SKTT and KITAP

I took a close look at what Jakarta did give me and Bandar Lampung won't accept. Yep, I get more confused by the minute.
I was issued a Surat Keterangan Pindah Warga Negara Asing
The blocks that have an X in them are Anatr Provinsi under Klarifikasi
KK Saja under Jenis

On the bottom under Tembusan: (copy) it states
1. Kepala Dinas Kependudukan dan Pencatatan Sipil Kota Bandar Lampung. (Dinas Bandar Lampung)
2. Yang bersangkutan (interested parties)
3. Arsip (file)
To me it looks like a good document for a foreigner transferring. To them it has to say SKP-OA
 
Perhaps you can explain them that WNA = OA ?

You are free to try if you like. I am rather exhausted trying to explain as I'm sure Jakarta is. This group at the CatSip are imbeciles and have no idea what their job actually is. I can bet that if I offered him his favors more could get done and the bigger the favor, the more I get but I refuse to go down that road. My next trip is to the Top Dinas and then if needed, the Governor himself who seems to be never in but perhaps when i tell people I am going to wait he will appear.
 
Kantor Immigration Jakarta Pusat does not use SKTT, STM or SKPPS but only require "Surat keterangan domisili tempat tinggal"
 
Kantor Immigration Jakarta Pusat does not use SKTT, STM or SKPPS but only require "Surat keterangan domisili tempat tinggal"

Thank
but I'm talking catSip, not immigration. No problems with them what so ever.
 
Hurrah, got my E-KTP this morning, took two months, big discussion though which I couldn't follow appears wife's KTP is made from corrupt plastic, no idea what that's about, anyway it's valid two years
 
Hurrah, got my E-KTP this morning, took two months, big discussion though which I couldn't follow appears wife's KTP is made from corrupt plastic, no idea what that's about, anyway it's valid two years

Why only 2 years?

We, (my wife and a friend to help) seen new people today and are now rounding up documents he said he will need to get my KTP-OA. We shall see.
 
No idea FP, perhaps it a Tangerang thing, the ways of Indonesian beaurocracy work in mysterious ways, it also appears the plastic of my KTP is the correct plastic, my wife's is from corrupt sources, it a slightly different colour, load of bollocks really
 
As you guys/gals should know that e-ktp is the hand of KPK. There is hanky-panky on the making of the e-ktp. It should have a chip in it but like my wife hers I believe is just a plastic one. I believe Jakarta should have the correct one.
 
Hurrah, got my E-KTP this morning, took two months, big discussion though which I couldn't follow appears wife's KTP is made from corrupt plastic, no idea what that's about, anyway it's valid two years
Should all e-ktp be life time. How come you have e-ktp? are you WNI? If not we still issue with paper one right?
 
Here's my issue. I have been fighting with Bandar Lampung CatSip about what I need now that I have a KITAP. They screwed it up over two years ago and when I was got my last KITAS they said I needed a Surot Pindah from Jakarta Selatan so I could get my SKTT Card (they always gave me a paper one).
Years ago when I got my KITAP I only issue a SKTT(paper) and KK. Until now even I make SIM there is no issue. If not mistaken 3 year ago.Here in Cianjur.
 
Wow! I just realise that all this years I was given the wrong document for KITAP, IT should NOT be SKTT but KTP-OA base on "Kartu Keluarga (KK) dan Kartu Tanda Penduduk (KTP) Orang Asing disesuaikan dengan masa berlaku KITAP (Perda No 5/2011 Pasal 15)" I need to go to sipil sson to get the correct document. That is why the SIM was issue for 1 year.
 
Should all e-ktp be life time. How come you have e-ktp? are you WNI? If not we still issue with paper one right?
Originally I was told by immigration not to bother to apply for a KTP till next year, no idea why, so when I read here we are obliged to have a KTP, so I apply, my area is Tangerang, so I've got a nice new plastic E-KTP, it's Valid for two years, my Indonesian wife's is for life, me I really don't care, but possibly the reason my KITAP expires in two years, so maybe that's the reason.
The next laugh is our family KK shows that I'm a bachelor, also my daughter is still at school, no idea how they came to these conclusions
 
After digging futher here the law for it by the minster. Peraturan Menteri Dalam Negeri No. 69 tahun 2014 Pasal 9. This only active this year 2016.

Pasal 6


  1. Persyaratan dan tata cara penerbitan KTP Elektronik secara reguler bagi Penduduk Orang Asing yang memiliki Izin Tinggal Tetap yang belum memiliki KTP Elektronik

  1. Penduduk Orang Asing melapor kepada petugas di Dinas Kependudukan dan Pencatatan Sipil Kabupaten/Kota, dengan mengisi formulir permohonan dan membawa persyaratan berupa:
    1. Nomor Induk Kependudukan Nasional;
    2. Fotokopi Kartu Keluarga; dan
    3. Fotokopi Kartu Izin Tinggal Tetap;
Hope this help.
 
well well well. 2 and a half years of trying to get CatSip personnel to fix my SKTT and 2 and a half years of them not following the proper procedures. Now I need a KTP-OA and they want to issue a SKTT as a favor, for a price. Get documents they want. Wong ones. Travel back and forth to Jakarta a couples times, still want us to go again. Get documents that are not available to me from Jakarta and still want. ENOUGH

Formed a posse. Head, a SMA school teacher who speaks, reads, and writes perfect English. My wife to stand there when called upon. A niece of a high ranking CatSip officer with a different department, our driver who is a friend of the SMA teacher and seems to know where every place we need to go is located, and myself who is contributing hardly anything.

The niece contacts her Aunt and explains what I need and the problem people I was dealing with. Aunt says she knows that person and understands there would probably be problems. Aunt contacts Male Officer ahead of KTPs and conveys my needs. He said to come in and see him. Sent teacher in and she was given a list of things he required to get KTP-OA and KK. We had all the documents he required except he wanted a new domisili for me even though i had one already. My last one showed my sponsor, this new one just shows me. Any way, also wants a police report.

Headed to Lurah for a new domisili. had to first go to RT and then to area representative for property tax and get a copy of the BPP for our home. ???We rent... Doesn't matter, still have to have one. Go to RT, he is busy playing with his friend. His words. He will drop off later that evening. Go to Tax man, get a copy of the BPP and he tells us no other renter ever needed one. Still, gives it to us. Finished with yesterday because have to wait for RT. He came by last evening at 8. gave us a blank signed form. Like that was impossible when he was playing with his friend. No, he likes to come by and hang out at our house for an hour or more. OK, filled out the form ourselves after he left.

Start today early. Go to Lurah with everything they need. No, go to police first. OK, go to police. Sorry, not in today while three officers sat there talking with nothing else to do. Come back tomorrow at 9. Went to CatSip to clarify a couple of the demands for KTP-OA that Lurah confused us on. Seen lady in charge of the imbeciles I was dealing with. Rolls her eyes when their names mentioned and gives us the needed advise. OK, back to Lurah to argue. Officer that had made paperwork for us at another time was there now. Pak Lurah was even in now. Didn't need to go to police for Lurah purposes. Got the paperwork needed for CatSip. Lunch. All morning with 3.5 hours spent at Lurah. Have to wait till tomorrow now for police report. Sure, not required any more but just going to get what this guy said.

Tomorrow will go back to police and as long as we get the police report right away, we can drop off at catSip since they are open until noon on Saturdays for now.

What about all the documents I ran back and forth to Jakarta for? Never needed them for KITAP holder. What about the forms that are being still demanded from me? Nope, not needed for KITAP holder. What about this SKTT crap? Not for KITAP holder. Seems once I got my KITAP the people trying to cheat me and cover their mistakes by implying they were my mistakes are not even the people you see for the KTP-OA. They handle the people with KITAS. They were very well aware that I held a KITAP but still continued to play games with this they will do me favors if I do them favors.

So, hopefully I can turn everything into CatSip by tomorrow. If not, Monday and then wait. They said it would take some time with the back log they have. Don't care as long as it's coming. All the government people I have seen personally these past couple days when all this was being done. Only the RT if you count him as a government person. The rest of the team took care of everything else.
 
Regarding the e-KTP, I was told by my CatSip (Gresik) that the first KITAP is only eligible for the old style KTP. The reason being is that the e-KTP is valid forever, and so was told that I can only have an e-KTP when I get the second (forever) KITAP.

I went to get my KTP at the same time as my wife was being upgraded to e-KTP. And this was when I was told I couldn't yet get the e-KTP until I had the second KITAP. So until 2020 I am stuck with the paper KTP, which I laminated.

So as far as I am aware:

KITAS = SKTT

First KITAP = KTP

Second KITAP = e-KTP
 

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