Yes, that was my observation too. Also in that area of the museum Bank Indonesia .. nothing.
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Cafe Batavia's an interesting place for sure. The guy who started it certainly had a full life.
Obituary: Graham James, Trailblazing Entrepreneur, Master of Revelry and Founder of Cafe Batavia
Graham had many other enterprises, among them Jakarta Expat magazine, which he launched in 2009 and later transferred to the present
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Obituary: Graham James, Trailblazing Entrepreneur, Master of Revelry and Founder of Cafe Batavia
Graham had many other enterprises, among them Jakarta Expat magazine, which he launched in 2009 and later transferred to the present
indonesiaexpat.id
According to the waiter in Cafe Batavia the present owner is an Indo-Chinees.
Yes, I believe he's from Kalimantan.Interesting.Obituary: Graham James, Trailblazing Entrepreneur, Master of Revelry and Founder of Cafe Batavia
Graham had many other enterprises, among them Jakarta Expat magazine, which he launched in 2009 and later transferred to the present
According to the waiter in Cafe Batavia the present owner is an Indo-Chinees.
Thanks for recommendations for new places to try in Jakarta. I like spending many evenings in PIK and PIK2. The walkability is so pleasant.
Sorry I am a year late to the discussion. I normally don't do a lot of western food while in Indonesia, but I found one place in PIK I like. One piezza. Good price. Quality as good as most higher end mall Italian restaurants. They sometimes have specials too, like buy one/get one drinks or a free drink with a pizza.
Batavia Cafe is the best part of the square for me. It is just a disapointment that there is not much put into the maintenance of it. My recollection was they had some type of happy hour last time I was there, which was well needed after sweating my ass off getting hit up by vendors, street performers, and pan handlers.
Sorry I am a year late to the discussion. I normally don't do a lot of western food while in Indonesia, but I found one place in PIK I like. One piezza. Good price. Quality as good as most higher end mall Italian restaurants. They sometimes have specials too, like buy one/get one drinks or a free drink with a pizza.
Batavia Cafe is the best part of the square for me. It is just a disapointment that there is not much put into the maintenance of it. My recollection was they had some type of happy hour last time I was there, which was well needed after sweating my ass off getting hit up by vendors, street performers, and pan handlers.
Had lunch again in Cafe Batavia. Food was not as good as 2 weeks before.
I checked out the toilet. Indeed weird ... one has to pee against that mirror
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It’s kind of amazing how many coffee shops are being opened. I imagine it’s one of these things you would start with as first steps in the F&B world. Easy to copy concept, machine can be leased.
Also, nobody wants to live in those big houses on busy roads anymore so often these get turned into coffee shops / eateries. With a parking chaos in front as result.
They also don’t really care about competition; if you look at a larger boulevard close by our house, there are coffee shops popping up like mushrooms; in one block there are three (3!) right next to each other.
And the big trend there is to have an outside area -which allows smoking- and live music. The latter is not so nice for the people in the kompleks behind those big streets.
Also, nobody wants to live in those big houses on busy roads anymore so often these get turned into coffee shops / eateries. With a parking chaos in front as result.
They also don’t really care about competition; if you look at a larger boulevard close by our house, there are coffee shops popping up like mushrooms; in one block there are three (3!) right next to each other.
And the big trend there is to have an outside area -which allows smoking- and live music. The latter is not so nice for the people in the kompleks behind those big streets.
Big houses turned into coffee shops? Can you provide some pictures?
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it's not something unpredictable. Millions Indonesians need and entitle to get fun; and as everybody aware, most of them earn not much and dont have luxury of 40 paid working days annual leaves. And for some or many people, spent few bucks by having selfies in the crowd of popular places could be part of the fun too; probably same or even more fun than other people spent thousands dollars and risking their life for some thing stupid (This was what my uncle told me when he knew we hiked Everest base camp and playing with sharks in red sea).If you want a stressful day .. go to the Kraton Yogya .. on a Saturday
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Try Rangunan on a weekend or holiday. OK, don't really. Weekdays are much more enjoyable.
A lot of families with kids in our hotel Marriot in Yogya.
Made managers aware that the atmosphere in the restaurant at breakfast hours looks like a 'kinder garden'. And ask them why there is no policy to separate the families with kids from the rest. Like there is already a policy to seperate the smokers from the non-smokers.
Made managers aware that the atmosphere in the restaurant at breakfast hours looks like a 'kinder garden'. And ask them why there is no policy to separate the families with kids from the rest. Like there is already a policy to seperate the smokers from the non-smokers.
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Is it because of the traffic congestion ?. I do not know the areas well, but I understand you travel to the beach, during the weekend where there are family excursion going to the same place at the same time. Possibly it is only one main road as well ?
If this was the case this could be avoided by travelling outside the busy hours such as very early in the morning, during the week but after the rush hour ??
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A two hour drive to this particular beach is not worth it. Yes, it was crowded. But I don't recommend it, because there is -besides taken a photo of the rocky beach- nothing than warungs, toko-toko and warteks. Also annoying 'professional' photographers who want to take your pictures. One can rent 'Bali' clothes and lots of local tourists sewa these cloths to take a picture to pretend they are in Bali
No cafe or restaurant like in Bali. Far from that.
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I am not going to re-locate to Yogya. I am positive about the traffic. Much less than Jakarta. Pollution is less too, but not sure how much. Living costs besides rent is also less. I think around 30 till 50 procent. Renting a house in a perumahan is around 90 up to 200 juta per year. Are the people here more 'ramah'? Not really.
In my opionion Yogya is just a big sl*m. Nothing special. So, why move?
In my opionion Yogya is just a big sl*m. Nothing special. So, why move?
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Do any hotels or other restaurants have such a policy?
