Are you ready for Jokowi-Prabowo 2024?

[harryopal1]

Watched Gibran today fielding questions from media and surprised that he still seems so uncomfortable and when pressed walked away. Such a strange seeming alliance with Prabowo. It will be interesting to see how it all pans out. With the major Indonesian TV syndicates owned and managed by people deeply involved in the political processes the focus on politics at the expense of almost everything else it seems the net works have become propaganda tools rather than serving as instruments of objective analysis

 

[Wisnu]

me, i make it simple, ABA - asal bukan A - as long as not A.
G lost my sympathy after U20. Not fan of P, so on the election day, probably I'll flip a coin.

 

[pantaiema]

GP has a good track record in fighting intolerant, radicalism but he has not got a proven history of actively combating corruption, although it is worth noting that there have been no significant allegations or evidence of involvement in major corruption cases against him.

However, the individual standing alongside GP as his Vice Presidential candidate boasts a longstanding and commendable record of actively opposing corruption, radicalism, and intolerance. Despite a lengthy career in politics, he has maintained an unblemished reputation when it comes to graft allegations. In fact, he together with the current president have taken major corruption cases to the public, challenging influential individuals with significant support from business circles who may attempt to influence those in positions of power through bribery.

You must have got an impeccably clean record to confront these influential individuals, given their substantial resources and capacity to retaliate.

 

[pantaiema]

One of the manifesto from a Vice president Candidate from the national awakening party (PKB) who is currently campaigning with Anies

5 Janji PKB Jika Cak Imin Menang Pilpres 2024: Anggaran Dana Desa Rp 5 Miliar hingga BBM dan Sekolah Gratis

Sedikitnya ada lima janji PKB jika Cak Imin menang Pilpres 2024, dari alokasi anggaran dana desa Rp 5 miliar hingga sekolah dan BBM gratis.

bisnis.tempo.co

Free Petrol for Motor bikes owners Could you believe that

Previous manifesto: Free Petrol for Motor bikes owners

This represents yet another manifesto from Muhaimin (Cak Imin), the vice-presidential candidate of Anies Baswedan (AB). He aims to establish 40 cities on par with Jakarta. It may be surprising that someone with such qualities could be a vice-presidential candidate.

But he still garners significant support, particularly from supporters those in boarding schools who may have limited exposure to the world beyond their compounds, who might have been brain washed that live is just about religion.

Cak Imin Mau Buat 40 Kota Selevel Jakarta, Bahlil Geleng-geleng Kebingungan

Respons Menteri Investasi Bahlil Lahadalia terkait pernyataan cawapres nomor urut 1 Muhaimin Iskandar yang ingin membangun 40 kota baru selevel Jakarta.

video.kompas.com

 

[fastpitch17]

40 cities like Jakarta and free gas for motorbikes. Yep, just like Jakarta. Congested roads and air pollution. No problem. Later he can come out with the excuses that others are blocking him. You know one can never put blame on themselves here.

 

[Pak Tani]

But he (Muhaimin) still garners significant support, particularly from supporters those in boarding schools who may have limited exposure to the world beyond their compounds, who might have been brain washed that live is just about religion.

If only everyone was blessed with the insight to vote for PDI-P.

 

[centurion]

If only everyone was blessed with the insight to vote for PDI-P.
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The "legacy", someone would say.

 

[pantaiema]

The presidential Candidate, Anies Baswedan is defending the idea of building 40 Cities similar to Jakarta.
Previous manifesto: Free Petrol for Motor bikes owners

Soal Bangun 40 Kota, Anies: Agar Tak Perlu Mengulangi Masalah di Jakarta

Anies mengatakan, 40 kota yang akan dikembangkan selevel Jakarta ini akan menjadi kota modern di kemudian hari.

nasional.kompas.com

This is his reason
"We want to build public transportation, we want to build a system, good water distribution, good waste processing, so that the (40) cities that are being developed don't have to repeat the problems that exist in Jakarta,"

Is there a global example of a nation with 40 other cities matching the development of its capital? It's worth noting that he served as Jakarta's Governor a few years ago, during which he exacerbated flood management issues in the city.

The origin of this concept may have been influenced by their scientists, who possibly concentrated more on Middle East politics than on broadening their knowledge on their core competences.
Below is just a few examples of his manifesto from his campaign for the Jakarta Governor position, where he emerged victorious against Ahok.
https://www.infoindonesia.id/info-p...anji-Anies-Baswedan-yang-Cuma-Manis-di-Bibir-
A collection of Anies Baswedan's campaign pledges that appear to be mere verbal, lip services without substantial follow-through.

• 0% Down Payment affordable Houses: 2,332 units from the target of 232,214 (Result: 1%).
• Safe houses for women and children victims of violence, four units from the target of 267 (Result: 1.5%).
• The Construction of "Science Park": Result: 0%
• Development of the Jakarta LRT by regional Jakarta Governmental enterprises, BUMD PT Jakpro: Result: 0%
• Construction of LRT in other part of Indonesia in Collaboration between Regional Government and Business Entities (PDBU): Result: 0%
• River normalization: Result: 0%.
• Intermediate Treatment Facility (ITF) in the city to reduce waste: Result: 0%., etc

It is important to scrutinize what he pledged during the campaign as the governor of Jakarta and what was actually accomplished. Unfortunately, there is still a significant number of voters in Indonesia who believe that a particular religion is the best solution for societal issues.

 

[harryopal1]

The population of Jakarta is just over 10 million x 40 is 400 million people. How many cars? Sounds like a nightmare.

 

[Bob]

The presidential Candidate, Anies Baswedan is defending the idea of building 40 Cities similar to Jakarta.
Previous manifesto: Free Petrol for Motor bikes owners

Soal Bangun 40 Kota, Anies: Agar Tak Perlu Mengulangi Masalah di Jakarta

Anies mengatakan, 40 kota yang akan dikembangkan selevel Jakarta ini akan menjadi kota modern di kemudian hari.

nasional.kompas.com

This is his reason
"We want to build public transportation, we want to build a system, good water distribution, good waste processing, so that the (40) cities that are being developed don't have to repeat the problems that exist in Jakarta,"

Is there a global example of a nation with 40 other cities matching the development of its capital? It's worth noting that he served as Jakarta's Governor a few years ago, during which he exacerbated flood management issues in the city.

The origin of this concept may have been influenced by their scientists, who possibly concentrated more on Middle East politics than on broadening their knowledge on their core competences.
Below is his manifesto from his campaign for the Jakarta Governor position, where he emerged victorious against Ahok.
https://www.infoindonesia.id/info-p...anji-Anies-Baswedan-yang-Cuma-Manis-di-Bibir-
A collection of Anies Baswedan's campaign pledges that appear to be mere verbal, lip services without substantial follow-through.

• 0% Down Payment affordable Houses: 2,332 units from the target of 232,214 (Result: 1%).
• Safe houses for women and children victims of violence, four units from the target of 267 (Result: 1.5%).
• The Construction of "Science Park": Result: 0%
• Development of the Jakarta LRT by regional Jakarta Governmental enterprises, BUMD PT Jakpro: Result: 0%
• Construction of LRT in other part of Indonesia in Collaboration between Regional Government and Business Entities (PDBU): Result: 0%
• River normalization: Result: 0%.
• Intermediate Treatment Facility (ITF) in the city to reduce waste: Result: 0%., etc

It is important to scrutinize what he pledged during the campaign as the governor of Jakarta and what was actually accomplished. Unfortunately, there is still a significant number of voters in Indonesia who believe that a particular religion is the best solution for societal issues.

Is the inclusion of the LRT entries a mistake or just obfuscation?
InfoIndonesia doesn't look to be the most credible source.

 

[pantaiema]

Is the inclusion of the LRT entries a mistake or just obfuscation?
InfoIndonesia doesn't look to be the most credible source.

You could double check it from other sources as it is well published. For instance this is from 'Tempo'

Rapor Anies, Janji Kampanye, Realisasi & 20 Nilai Merah yang Indah di Kata-kata

Anies Baswedan akan melepas jabatannya sebagai Gubernur DKI Jakarta besok, Ahad, 16 Oktober 2022. Bagaimana nilai Anies selama jadi gubernur?

fokus.tempo.co

"Perkembangan Pembangunan LRT Jakarta oleh BUMD PT Jakpro: 0 persen."

This is from 'Kompas'

Anies Dianggap Tak Tuntaskan Belasan Janji Kampanye, Mulai Normalisasi hingga Rumah DP Rp 0 Halaman all - Kompas.com

Fraksi PDI-P DPRD DKI Jakarta menilai ada belasan janji kampanye politik Gubernur DKI Jakarta Anies Baswedan saat Pilkada 2017 yang tak terealisasi. Halaman all

megapolitan.kompas.com

"Gembong turut menyoroti kampanye politik Anies yang tak terealisasi lainnya seperti normalisasi sungai, pembangunan intermediate treatment facility (ITF), dan pembangunan lintas raya terpadu (LRT)"

this is from 'Suara'

Rapor Merah Anies Baswedan dari PDIP, Bikin 23 Janji Hanya Lima yang Ditepati

Berikut rapor merah Anies Baswedan yang diberikan PDIP jelang akhir masa kepemimpinannya sebagai Gubernur DKI Jakarta.

www.suara.com

0%: Pembangunan LRT Kerjasama Pemerintah Daerah dengan Badan Usaha (PDBU)

 

[Bob]

You could double check it from other sources as it is well published. For instance this is from 'Tempo'

Rapor Anies, Janji Kampanye, Realisasi & 20 Nilai Merah yang Indah di Kata-kata

Anies Baswedan akan melepas jabatannya sebagai Gubernur DKI Jakarta besok, Ahad, 16 Oktober 2022. Bagaimana nilai Anies selama jadi gubernur?

fokus.tempo.co

"Perkembangan Pembangunan LRT Jakarta oleh BUMD PT Jakpro: 0 persen."

This is from 'Kompas'

Anies Dianggap Tak Tuntaskan Belasan Janji Kampanye, Mulai Normalisasi hingga Rumah DP Rp 0 Halaman all - Kompas.com

Fraksi PDI-P DPRD DKI Jakarta menilai ada belasan janji kampanye politik Gubernur DKI Jakarta Anies Baswedan saat Pilkada 2017 yang tak terealisasi. Halaman all

megapolitan.kompas.com

"Gembong turut menyoroti kampanye politik Anies yang tak terealisasi lainnya seperti normalisasi sungai, pembangunan intermediate treatment facility (ITF), dan pembangunan lintas raya terpadu (LRT)"

this is from 'Suara'

Rapor Merah Anies Baswedan dari PDIP, Bikin 23 Janji Hanya Lima yang Ditepati

Berikut rapor merah Anies Baswedan yang diberikan PDIP jelang akhir masa kepemimpinannya sebagai Gubernur DKI Jakarta.

www.suara.com

0%: Pembangunan LRT Kerjasama Pemerintah Daerah dengan Badan Usaha (PDBU)

And yet there's a working LRT in Jakarta and surrounding areas today. Progress was made in transportation during his term. So, back to the original question.

 

[fastpitch17]

What has Anies actually done for Jakarta besides E1 that disrupts and already traffic that is chaotic? And you want him building more cities under his direction? No thanks.

 

[Bob]

What has Anies actually done for Jakarta besides E1 that disrupts and already traffic that is chaotic? And you want him building more cities under his direction? No thanks.

Who's that for?

 

[fastpitch17]

Who's that for?

Anybody.

 

[Bob]

Anybody.

Well you said somebody wants him building new cities but I didn't see anyone saying that's a good idea.

 

[fastpitch17]

Well you said somebody wants him building new cities but I didn't see anyone saying that's a good idea.

You're right. Should have said, why would anyone.

 

[pantaiema]

How one of the Indonesian presidential candidate acquires
340 thousand hectares of land.

This describes the acquisition of 340 thousand hectares of land in Borneo by a Presidential Candidate PS, and their involvement with Kiani Paper and Pulp Companies. The information originates from a direct testimony by JK, who was the vice president at the time. JK was the key figure in the discussions regarding the acquisition process, ultimately leading to the finalization of the deal.

Jusuf Kalla Opens Up About Prabowo's 340 Thousand Hectares of Land

Revealing Prabowo's Land Data, Anies is Reported

According to this, the acquisition of these lands occurred through the takeover of the lands with outstanding loans (Bad Credit) of a businessman Bob Hasan from the government bank, and the process did not involve a competitive tendering procedure.

It's noteworthy that Bob Hasan is part of Suharto's inner circle, and PS is Suharto's son-in-law. Since they are acquainted, it wouldn't be surprising to speculate that the funds used for the acquisition of the land at a favourable price, bypassing the tender process, were obtained by simply returning a portion of the loan they received from the bank.

 

[snpark]

And woohoo look where the new capital is being built and what land is having to be purchased for top $$$
My inside sources say this was done during the last election, it was Prab's "payoff" to keep quiet and the troops quiet while Joko was in charge

 

[Samoerai]

How one of the Indonesian presidential candidate acquires
340 thousand hectares of land.

This describes the acquisition of 340 thousand hectares of land in Borneo by a Presidential Candidate PS, and their involvement with Kiani Paper and Pulp Companies. The information originates from a direct testimony by JK, who was the vice president at the time. JK was the key figure in the discussions regarding the acquisition process, ultimately leading to the finalization of the deal.

Jusuf Kalla Opens Up About Prabowo's 340 Thousand Hectares of Land

Revealing Prabowo's Land Data, Anies is Reported

According to this, the acquisition of these lands occurred through the takeover of the lands with outstanding loans (Bad Credit) of a businessman Bob Hasan from the government bank, and the process did not involve a competitive tendering procedure.

It's noteworthy that Bob Hasan is part of Suharto's inner circle, and PS is Suharto's son-in-law. Since they are acquainted, it wouldn't be surprising to speculate that the funds used for the acquisition of the land at a favourable price, bypassing the tender process, were obtained by simply returning a portion of the loan they received from the bank.

They belong to the 0.1% who own 50% of all capital in Indonesia.

The 0.1 Percenter: Millionaire Households Control Half of Indonesia's Wealth

A tiny number of millionaire households will control more than 50 percent of Indonesia's financial wealth — around $900 billion — by 2021.

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