EV in Indonesia

Don't forget, those solar farms will need lots and lots of batteries. Are you sure that is going in the right direction? Given that they are useless at night and have a severely impacted output without direct sunlight you don't want too many rainy days in a row.
I don't know, but they can't hurt.
Oil is not a good option and solar works well in sunny countries.
Poor weather reduces power output, but it doesn't stop them working.
 
Solar is an intermittent energy.
You still need a gas / coal / nuclear source behind it when the sun doesn't shine.
Wind, geothermal, and water/wave are all possibilities.
I think it was South Australia that generated 100% of its electricity using solar in 2020. I believe it was only for a short time, but solar is getting more and more efficient so we might well see a lot more of the same. That possibility was strengthened when the same area ran 100% solar for a week earlier this year.
The main advantage, apart from reducing pollution, is freedom from oil politics and oil costs.
Indonesia seems to be a very motorbike orientated country, and electric bikes are already at a usable level for most users.
The big jump for cars will be whatever new battery technology comes along with greater range and lower costs. Betavolt's tech is extremely limited this week, but the Chinese are developing new tech at stunning rates so we have no idea when we will see next week. .
 
I don't know, but they can't hurt.
Oil is not a good option and solar works well in sunny countries.
Poor weather reduces power output, but it doesn't stop them working.
On cloudy days, they can't meet demand because of the lower output so will need to be backed up by something else. Now were are back where we started and have tons of batteries to deal with. Indonesian power is still mostly coal, as long as that stays the case, you aren't buying any environmental benefits. Just moving waste from one place to another.
 
On cloudy days, they can't meet demand because of the lower output so will need to be backed up by something else. Now were are back where we started and have tons of batteries to deal with. Indonesian power is still mostly coal, as long as that stays the case, you aren't buying any environmental benefits. Just moving waste from one place to another.
Time is the key. Motor cars were no match for horses not many years ago.
Solar is still weak, but that's today.
 
People in the far Northern Hemisphere will have their lights for 6 months and then live in the dark for the other 6. Imagine the batteries needed to live in Alaska or Northern Canada?
 
In 100 years the sun will still not shine at night, and nearly never in Scotland....
True, but panels will be more efficient and batteries will be very different.
Scotland will have tropical rain forests, or be under 10 yards of snow.
Scotland has lots of wind, especially on Friday nights after they down skin full of whatever.
 
On cloudy days, they can't meet demand because of the lower output so will need to be backed up by something else. Now were are back where we started and have tons of batteries to deal with. Indonesian power is still mostly coal, as long as that stays the case, you aren't buying any environmental benefits. Just moving waste from one place to another.
For me it is primarily about pollution, being able to live in a city without car\bike fumes everywhere.
Next stage is to get rid of the noise pollution!
 
People in the far Northern Hemisphere will have their lights for 6 months and then live in the dark for the other 6. Imagine the batteries needed to live in Alaska or Northern Canada?
Are you saying the whole world should scrap solar because some can't use it?

Desert areas can't use water, but it powered the early part of the industrial revolution in England.
Eskimos aren't going to get much of a tan, but half of the women in England go crazy for one.

Your point seems a little weak.
 
Are you saying the whole world should scrap solar because some can't use it?

Desert areas can't use water, but it powered the early part of the industrial revolution in England.
Eskimos aren't going to get much of a tan, but half of the women in England go crazy for one.

Your point seems a little weak.
I just can't find where I said the whole world should scrap solar so I guess the answer would be no.

WTF? Desert areas can't use water. That isn't just weak but a pretty dumb thing to say. They are deserts due to the lack of water so my guess they could use all the water they could get. Oh, Eskimos don't need tans. They are already in the natural tan category.

By the way Mr "I don't really read post," you should have noticed my post was in relationship to the batteries and their size and says nothing about solar in general. I leave those well thought out professional post to the experienced armchair engineers.
 
An interesting documentary on "renewable" energy, and the cost that comes with it.

I just watch that documentary on Not Just, ( renewable) Energy, and found it extremely depressing! It seemed underhandedly promoting fossil, and Nuclear power to generate electricity, more than renewables. They did do a very good job of explaining the factors, in all the different sources of producing electricity. In my opinion, it still seemed it was promoting fossil fuel and Nuclear too much.
One very good point was the problem with distribution. Having to still use cables, towers, etc., to store, and distribute the energy was it seemed, the most major problem. They said we need new technology, and I absolutely agree. Like Nikola Tesla's idea of distributing power wirelessly, through the air, would be a excellent way to solve that problem. Also try to come up with unimaginable ideas how to create electricity!
Hopefully, we will promote more education for our young people, and they will come up with answers to this problem!
No one wants, Mother's to have to dumpster dive, to feed their families!
Please everyone try to contribute positive idea's and not just bash me for expressing my opinion. That's to be seen?
 
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I just can't find where I said the whole world should scrap solar so I guess the answer would be no.

WTF? Desert areas can't use water. That isn't just weak but a pretty dumb thing to say. They are deserts due to the lack of water so my guess they could use all the water they could get. Oh, Eskimos don't need tans. They are already in the natural tan category.

By the way Mr "I don't really read post," you should have noticed my post was in relationship to the batteries and their size and says nothing about solar in general. I leave those well thought out professional post to the experienced armchair engineers.
Ok, please give us some possible solutions to the problem with Batteries? Yes, we know already they are made of rare Earth metals, are inefficient, too heavy, toxic, etc.,so give us your ideas how to work with this problem, and come up with a better solution?
 
This subject is one that at this time in our lives, will go around and around, with ideas, good and bad. Someone did say in a post before, that like a long time ago, no one would have dreamed of all the changes in our world in such a relatively short time. From the discovery of how to make fire, to Spaceships flying to the far galaxies!
But we are at a crucial stage now! That how we live is destroying the very planet we live on, and we must find a way to provide all the necessities in a way that we will not only survive, but thrive! What about trying to harness the Gravitational field around the Earth?
I am excited to see what the geniuses of this world come up with. 🙏❤️🌈👍☮️🍄
 
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Ok, please give us some possible solutions to the problem with Batteries? Yes, we know already they are made of rare Earth metals, are inefficient, too heavy, toxic, etc.,so give us your ideas how to work with this problem, and come up with a better solution?
You are confusing me with someone who might give a rats ass about solutions. I am not the expert nor ever claimed or acted like to be like some seem to. I will give my personal opinions on things based on facts, like the cost and size of the batteries that would be needed for Arctic solar energy but damned if I am going to say any different just because a so called self proclaimed tree hugging expert thinks I should. Hey, guess what? Maybe your solar energy just won't work every where. Ever think of that?
 
You are confusing me with someone who might give a rats ass about solutions. I am not the expert nor ever claimed or acted like to be like some seem to. I will give my personal opinions on things based on facts, like the cost and size of the batteries that would be needed for Arctic solar energy but damned if I am going to say any different just because a so called self proclaimed tree hugging expert thinks I should. Hey, guess what? Maybe your solar energy just won't work every where. Ever think of that?
I'm with you 100%. It's easy to imagine solutions that can never be accomplished. It's a lot harder to actually use existing science to make steps forward. It just so happens that they don't like those steps even though they have no better ideas. Science doesn't care about feelings and that is just a cold hard fact.
 
Batteries don't like the cold very much either, So you would looking at double speccing them at minimum.
True, but it isn't generally very cold in the tropics.
This is the same as using veggie oil in diesel engines. It clogs up your injectors if you live in a cold country, but it's fine when the weather is warmer.
 
True, but it isn't generally very cold in the tropics.
This is the same as using veggie oil in diesel engines. It clogs up your injectors if you live in a cold country, but it's fine when the weather is warmer.
Now there was an idea that had legs and is still producing some decent results in bio fuels. There was a guy in the US that had his truck running quite well on used cooking oil with some rather minor alterations. It was a pain to filter out but he was able to get all he wanted for free from his local Chinese restaurant. His exhaust smelled like fried chicken, which was rather odd but he had a pretty good system for a while. Makes me wonder what finally happened with him.
 
Now there was an idea that had legs and is still producing some decent results in bio fuels. There was a guy in the US that had his truck running quite well on used cooking oil with some rather minor alterations. It was a pain to filter out but he was able to get all he wanted for free from his local Chinese restaurant. His exhaust smelled like fried chicken, which was rather odd but he had a pretty good system for a while. Makes me wonder what finally happened with him.
Yea I met that guy once in Oregon. He was a Quack up, always yolking around.Unfortunately he ran into some bad Cluck, And his engine blew the Coop!
 
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