They are the same. Just different names depending on the country. Like X-Trail or Rogue, Pajero or Montero, Fusion or Mondeo, Yaris or Vios or Belta, …Is that for all the HRV or only that Vezel model?
I can say the exact opposite about our BRV. We bought it new and it has been a great car 5 years later. 2 batteries, a set of tires and a window switch is all we have needed so far, other than oil changes, etc. It could die tomorrow but so far, it has been great. Especially considering the price. Still feels really solid even on a bad road.
I love this thread! Perfect place to ask for advice.
So I need a new car (well second hand probably). It needs to have the following characteristics:
- somewhat modern (last car was a 2012 VW Golf TSI, so looking for something 5yo tops)
- must be comfortable, so suspensions are important (no straight rear axle)
- does not have to be huge as it's mostly my wife and me
- will mostly be driven by my wife as I wfh. Probably won't be used for commuting anyway.
- a bit of ground clearance for the odd camping trip (no need for full on awd or 4x4)
- around 200jt (can push to 250 for the hidden gem)
I like the Mazda CX-3 and Hyundai Kona. Also like the new HR-V but a bit out of price range. These would be great for my wife.
I like Subarus and looked at XV and Forester but they are starting to be a bit old. And this is mostly to please me (gimme that 2.5L Turbo engine).
Any recommendations?
Petrol Kona is not sold anymore in Indonesia, just Europe and US, probably because it competes with much cheaper KIA (sold more expensive in Indonesia) and Hyundai Creta,made for the local market.I love this thread! Perfect place to ask for advice.
So I need a new car (well second hand probably). It needs to have the following characteristics:
- somewhat modern (last car was a 2012 VW Golf TSI, so looking for something 5yo tops)
- must be comfortable, so suspensions are important (no straight rear axle)
- does not have to be huge as it's mostly my wife and me
- will mostly be driven by my wife as I wfh. Probably won't be used for commuting anyway.
- a bit of ground clearance for the odd camping trip (no need for full on awd or 4x4)
- around 200jt (can push to 250 for the hidden gem)
I like the Mazda CX-3 and Hyundai Kona. Also like the new HR-V but a bit out of price range. These would be great for my wife.
I like Subarus and looked at XV and Forester but they are starting to be a bit old. And this is mostly to please me (gimme that 2.5L Turbo engine).
Any recommendations?
If they did a sweep and pulled over every Bentley, Rolls, Lambo, Ferrari etc.... in Jakarta over the course of a month I am sure that a very high % of them don't have the proper paperwork, taxes, not registered under the real owner and other problems. I am also sure if they investigated how the owner came up with funds for the car, the majority would be through corruption. The problem with this, and the reason it will never happen, is that a large percentage of the owner's of these types of cars are politicians, police, military and other government officials.In the news about S Dewi's suami KPK etc, they confiscated a Mini Cooper and a RR - turns out that he has TWO, both costing several hundred thousand $ each
They mentioned he hadn't paid the tax
For ONE Rolls Royce EVERY YEAR his tax is 99juta - 100million a year EVERY year just for one car on top of the billions to buy it, and he has 2? Why (well I mean I guess they were free if he was taking the money etc)
But such an impractical car here but the tax is crazy
Not just to buy it but then every year on top. The mind boggles of their stupidity
When I worked for a billionaire in Jersey (a tax haven island) he had an ex demo Bentley in a garage gathering dust and a silver gull wing mercedes (McQueen?) but his daily car was a bright yellow VW beetle called Noddy
He didn't waste money poncing about Jersey at 20mph in a fancy car
Has to be new?
2nd hand HRV would be good
Or brand new 200jt?
Try the Daihatsu version of the Rush (Terios?)
Identical apart from the Toyota badge
And for 200 don't knock some of those Chinese things. Wulang etc
As long as the engine is 1.6 + you will be ok for hills
Can seat 5/ 7. A/c in the back with actually vents and switches. Even airbags.
Anyway many people have asked the same question so is in the previous pages for sure
If I read your requests, a subcompact SUV or crossover might make sense. I don’t see why a three row people mover, even if everybody gets one, would be an interesting choice.
There we have:
- Nissan Magnite. Now 4 years in the market. They wanted to position it as a Datsun at first before that brand was dismantled, so that gives you an idea about the level of luxury and safety equipment. It has a 1 liter engine. At the high end of your budget. A bit more and you’d have a 2021 Kicks e-Power, which is somewhat bigger and which has an interesting drive train (sequential hybrid).
- Suzuki Grand Vitara. This 1,5 liter mild hybrid exists one year in Indonesia. Definitely interesting quality wise since it’s a system developed by Toyota. Price will be a problem since even 2nd hands are still 315 juta and upwards. There are obviously smaller Suzuki’s but unlike in Europe, the safety features seem to be subpar in India and Indonesia. Also, the traffic here makes you wonder how safe you are in a ‘giant’ Suzuki.
- Daihatsu Rocky. There are two engine versions available; a 1,2 liter atmospheric and a 1 liter turbo. The latter is more expensive and in this climate a turbo can overheat rather easily. The Raize is the Toyota version. These cars are also involved in the current scandal*
Some other considerations:
In your price range, a HR-V would have to be from 2018 or so. Six years is rather old for a car here. The same applies to a CX-3 btw, perhaps that one would even have to be older. Don’t forget it’s in fact based on a Mazda 2. Pricewise a Kona is even less interesting.
An Indonesian Yaris Cross is somewhat larger than its extremely popular European counterpart and in fact a very different car. It’s based on a new Daihatsu platform. The price is very steep.
I would not touch a Subaru anymore. You might remember the import tax issues and the cars that stood idle for years. You don’t want such a 2nd hand. And currently the Indonesian dealership network still has not recovered.
* There is quite a scandal around Daihatsu (and thus Toyota) currently, they have been cheating on safety tests. (Which does not automatically mean you can’t trust the cars, but still). The amazing thing is that the organization in Indonesia is behaving like an ostrich and wants to avoid recalls.
Petrol Kona is not sold anymore in Indonesia, just Europe and US, probably because it competes with much cheaper KIA (sold more expensive in Indonesia) and Hyundai Creta,made for the local market.
Great car, preety fast, fuel efficient and sporty, but had to change the shock absorbers at 60.000, a 9 million cost,
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HR-V is definitely on the top of the list.
I thought the HRV was cool.
There are obviously smaller Suzuki’s but unlike in Europe, the safety features seem to be subpar in India and Indonesia. Also, the traffic here makes you wonder how safe you are in a ‘giant’ Suzuki.
Had a 1987 Chevrolet Sprint Turbo that was based on the Suzuki Swift of that era. Was a super fun car and made me a lot of money showing people that it would actually outrun their "sports" cars at the time. It got over 40 MPG on top of being a fun little car. I sold it with over 100,000 miles on the odometer but it was still running great. It wasn't much to look at but a great small car.Somebody asked my opinion about a Suzuki Swift of 2015. It had 98K km on the odometer. For his daughter.
First of all, the Swift is not sold anymore in Indonesia. And in fact this car was from an older generation, over here the 2010-2014 model of the rest of the world was still continued afterwards (in 2015). Instead of a 1,2, they put a 1,4 liter engine under the hood and face-lifted the dashboard.
Something else, is that of course the odometer reading is no coincidence and it’s manipulated; there’s a psychological threshold for many people at 100.000 km. Add to that that the price of 148 juta is double (!) the second hand price in Western Europe and only 30 juta less than the sticker price at the time.
Last but not least Suzuki saves money on the safety features for the markets in South and East Asia. So a small Suzuki in Europe is ’more safe’ than one ever here or in India or so (over there I would buy an Ignis but here…).
So I advised against it.
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