonesians provided the momentum to independence.
On this, I totally agree. I am not a conspiracy theorist but it looks like there is a secret agenda to keep the masses down, uneducated and religiously indoctrinated, otherwise, you cannot run the show. Also, trendy authoritarianism in Indonesia would require dumber citizens.

There are excellent opportunities for the elites, though: there are good high schools in Indonesia, but universities for them are later in Malaysia, Singapore, US, Europe. Only the elites and upper-middle class have to have access to education, so the prols can stay on the bottom without complaining. Public schools, on average, are literally producing dumb kids, and they do not even understand how much they know about nothing.

Somebody could compare that to the USA, but it is simply not true. In the US 10-20% of the population are running the remaining 80-90%, while in Indonesia 0,1% is running the 99,9%, without any chance for social mobility for the poor but capable to climb up the social ladder.
 

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Selamat Lebaran ! The masjid was exceptionally quiet here yesterday and very few people did the mampir sikling. Sepi sekali. Peaceful and relaxing!
 

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secret agenda to keep the masses down, uneducated and religiously indoctrinated,
It's impossible to drag people from a feudal style stone age into 'modern society'. Even when you think your making an impact you will soon be rudely shocked. It's going to take generations to change attitudes and behaviours.
 

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