Hi, thanks for clarification. When I first got my LIFETIME KITAP(second kitap), the officer told me I only need to report with little amount of processing fee (uang kopi). But after 4 years the staffs in office had change, I suspected the officer I met recently don't really know the procedures. I might want to email my letter and documents to the HQ in Jkt.
INFORMATION AND COMMUNITY FOR EXPATS IN INDONESIA
KITAP - The "Unlimited" One
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Yes.
Not many reports until now so expect that some immigration offices will need additional explaining. If front desk officers don't know what are you talking about, ask for their superior officer.
It is October 2021 now.
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Getting confused here. Nieco, are you on your first or second kitap. Does your kitap have an expite date or report by date listed on the front?
UU 6 2011:
There are no fees for reporting after you have your 'lifetime' KITAP. That's one of the most black and white laws I've seen in Indonesia.
(MERP is separate and still has a fee even when on 'lifetime' KITAP, but my recollection is that you are not required to have MERP, you may let it expire during periods you will not be traveling out of the country.)
There are no fees for reporting after you have your 'lifetime' KITAP. That's one of the most black and white laws I've seen in Indonesia.
(MERP is separate and still has a fee even when on 'lifetime' KITAP, but my recollection is that you are not required to have MERP, you may let it expire during periods you will not be traveling out of the country.)
Second KITAP. And have the Date to report on my card. Here is the approval letter of my second/ LIFETIME KITAP.
Second KITAP. And have the Date to report on my card. Here is the approval letter of my second/ LIFETIME KITAPView attachment 2256
yeah, I saw the same article online. FYI MERP is still required as long as you are holding a Visa to stay here.
This is incorrect but probably won't affect most people.
On a KITAS you're automatically paying and receiving both for KITAS and MERP each time. They expire at the same time and get renewed together. So you end up with a MERP for the whole time you are on a KITAS.
On a KITAP, you automatically get a 2-year MERP. However, the KITAP is valid for 5-years. There is no requirement that the MERP be extended when it expires. So if you are certain that you will not need to leave Indonesia on short notice, then there is no need to extend MERP. On the other hand, as the MERP procedure is easy
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That matches my recollection, and a brief review of UU 6 2011 mentions nothing of a requirement to maintain a MERP. However, can you provide any support for saying the MERP is free? The fees are clearly listed and I haven't seen any exception for those on 'lifetime' KITAP.
Duh, sorry, yeah it's not free...got it confused with EPO being free.
For my last KITAP, I didn't get the 3rd MERP (only 2 x 2 years, so one year in Indonesia without MERP), and it was not an issue.
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When I got my KITAP immigration told me I did not need to get a MERP. I always keep a MERP simply because if there is an emergency back home, I probably would be wasting time trying to get a MERP then.
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Glad to see we have the same calendar. Mine too says that we are October 2021.
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My report was so simple and straightforward that I barely recall it. It has been done in just a few days days and I think a a couple of visit only for the report itself. Got a very friendly and un-formal interview with the boss of kanim and a kasi and for some reason got offered a boxed nasgor and a suspicious pastry by some girls of the office, that I politely refused and paused with the girls of the office for a few pictures.
The only "difficulty" has been in fact that I had to go through a mutasi procedure prior to the report since my new passport had not been stamped the the ITAP. The mutasi procedure took two visit, 1 at 11 am, then a second one the following day to pick up my passport and start the report procedure.
All the procedure has been handled by young immigration officers, all of them knowing exactly what they were doing.
The old guard, which are usually the one the troubles come from, know me and the fact it's pointless to expect doi roko or anything else. they came to great me, had a polite talk and stayed away from my business.
All in all a very pleasant experience.
The only "difficulty" has been in fact that I had to go through a mutasi procedure prior to the report since my new passport had not been stamped the the ITAP. The mutasi procedure took two visit, 1 at 11 am, then a second one the following day to pick up my passport and start the report procedure.
All the procedure has been handled by young immigration officers, all of them knowing exactly what they were doing.
The old guard, which are usually the one the troubles come from, know me and the fact it's pointless to expect doi roko or anything else. they came to great me, had a polite talk and stayed away from my business.
All in all a very pleasant experience.
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I looked into the WA chat group we have with my fellow forum mods and found these messages from me at the time:
"Free Report done. Started on March 24th with a Mutasi paspor since my ITAP extension cap was in another passport and not reported in the new one. Procedure finished on March 29th, and passport available since the 30th but didn't have time to stop by Imigrasi. Only two visit, no more than 30 minutes each. Imigrasi is really miles away of what it once was."
"Paid Rp 1,750.000 for an unusuful MERP but they didn't asked me my opinion about it. Didn't pay for the foto/sidik jari which is a difference with the ITAP procedure. Also they gave me back my old, now (soon to be) expired KITAP and didn't issue a new KITAP. Just the cap in passport."
"They insisted for the girls to be taken in pictures with me in the kantor. Don't know why and didn't ask. Perhaps a side effect of my recent keto diet, albeit I've lost only a 3 kilo and don't look anywhere close to my 30's yet,"
"Don't be lazy like me and directly do the mutasi paspor procedure when you have the new passport in hand. It "delayed" me 1 day in my application."
"yes. takes only a few minutes to fill the form and you can get back your passport the day after and straight submit the application for extension so that you don't waste time and add more visits."
"My 2 (3 with the mutasi) visits have been pretty nice. I did nothing online, they did. I just came for the mutasi, Juliana came the day after to pick up pasport and submit the application. They WA me to come for the foto/sidik jari and WA again 2 days later to kindly ask me to come pick up my passport."
"Free Report done. Started on March 24th with a Mutasi paspor since my ITAP extension cap was in another passport and not reported in the new one. Procedure finished on March 29th, and passport available since the 30th but didn't have time to stop by Imigrasi. Only two visit, no more than 30 minutes each. Imigrasi is really miles away of what it once was."
"Paid Rp 1,750.000 for an unusuful MERP but they didn't asked me my opinion about it. Didn't pay for the foto/sidik jari which is a difference with the ITAP procedure. Also they gave me back my old, now (soon to be) expired KITAP and didn't issue a new KITAP. Just the cap in passport."
"They insisted for the girls to be taken in pictures with me in the kantor. Don't know why and didn't ask. Perhaps a side effect of my recent keto diet, albeit I've lost only a 3 kilo and don't look anywhere close to my 30's yet,"
"Don't be lazy like me and directly do the mutasi paspor procedure when you have the new passport in hand. It "delayed" me 1 day in my application."
"yes. takes only a few minutes to fill the form and you can get back your passport the day after and straight submit the application for extension so that you don't waste time and add more visits."
"My 2 (3 with the mutasi) visits have been pretty nice. I did nothing online, they did. I just came for the mutasi, Juliana came the day after to pick up pasport and submit the application. They WA me to come for the foto/sidik jari and WA again 2 days later to kindly ask me to come pick up my passport."
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So you didn't have to go to other offices like Kantor Wilayah or central immigration in Jakarta, and take some surat from one to the other?
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Nope. Just as I said. Went there only twice for the report procedure and all the communication of documents to KanWil and DitJenIm has been done by the people of my KanIm.
I rarely visit nor contribute to such forums anymore, so it is indeed interesting to compare notes with other expats who hold lifetime KITAP. I was prompted to check-in with this forum as I just recently acquired my lifetime KITAP. The only thing of substance I can add to what in main exists in this thread is the following: Make sure you visit your local immigration office in a timely fashion when reporting to update your lifetime KITAP. I was told by immigration that if a lifetime KITAP holder is late in reporting, they will be forced to have paperwork sent to Dirjen in Jakarta.
BUT One more thing: Certainly communications online have begun to revolutionize Indonesian bureaucracy, and monitoring the progress of a KITAP application can now, in part be done through Instagram. Of course, this information was not given me by immigration, and through research I discovered it. If you have an application in progress at Dirjen itself, you can visit the following link:
You will need your No. Permohanan and passport number in order to sign-in. Once signed in you can download and print a Perdim, which is a one page copy of your short form application you filled in at your local immigration office. This is proof your application has reachec Dirjen and is in process. If your application is under process, the site will state:
Status Permohonan: DI DALAM PROSES
If the process is completed:
Status Permohonan: SELESAI
If your paperwork has not yet made its way from your local immigration and KANWIL offices to Dirjen, I doubt you would be able to sign in. This at least lets you know if your application has made its way to Jakarta.
MOST VALUABLE: What if you need to contact the appropriate visa officer at Dirjen, Jakarta (like I did)? Try the following for KITAP:
WHATSAPP: +62 821-1295-3298 / Layanan Informasi Resmi Direktorat Izin Tinggal Keimigrasian
I had been waiting too long for the approval- my original KITAP had already expired. The visa official I contacted at this number actually sent me by email an official surat stating I had had my application approved. My local office wasn't even aware (apparently) of my approval status. I ended up sending the Kepala of the local office this surat. He definitely had egg on his face and was shocked. I take this phone number to be extremely valuable.
BUT One more thing: Certainly communications online have begun to revolutionize Indonesian bureaucracy, and monitoring the progress of a KITAP application can now, in part be done through Instagram. Of course, this information was not given me by immigration, and through research I discovered it. If you have an application in progress at Dirjen itself, you can visit the following link:
You will need your No. Permohanan and passport number in order to sign-in. Once signed in you can download and print a Perdim, which is a one page copy of your short form application you filled in at your local immigration office. This is proof your application has reachec Dirjen and is in process. If your application is under process, the site will state:
Status Permohonan: DI DALAM PROSES
If the process is completed:
Status Permohonan: SELESAI
If your paperwork has not yet made its way from your local immigration and KANWIL offices to Dirjen, I doubt you would be able to sign in. This at least lets you know if your application has made its way to Jakarta.
MOST VALUABLE: What if you need to contact the appropriate visa officer at Dirjen, Jakarta (like I did)? Try the following for KITAP:
WHATSAPP: +62 821-1295-3298 / Layanan Informasi Resmi Direktorat Izin Tinggal Keimigrasian
I had been waiting too long for the approval- my original KITAP had already expired. The visa official I contacted at this number actually sent me by email an official surat stating I had had my application approved. My local office wasn't even aware (apparently) of my approval status. I ended up sending the Kepala of the local office this surat. He definitely had egg on his face and was shocked. I take this phone number to be extremely valuable.
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Can anybody here help me. I have my second KITAP, but my MERP has expired. I am currently in the UK AND WANT TO TRAVEL to Indonesia soon. Do I need a visa to enter Indonesia?
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If he does that Chris, he will lose his KITAP for sure. Now, it’s perhaps salvageable by trying to get the MERP active again. Via a KBRI (Indonesian embassy or consulate) or the sponsor if (s)he’s still in Indonesia or via a friend here or so… there are threads about it.
