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An Australian woman catches a female Balinese thief taking her money and lets her keep some of it. I'm not sure if I'd have been so generous.

 
Reminds me of the Dutch journalist who was stopped by police at Leo Square in Bali and instantly fined for a traffic violation...the officer then invited the guy to join him drinking beer he bought with the fine. The journalist filmed the whole event and, after returning to the Netherlands and publishing, it went viral.

I believe the cop was promoted...the Belanda never returned to Bali....:biggrin1:
 
A Balinese thief ??? …. unheard of, there must be some mistake, she must've been Javanese, the Balinese are all such beautiful smiling people & I refuse to have my concept of reality shattered.
 
Someone should be carefully talking when it comes to SARA issue
 
Care to elaborate because I have no clue what you are talking about... am I alone?

SARA issues, anything that touches on ethnicity, religion, minorities etc.

I think it was in response to the Javanese vs Balinese statement.
 
SARA issues, anything that touches on ethnicity, religion, minorities etc.

I think it was in response to the Javanese vs Balinese statement.
Here's the thing that irks me about Indonesia. The subject of ethnicity, religion, and race (known by the Indonesian acronym SARA) is taboo, and supposedly not to be discussed EVER. The problem is that finding a solution --or at least a better understanding-- is not possible without a frank and uncomfortable discussion.

It is a widespread saying in Bali that the island is free of crime, if not for outsiders. That is blatantly racist, yet Balinese seem to get away with saying it all these years.
 
In my short-time here, I've found no shortage of people happy to bring up ethnicity and (especially) religion in general conversation. Initially, I was a bit fed up of being asked what religion I belonged to.

As for the Balinese comment, not unusual to hear one ethnicity pass negative and stereotypical comments about another.
 
I'm not talking about SARA in general of Indonesia Raya, or referring to taboo and never to talk about about.
I'm talking specifically about this thread, when someone is making (I assume) a joke which referring to an unfavourable behaviour towards a certain ethnic.
I agree we should be able to discuss about it when problem occurs, but here's to understand that this is Indonesia when words can actually kill a human. It is a sensitive issue.
 
Words do matter but at the end of the day, they're not lethal. It's the actions of irrational/foolish people that kill.

Do guns, knives, axes etc kill people? No they don't. It's the person wielding them or pulling the trigger that's kills.
 
I'm not talking about SARA in general of Indonesia Raya, or referring to taboo and never to talk about about.
I'm talking specifically about this thread, when someone is making (I assume) a joke which referring to an unfavourable behaviour towards a certain ethnic.
I agree we should be able to discuss about it when problem occurs, but here's to understand that this is Indonesia when words can actually kill a human. It is a sensitive issue.

Correct me if I'm wrong but maybe there is a misunderstanding.

I understood Macvert's comment as sarcasm in the sense that he was making fun of the widespread belief that the only crimes committed in Bali are from Javanese and not Balinese.

I don't believe that Macvert shares the same views.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but maybe there is a misunderstanding.

I understood Macvert's comment as sarcasm in the sense that he was making fun of the widespread belief that the only crimes committed in Bali are from Javanese and not Balinese.

I don't believe that Macvert shares the same views.

That would be correct El G, I was mainly poking fun at western tourists who tell us how much they know from how ever many 2 week stints they've done in Bali over the years & how they still believe the rubbish they are fed.

I think the best one I've heard was after the trouble at Kerobokan prison between two rival gangs (aherm..... I mean employment agencies … or is it political parties?) in Bali where a few died.

I was talking to the owner of a local carwash who spoke reasonable English & seemed like a decent enough guy when I asked him for his take on the recent conflict at the prison. I was surprised by his straight faced reply that it had been caused by Javanese who had infiltrated the gangs specifically to cause trouble between them.....
 
Outside agitators, troublemakers from the next cave down, are a convenient focus of blame regardless of the locality or the underlying endemic source of a conflict.
 

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