Need a green card

[Aiverson]

Hey guys, any Americans here ?
Me and my wife want to move to the states, but we need a green card.
U know what I mean, if u got a number on mind and If it's affordable number lmk. If anyone or someone u know interested please hmu.

 

[HappyMan]

Hey guys, any Americans here ?
Me and my wife want to move to the states, but we need a green card.
U know what I mean, if u got a number on mind and If it's affordable number lmk. If anyone or someone u know interested please hmu.

I'm actually curious as to what you mean, but I understand why you aren't detailing it here.

Would have thought it was marriage for green card, but you are already married...

Guess I'll just stay curious.

 

[IndoTom]

This post is hilarious in a serious way.

 

[Aiverson]

I'm actually curious as to what you mean, but I understand why you aren't detailing it here.

Would have thought it was marriage for green card, but you are already married...

Guess I'll just stay curious.

I'm not registered my married yet, my bad didn't say it first.

 

[centurion]

No more green cards, you just got to Mexico and across the Rio Grande and you are in.

 

[fastpitch17]

Sure, we Americans would just love to serve some prison time for you. This is crazy. You are asking people to break the law. That us frowned upon in this forum.

 

[snpark]

Sure, we Americans would just love to serve some prison time for you. This is crazy. You are asking people to break the law. That us frowned upon in this forum.

Frowned but not forbidden. This is Indonesia after all hahahaha

 

[jukung11]

Silly me, I thought OP meant the investor visa. That only costs $1,000,000 (14,278,650,000 idr).

I do know Americans that have married foreigners with a bride price/dowry. I have seen rates as low as $35,000 and as high as $65,000. It averages around $50,000. It is usually women that get the lower price if they contribute domestic house work and sex to the marriage. For the marriage to be viewed as authentic in the eyes of the government, the couple usually is required to cohabitate. Regardless of gender, most of these types of marriages have the foreign spouse work and pay for half or most of the household expenses, such as rent, mortgage, utilities, and food in addition to the initial bride price/dowry. Additionally, since many of the foreign spouses cohabitate as a married couple with the American, any relationship the foreigner had prior to marriage tends to fall apart.

The problem is you need to find an American that has the income and/or wealth to sponsor a foreign spouse, is willing to risk the problems dealing with the U.S. government, is willing to forgo possible marriage and life plans with another partner, and is willing to sign a 10 year financial obligation to pay for the foreign spouse. The American is usually flagged by the state department and any subsequent marriage to another foreigner is usually more closely investigated, so it is a once in a lifetime deal for many.

 

[ChrisTex]

Sure, we Americans would just love to serve some prison time for you. This is crazy. You are asking people to break the law. That us frowned upon in this forum.

We can give him THE number- 1-900-CALL-ATT.

 

[Helpful Herbert]

Green Card was a great movie. The moral if I remember correctly was that you have to make sure to memorize what shampoo your sponsor uses.

 

[jukung11]

You can also apply for the diversity visa lottery.

Diversity Visa Program - Submit an Entry

travel.state.gov

It is not well publicized in Indonesia. To get an idea of statistics, in 2018 28,072 applied and 167 were granted, in 2017 27,806 applied and 115 were granted, in 2016 27,174 and 126 were granted. So you have around a .5% chance of getting a green card just by applying. I personally know 3 winners.

 

[fastpitch17]

The problem is you need to find an American that has the income and/or wealth to sponsor a foreign spouse, is willing to risk the problems dealing with the U.S. government,

He said, he and his wife. Don't think the US has gotten that liberal yet. No, if said dreamer above want to send me 50K, I will see what I can do. No garrantees, no refunds.

 

[atlantis]

@all users
I am unable to issue green cards but I sure gave him a red one.
Discussion can continue if you guys want to have fun discussing the OP, but it will be without him. Please refrain from soliciting or encouraging obvious illegal stuff. I have a bunch of red cards in my pocket for anyone tempted to ignore it.

 

[Puspawarna]

Gosh, atlantis, you ruined it for us Americans. There are so few of us on the forum ... maybe we could have all gotten rich.

 

[jukung11]

He said, he and his wife. Don't think the US has gotten that liberal yet. No, if said dreamer above want to send me 50K, I will see what I can do. No garrantees, no refunds.

If they could each find separate marriage partners that also practice an open marriage, it could work. I was thinking both him and his current partner would each have to pay. So double that number. I have not personally come across the practice since prior to the pandemic. Since a requirement is that both partners must have met in person prior to the engagement, pandemic shutdowns of travel have made that more difficult. The going rate is not exactly a secret. The figures were $50,000 - $70,000 in the years 2017 to 2019.

Nearly 100 Charged in Massive Marriage Fraud Scheme | USCIS

A total of 50 people are now in custody following the return of a 206-count indictment alleging varying roles in a large-scale marriage fraud scheme, announced U.S. Attorney Ryan K. Patrick along with Special Agent in Charge Mark Dawson of Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security...

www.uscis.gov

With current inflation, I would be expecting it closer to the $80,000 price now. Times 2 people would be $160,000.

If the original poster was red carded, does that mean he can't reply if he finds that an "affordable number"? Or do you think he was trying to find someone he could lowball?

The reality is that often only one person gets the greencard hoping to pick up the prior relationship later in life, but life does not usually work out that way. Both people from the prior relationship usually have to spend a minimum of 5 years apart with most of the time long distance separation with at least one in a marriage to another partner for most of that time. Sex, jealousy, and emotional involvement in other relationships usually occurs in most people during the time apart and the prior relationship often doesn't restart.

An interesting note, that if the bride price/dowry marriage crosses into the fraudulent realm, the statute of limitations for most federal crimes is 5 years, but denaturalization has an unlimited statute of limitations. So the original American citizen partner can blow the whistle on the former foreign spouse and the formally foreign spouse can still be denaturalized and deported for life. There is also no guarantee to court appointed counsel, because it is a civil not criminal case.

The Department of Justice Creates Section Dedicated to Denaturalization Cases

The Department of Justice today announced the creation of a section dedicated to investigating and litigating revocation of naturalization. The Denaturalization Section will join the existing sections within the Civil Division’s Office of Immigration Litigation—the District Court Section and the...

www.justice.gov

Do you think I have been discouraging for OP?

 

[fastpitch17]

Do you think I have been discouraging for OP?

He posted it to begin with so probably not.

Imagine, a guy takes him up on it. Marries his wife. Spends a bundle on getting her approved and into the US. Agreement would be for 5 years, then divorce.

What if, a kid ends up getting produced? What if she fights him in the divorce for a settlement even at 50/50? Depending on the state, what if she counter sues for spouses support? What if she had a disease show up and you had to cover it or just start paying additional insurance? What if the original husband decides he no longer wants her back? What if she figures out that the American is a lot more satisfying than the original and wants to stay for the play? That all could cost you more than the 80 grand you got for the deal. Then again, since she already shown that she would screw anyone, perhaps the American could put her to work on the street or in a club to recoup the added cost.

How do you know she any good at cooking, cleaning, sex? Does one get a trial period of 30 days before commitment? I would insist. Get the cash up front and make sure there are no refunds.

I wonder what nationality the OP is and just where an American would be dealing with? Craziest thing I have ever seen asked here or in any forum here.

 

[HappyMan]

I had someone suggest a marriage like this to me when I was young and living in the UK on an expired visa. It was a way for me to stick around and get a legit job. There wasn't any mention of money either, just a kind friend of my "found family" who wanted to help me out. Somehow I thought that was what most green card marriages were, rather than a really strange business.

 

[ChrisTex]

I had some guys I worked with in the US back in 2004 suggest I do this as a way to make money and maybe fall in love. What they said was sometimes, the arrangement does lead the parties to actually fall in love. Other times it is strictly business. They also said immigration if they suspect it is not a legit marriage, will hold two interviews at the same time and ask questions like what type of perfume, shower products, etc...does the spouse use.

 

[jukung11]

How do you know she any good at cooking, cleaning, sex? Does one get a trial period of 30 days before commitment?

90 day fiancé visa not 30. Money is always upfront.

 

[Nimbus]

I’ve known a couple in USA that went this route, each marrying a citizen for pay. They even formally divorced each other in order to marry their paid spouse. I don’t know how they pulled it off, but they successfully got the coveted card. It’s not something I would do nor recommend, but it happens.

I’m grateful that I’ve never been in such a desperate situation. Living without papers for a decade or more surely wears down on people.