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[Samoerai]

We have talked about (the lack of unsweetened) yoghurt before.

Now if you don’t want to make it yourself and you like the rather thick sour version, this might be the one for jou.

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Yup, this one I usually buy. But sometimes out of stock, then I buy "Yummie Yoghurt (Skim Plain)".

 

[atlantis]

We have talked about (the lack of unsweetened) yoghurt before.

Now if you don’t want to make it yourself and you like the rather thick sour version, this might be the one for jou.

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The one in your pictures is sweetened @jstar. The no added sugar version of Biokul is the Set Yogurt, not the original plain. They look very similar at the difference of the mention "set yogurt" and "no added sugar".

Greenfields has a no added sugar too both in 500ml and 1L (the latter may be difficult to get in supermarket because it is usually sold to the Food Service segment instead of the Modern Trade one).

 

[Samoerai]

The one in your pictures is sweetened @jstar. The no added sugar version of Biokul is the Set Yogurt, not the original plain. They look very similar at the difference of the mention "set yogurt" and "no added sugar".

Greenfields has a no added sugar too both in 500ml and 1L (the latter may be difficult to get in supermarket because it is usually sold to the Food Service segment instead of the Modern Trade one).

Hmmm, it would be surprised if this one has added sugar. Because it is very asemmmm. But I will check the label, nanti.

 

[atlantis]

Hmmm, it wpuld surprise me if this one has added sugar. Because it is very asemmmm. But I will check the label, nanti.

6g of added sugar per sajian/serving (80ml) from the technical sheets I have.
It is sold as a sweetened yogurt by Biokul (and sugar is listed in the ingredients list) at the difference of the set one which has a clear "no added sugar" label and no sugar listed in the list of ingredients.

Legally speaking if the sugar contained in a yogurt comes only from lactose (therefore not added) it is not required to list it in the list of ingredients.

Alternatively the Biokul greek yogurt plain in pail of 473g is also a no added sugar (only 4g of lactose sugar / 100g of product). If you consider the plain one asem, be ready to revise your mind after tasting this one.

 

[Bad_azz]

I know I have mentioned that I make lots of things myself- but yoghurt is certainly one of the things I do make, I can make a litre for about 20,000 IDR, so it makes sense to me to do that when compared to shop prices. Anyone can make yoghurt- get an inexpensive machine & throw the ingredients in & let it do its thing for the 10-12 hours needed . then put in pots & in the fridge. Simple as that.

 

[harryopal1]

I know I have mentioned that I make lots of things myself- but yoghurt is certainly one of the things I do make, I can make a litre for about 20,000 IDR, so it makes sense to me to do that when compared to shop prices. Anyone can make yoghurt- get an inexpensive machine & throw the ingredients in & let it do its thing for the 10-12 hours needed . then put in pots & in the fridge. Simple as that.

How much is an inexpensive machine and from whence do you get one?

 

[atlantis]

How much is an inexpensive machine and from whence do you get one?

I saw some in Ace Hardware.
But Ace Hardware and inexpensive in the same sentence doesn't sound right.

Otherwise there is probably a bunch of on toped as usual. Look for "alat (or mesin) pembuat yogurt"

 

[harryopal1]

I saw some in Ace Hardware.
But Ace Hardware and inexpensive in the same sentence doesn't sound right.

Otherwise there is probably a bunch of on toped as usual. Look for "alat (or mesin) pembuat yogurt"

Thank you.

 

[jstar]

Out of laziness I used an existing pic. This is the correct one (thanks @atlantis ). Fresh from our fridge:

Now I checked the label and even this one has 6 grams of sugar which is rather a lot.

It will be used in cheese cake for a bit more sour version.

Those home made yoghurts are not bad (I experimented a lot a the time with those fungus like yoghurt plants) but often too liquid for me.

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[atlantis]

Now I checked the label and even this one has 6 grams of sugar which is rather a lot.

At least the set yogurt only has 6g of sugar / 100ml, which only comes from Lactose.
Anyway it's +/- the level of lactose sugar in cow's milk (I stand to be corrected but I believe it is around 5 to 6g / 100ml) to start with so it would be hard to do much less.

The Biokul original plain has probably double that amount if you consider the 6g of added sugar + the natural sugar contained in milk.

The only way to have a yogurt with no sugar at all would be to use (unsweetened of course) almond milk which is the only "milk" I think with strictly no sugar content. You'd have a gluten free, sugar free, soy free yogurt all in 1!

 

[Bad_azz]

How much is an inexpensive machine and from whence do you get one?

A few hundred thousand - Tokopedia.
I paid less than 300,000IDR for mine, if I remember correctly- certainly good enough for beginner level making.
What I do is buy a natural live yoghurt to use as the initial starter- then save a pot of the new Y for the next starter- throw it in the machine & add milk. I have lots of mulberries growing in my garden so I make these into a sloppy jam syrup, allow it to cool & drizzle in the top of the pots once Y is already in the pots & cool.

This one comes with its own pots too.

https://www.tokopedia.com/toko-sinyo/electric-yogurt-maker-machine-stainless-steel-with-7-cups-1-5-l?extParam=ivf%3Dfalse%26keyword%3Dyoghurt+maker%26search_id%3D202406240901368BF3CFBE6D906A223LMY%26src%3Dsearch

 

[Bad_azz]

I saw some in Ace Hardware.
But Ace Hardware and inexpensive in the same sentence doesn't sound right.

Otherwise there is probably a bunch of on toped as usual. Look for "alat (or mesin) pembuat yogurt"

or just search yoghurt maker & Tokopedia comes up with the goods.

 

[atlantis]

or just search yoghurt maker & Tokopedia comes up with the goods.

Smart sellers. They know who they have a better chance to market it to.

 

[centurion]

I know I have mentioned that I make lots of things myself- but yoghurt is certainly one of the things I do make, I can make a litre for about 20,000 IDR, so it makes sense to me to do that when compared to shop prices. Anyone can make yoghurt- get an inexpensive machine & throw the ingredients in & let it do its thing for the 10-12 hours needed . then put in pots & in the fridge. Simple as that.

You do not need a machine to make yoghurt.

 

[Samoerai]

You do not need a machine to make yoghurt.

Indeed, just (warm) milk and a couple of spoons old yoghurt in a jar. Let it cool of 24 h.

How To Make Yoghurt

Making yoghurt at home is easier than you think and is so much cheaper than buying it. Here is how to make yoghurt at home using three simple methods!

www.thekiwicountrygirl.com

 

[atlantis]

I remember doing curd in Kashmir 30 years ago or so.
I was staying in a house boat on Dal Lake in Srinagar and every evening there were those shikara passing by selling raw milk. We were buying some, just pouring it in small ceramic jars, covering it and in the morning, as a miracle, we had this amazing curd in place of the milk.
Stayed a month there smoking charas and eating curd.

 

[jstar]

What else does one need?

 

[Bob]

We have talked about (the lack of unsweetened) yoghurt before.

Now if you don’t want to make it yourself and you like the rather thick sour version, this might be the one for jou.

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Biokul's good. Heavenly Blush isn't bad either. I get it because it comes in 1 liter tubs.

 

[pantaiema]

In Bandung, West Java, there are quite a few places that sell local yogurt, with some establishments specializing in a variety of yogurts. This drinking yoghurt tradition has been there in Bandung for many decades. While there are also places in Jakarta, they don't seem to be as numerous as those in Bandung.

Also, don't forget that yogurt from 'Danone' such as Actimel, is not imported but produced locally. This means that local knowledge and expertise are definitely present in Indonesia.

 

[Pak Tani]

How much is an inexpensive machine and from whence do you get one?

Before you decide to buy a yoghurt maker, have a look at your rice cooker first. Some can do more than just making nasi; they have the option to make stews, yoghurt and more. Like this Yong Ma below:

In some countries the sale of raw milk is strictly prohibited and this is enforced by federal police. Fortunately we don't live in such a banana republic and raw milk is widely available. Usually in areas with abundant rainfall, like in the hills or mountains where the dry season is relatively short. It is often sold at KUD's (koperasi unit desa) where small milk farmers bring their milk and where it is chilled and resold again.
This is the type of milk if you leave it in the fridge over night, it forms a thick layer of fat on top. It's delicious.
Maybe 30 years ago I wouldn't have pasteurised it either before making yoghurt from it, but gastro-intestinal issues tend to negatively impact my mood, so usually I heat it up first. The milk at the KUD is sold per liter for around Rp10.000 and may look like this: