Exotic foods

[Wisnu]

You probably also didn't missed the use of "Edam" on the PT Pacific Lacto jaya cheese in this thread, despite being produced in Tangerang?

I'm curious with PT. Pacific Lacto Jaya. Not much information in the internet. Their website is for Lacto asia pte. which according their about us:
Lacto Asia Trading division provides high-quality products and service to customers fast-growing Asian market. We source dairy ingredients from major milk-producing region in Oceania, Europe, North America and South America. We supply them to local food manufactures in countries where we have overseas subsidiaries and to customers in neighboring countries.

Yesterday, I talked to the shop owner and a Dutch friend - they dont believe that this company able to produce Edam and Gouda in Indonesia, could be just a trick to get high TKDN (local content) purpose.

I was curious, I bought 1 kg, the taste was okay, a little light - but this is an opinion of orang kampung who knows more about tempeh and tofu than cheese despite living in a Dutch community for 20 years.
So any cheese expert in Bali, feel free to visit us to evaluate it, sure you'll also get Rp. 2000 air fried croissant for gratis. One thing that sure, the air here is better than Canggu or Kuta; and the water is amazing, our subak water is clearer than you pool.

 

[harryopal1]

Colby was first produced sometime in the 1800s in a town named Colby. Been there many times and have visited a few cheese producers there. The Monterey Jack as I have heard started in California by the Spanish Franciscans. Combined, they make the bulk of the cheese used for Tex Mex and Mexican dishes. Both cheeses are made similar to cheddar with the jack cheese being a bit sweeter. You find Colby cheese portioned and sold retail but not as much Monterey Jack.

As for the orange cheese. The vast majority of cheddars in the US are orange. I think white was the original color but I don't think I even heard of white cheddar until I was in my late 20s.

But why orange?

 

[fastpitch17]

But why orange?

Americans, dare to be different. Or, perhaps the name cheddar was protected in it's white natural state in Cheddar England so to make it at least not look like the original, it went orange.

Or, you can ask the cheese makers. It's England's fault.

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[atlantis]

I'm curious with PT. Pacific Lacto Jaya. Not much information in the internet. Their website is for Lacto asia pte. which according their about us:
Lacto Asia Trading division provides high-quality products and service to customers fast-growing Asian market. We source dairy ingredients from major milk-producing region in Oceania, Europe, North America and South America. We supply them to local food manufactures in countries where we have overseas subsidiaries and to customers in neighboring countries.

Yesterday, I talked to the shop owner and a Dutch friend - they dont believe that this company able to produce Edam and Gouda in Indonesia, could be just a trick to get high TKDN (local content) purpose.

I was curious, I bought 1 kg, the taste was okay, a little light - but this is an opinion of orang kampung who knows more about tempeh and tofu than cheese despite living in a Dutch community for 20 years.
So any cheese expert in Bali, feel free to visit us to evaluate it, sure you'll also get Rp. 2000 air fried croissant for gratis. One thing that sure, the air here is better than Canggu or Kuta; and the water is amazing, our subak water is clearer than you pool.

Alternatively an explanation could be that they import big blocks of cheese (like the 20 kg one I was mentioning earlier) from foreign dairy companies which have a surplus, then cut and package them in Tangerang, adding their own brand name.
This is the case for example of all the keju with the brand Perfetto that you would find in supermarkets. It would then be considered by BPOM as a local product and the issuance of a MD number would follow.
It's difficult to get information on them anyway. I met them through Prambanan Kencana who is an importer and distributor we work with for many products, but I wasn't interested by any of their product that I find expensive for what they are (we are talking about trader's price, not the retail price you may get them in MT places).
I don't like these repackaged product because you have very little traceability. I could say more but I should better cage the discussion

 

[jstar]

Yeah from a lot track & trace perspective, that whole repackaging of food (and medication!) which you see here often*, is simply not a proper idea. At least not by some unknown seller on Tokopedia.

Try to organize a recall in case of poisoning for instance. And the overall quality and expiry date might be lost or negatively affected.

* Even with dog food.

I also buy that Mimolette only as full ball. Never repackaged.

It’s a shame I’m leaving for Jakarta shortly @Wisnu , I would have liked to try that.

 

[jstar]

It’s kind of interesting to see how an’exotic’ product or type of food can suddenly change to a normal one with the snap of a finger.

Years ago it already happened to kale and mushrooms for instance. Now I also saw it happening with Brussels Sprouts. I had to find them on the Glodok market, now many supermarkets have them, and they’re the -more tasty- small ones. In the cooler.

Still waiting for the moment I won’t have to pay 90K for a single giant leek (not the spring onions etc.).

Or this…

https://www.tokopedia.com/alfiestore1/sale-unox-rookworst-geldezse-xxl-375gr-berkualitas

Ah no never mind. In Kemchick one smaller one was 200K which was already ridiculous. They’re gone now.

 

[Samoerai]

It’s kind of interesting to see how an’exotic’ product or type of food can suddenly change to a normal one with the snap of a finger.

Years ago it already happened to kale and mushrooms for instance. Now I also saw it happening with Brussels Sprouts. I had to find them on the Glodok market, now many supermarkets have them, and they’re the -more tasty- small ones. In the cooler.

Still waiting for the moment I won’t have to pay 90K for a single giant leek (not the spring onions etc.).

Or this…

https://www.tokopedia.com/alfiestore1/sale-unox-rookworst-geldezse-xxl-375gr-berkualitas

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Ah no never mind. In Kemchick one smaller one was 200K which was already ridiculous. They’re gone now.

470k ... huh?

 

[Balifrog]

@jstar , you who are the expert, any chance to find this ?

Probably 15 years since I tasted some

 

[harryopal1]

French Click Ltd
Unit 12 Chelsea Fields Industrial Estate
278 Western Road
London
SW19 2QA https://www.frenchclick.co.uk/t-contact.aspx

Trying to be funny I looked on line to locate where this might be sold. Twice got message "Forbidden" and "you cannot access this web site from this location." I then used my VPN to locate in Melbourne and got access to the above web site. This often happens with trying to access websites in other countries. Is this because of some Indonesian block to foreign access? It might make sense if it were porn or the dark web.

 

[Shadrach]

French Click Ltd
Unit 12 Chelsea Fields Industrial Estate
278 Western Road
London
SW19 2QA https://www.frenchclick.co.uk/t-contact.aspx

Trying to be funny I looked on line to locate where this might be sold. Twice got message "Forbidden" and "you cannot access this web site from this location." I then used my VPN to locate in Melbourne and got access to the above web site. This often happens with trying to access websites in other countries. Is this because of some Indonesian block to foreign access? It might make sense if it were porn or the dark web.

You might be on to something! This could be used for many nefarious activities! Eating good food, not control by the government here! Maybe a weapon of mass satisfaction!

 

[jstar]

@jstar , you who are the expert, any chance to find this ? View attachment 4115Probably 15 years since I tasted some

Difficult. Not taking into account that the German Herta is part of the Nestlé group: We call it generically Saucisson de Paris / Parijse worst (Sausage of Paris).

The combination of boiled pork and garlic and pepper is not so popular here.

I did see similar versions but then the garlic is always lacking or you end up with a halal chicken meat version. And sausages like these are practically impossible to make yourself.

I could take some from Europe if you can wait till the end of the year.

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[pantaiema]

'Herta' is well-known for their Frankfurters (hot dogs) and other sausage products. Frequent travellers to Europe can easily find Herta products on the shelves of many supermarket chains across the continent. A pack of 10 Herta Frankfurters (e.g 350g) costs less than EUR 3, and their other products are similarly inexpensive, making it possible to eat them almost every day without blowing the bank account. Because of their affordability, Herta products are hardly considered exotic or exclusive on the continent. In contrast, seafood, fish-egg / fish-roe especially from the North Sea, is viewed as more exotic. This is the opposite of Indonesia, where Herta's products are seen as exotic, while seafood and, fish-roe are not.

It just goes to show that sometimes we think / feel the grass is greener on the other side.

 

[Balifrog]

I could take some from Europe if you can wait till the end of the year.

Thanks for the offer. Any brand will do !
Let's keep in touch on this !

 

[Shadrach]

'Herta' is well-known for their Frankfurters (hot dogs) and other sausage products. Frequent travellers to Europe can easily find Herta products on the shelves of many supermarket chains across the continent. A pack of 10 Herta Frankfurters (e.g 350g) costs less than EUR 3, and their other products are similarly inexpensive, making it possible to eat them almost every day without blowing the bank account. Because of their affordability, Herta products are hardly considered exotic or exclusive on the continent. In contrast, seafood, fish-egg / fish-roe especially from the North Sea, is viewed as more exotic. This is the opposite of Indonesia, where Herta's products are seen as exotic, while seafood and, fish-roe are not.

It just goes to show that sometimes we think / feel the grass is greener on the other side.

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I don't agree that seafood and fish roe, are widely available in Indonesia! From what I've seen. Most Balinese never eat those products! Only people that live near the Ocean have this food available. And where in Bali, can a person buy fish roe?

 

[Samoerai]

French Click Ltd
Unit 12 Chelsea Fields Industrial Estate
278 Western Road
London
SW19 2QA https://www.frenchclick.co.uk/t-contact.aspx

Trying to be funny I looked on line to locate where this might be sold. Twice got message "Forbidden" and "you cannot access this web site from this location." I then used my VPN to locate in Melbourne and got access to the above web site. This often happens with trying to access websites in other countries. Is this because of some Indonesian block to foreign access? It might make sense if it were porn or the dark web.

This is due to geographical restrictions as these websites (in this case French click) mainly targetting local customers (French or European customers).

Btw. I could access the website without VPN from Jakarta.

 

[Balifrog]

This is due to geographical restrictions as these websites (in this case French click) mainly targetting local customers (French or European customers).

Btw. I could access the website without VPN from Jakarta.

And it works perfectly from Bali without VPN !

 

[atlantis]

And where in Bali, can a person buy fish roe?

Any pasar ikan have them.
In Manado, where I live, you would often get a mix of tuna/cakalang/ikan layar roe on offer.

I haven't checked carefully but apart flying fish roe/tobiko I don't think that most supermarket would retail them.

 

[john madden]

Any pasar ikan have them.
In Manado, where I live, you would often get a mix of tuna/cakalang/ikan layar roe on offer.

I haven't checked carefully but apart flying fish roe/tobiko I don't think that most supermarket would retail them.

Same in Java. The fish seller at the pasar will often have roe/melts, esp first thing in the morning.

 

[pantaiema]

I don't agree that seafood and fish roe, are widely available in Indonesia! From what I've seen. Most Balinese never eat those products! Only people that live near the Ocean have this food available. And where in Bali, can a person buy fish roe?

In addition to the good suggestions above, you can also find it on online marketplaces like Tokopedia and Shopee. Use the search term "telur ikan terbang" and narrow the results to the Bali region or the distance from your location.

This is an example from Tokopedia "Tobiko" in Denpasar sent via courier 'gojek/grab'

https://www.tokopedia.com/search?q=telur+ikan+terbang&source=universe&st=product&navsource=home&srp_component_id=02.02.01.01

You could get 500g of flying fish roe like this for around idr300k

Alternatively, visit a restaurant specializing in seafood or Japanese sushi, such as Blufin. I have not personally tried Japanese sushi restaurant in Bali. The true paradise for flying fish roe and other seafood is Makassar. It is 'relatively' cheap and abundant. I have made a few posts about this in the past.

 

[jstar]

We have talked about (the lack of unsweetened) yoghurt before.

Now if you don’t want to make it yourself and you like the rather thick sour version, this might be the one for jou.