Visa Options for ex-WNI (Vitas, Kitas, Kitap)

Hi guys, does anyone know if the 318 visa still exists? Or has this replaced it? This visa just seems too expensive as it's asking to purchase a bunch of govt bonds or shares. Sorta regretting not applying for the 318 a few years ago if this is the case...

No need to regret you could still apply for C318 Visa, e.g Limited stay for Ex WNI
The official information is available on MENKUNHAM Website.


This visa is also still listed in kemlu.go.id where you might be ab;e to apply online.
 
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No need to regret you could still appy for C318 Visa, e.g Limited stay for Ex WNI
The official information is available on MENKUNHAM Website.


This visa is also still listed in kemlu.go.id wehre you might be ab;e to apply online.
yes it still exists but it isn't called the C318 visa anymore. There are now 3 visas for ex-indonesians, a 5 year one, 1 year one and 2 year one. What I find funny is that the 5 and 1 year visa needs you to buy shares but the 2 year one doesn't. So that will be the one that I'll go for I guess.
 
yes it still exists but it isn't called the C318 visa anymore. There are now 3 visas for ex-indonesians, a 5 year one, 1 year one and 2 year one. What I find funny is that the 5 and 1 year visa needs you to buy shares but the 2 year one doesn't. So that will be the one that I'll go for I guess.

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I just checked it. It is still called C318 (Vitas untuk Repatriasi eks WNI). It is still listed as the recognisable VISA where you could apply online. Have you tried to apply online ?? Alternatively you might want to ask the Indonesian embassy/consular where you reside (?)
 
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I just checked it. It is still called C318 (Vitas untuk Repatriasi eks WNI). It is still listed as the recognisable VISA where you could apply online. Have you tried to apply online ?? Alternatively you might want to ask the Indonesian embassy/consular where you reside (?)
The way to apply for a visa now is by going to https://molina.imigrasi.go.id/ and there the 318 visa has been replaced with 4 different visas. I have spoken to multiple agents and they have also said this. It is a new change that happened within the past few months it seems. The only visa that doesn't have the requirement to buy a bunch of shares is the E32C two year visa for ex-Indonesians.
 
The way to apply for a visa now is by going to https://molina.imigrasi.go.id/ and there the 318 visa has been replaced with 4 different visas. I have spoken to multiple agents and they have also said this. It is a new change that happened within the past few months it seems. The only visa that doesn't have the requirement to buy a bunch of shares is the E32C two year visa for ex-Indonesians.
I just browsed the financial support requirement:

E32D - Ex Indonesian 1 year:
d. Statement of commitment that must be accomplished within a maximum of 90 (ninety) days after the date of entry into Indonesia, such as:
  • Purchase Indonesian government bonds with a value of US$15.000
  • Purchase shares of publicly listed companies in Indonesia with a value of US$15.000 or
  • Purchase mutual funds in Indonesian companies with a value of US$15.000
E32C - Ex Indonesian 2 year:
d. Proof of guarantee from the guarantor.

E32A - Ex Indonesian 5 year:
d. Statement of commitment that must be accomplished within 90 (ninety) days from the date of arrival, such as:
  • Purchase of Indonesian government bonds worth US$35.000 or
  • Purchase of shares or mutual funds in publicly listed companies in Indonesia worth US$35.000
It is quite interesting to observe here is that for those who could find a guarantor such as family member, the 2-years is less restricted than 1-year.
 
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Does the guarantor have to put up any money themselves?
To my understanding, the definition of a guarantor remains consistent with its application in the previous version of the visa, as it is still based on the same immigration Law No. 6 year 2011.

Traditionally, a Guarantor has been understood as an individual or entity, such as a company or agency, that assumes full responsibility for the visitor's stay in Indonesia. Historically, this could include family member, employer, school, or other authorized institutions facilitating visa and entry permit applications to the Immigration office.

As far as I am aware, the only financial obligation as a guarantor is outlined in article 63, paragraph 3 of immigration Law No. 6 year 2011
"(3) Penjamin wajib membayar biaya yang timbul untuk memulangkan atau mengeluarkan Orang Asing yang dijaminnya dari Wilayah Indonesia apabila Orang Asing yang bersangkutan:
a. telah habis masa berlaku Izin Tinggalnya; dan/atau
b. dikenai Tindakan Administratif Keimigrasian berupa Deportasi."

(3) The Guarantor is obliged to pay the costs incurred to repatriate or remove the Foreigner he guarantees from Indonesian Territory if the Foreigner concerned:
a. the validity period of the Stay Permit has expired; and/or
b. subject to Immigration Administrative Action in the form of Deportation.

It does not say how much money they will need to put as a guarantor. The newest Government Regulation PP_40_2023 article 1 paragraph 20 & 20a still does not clarify this
"20. Penjamin adalah orang atau Korporasi yang bertanggung jawab atas keberadaan dan kegiatan Orang Asing selama berada di Wilayah Indonesia.
20a. Jaminan Keimigrasian adalah dana atau bentuk lain sebagai pengganti Penjamin
."
20. Guarantor is a person or corporation that is responsible for the presence and activities of foreigners while they are in Indonesian territory.
20a. Immigration Guarantee is funds or other forms as a substitute for Guarantor

Typically for Visa application in the embassy/consular, a Guarantor just need to write a Guarantee letter.
Example of a Guarantee letter

I believe this is in line with other countries where there is no fixed minimum amount of money the guarantors must have in the bank account. Regular income, own accommodations might do the job. But the common sense rule that the more credible the Guarantors is the more likely the Visa will get approved.

Also, it seems the financial obligations as a Guarantor in Indonesia still subject to debate among immigration law experts.
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Hello! Exciting news for ex-wni. Question: is any of the new ex-wni visas can be convertible to kitap/wni? if so, what is the process? TIA

edit: my guess is after applying for the 10 years E32B, you can either go to kitap, but need a sponsor. Or directly to WNI, need a sponsor too?

edit2: they upped the investment for for E32A/B to $50,000 USD from $35,000 USD. What is the best option to invest? open brokerage account locally? Can this money be used to buy real estate? How long does it need to stay invested? It only mentioned that we need to accomplish this within 90 days of arrival.
 
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Hello! Exciting news for ex-wni. Question: is any of the new ex-wni visas can be convertible to kitap/wni? if so, what is the process? TIA

edit: my guess is after applying for the 10 years E32B, you can either go to kitap, but need a sponsor. Or directly to WNI, need a sponsor too?

edit2: they upped the investment for for E32A/B to $50,000 USD from $35,000 USD. What is the best option to invest? open brokerage account locally? Can this money be used to buy real estate? How long does it need to stay invested? It only mentioned that we need to accomplish this within 90 days of arrival.
Check the post of Teabag in the thread 'Finally'.

I have migrated in April 2023 from Switzerland to Indonesia on a Visa 317, ikut isteri. My wife is ex WNI so she came with a repatriation visa. Due to the fact that my mother is heavily sick back home, we have started the kitas to kitap conversion after about 6 month after our arrival.

The whole process, from Visa to ITAS to ITAP went very smooth. There was NO need for extra money to the officers. The interview has taken place twice, once for my wife which lasted about 1 hour and was semi-formal and the second interview for my self was quite a bit of fun.
 

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