'Hizbut Tahrir Indonesia' Rallies for Its Caliphate

The challenge in Indonesia lies in the fact that a significant number of individuals and groups continue to push for the implementation of Sharia Law, driven either by religious conviction or political motives. These groups persist in their efforts and are backed by a grass-roots base that has been indoctrinated, with the potential to expand further. They even provoke to change the constitution and the national symbol of Indonesia. It's important to remember that Aceh Province has already implemented Sharia Law and it does not stop there but keep moving forward. Also, think back to the discussions in this forum a few years ago, many believed laws criminalising premarital sex and cohabitation would never pass in Indonesia, yet they did just months later.

Take another example of interfaith marriages; if one partner changes their religion solely to obtain a marriage certificate and then reverts to their original faith afterward, they could be at risk of facing blasphemy charges. In the past, several prominent individuals were still able to marry across religious lines without facing such legal consequences.

Numerous grassroots movements have been shaping young minds from an early stage. Take, for instance, the extensive network of boarding schools, pesantren, and madrasas spread throughout the country. The majority of these institutions receive significant funding from the government, essentially from taxpayers. Wouldn't it be more beneficial if resources were directed toward general education, emphasising academic development over religious instruction? A broader focus would help children become more tolerant and adaptable, rather than narrowly centred on one religious viewpoint.

Many students attending these boarding schools, pesantren, and madrasas come from underprivileged backgrounds, making them more vulnerable to indoctrination. Additionally, only a small fraction of their graduates manage to get into top state universities in Indonesia, and when they do, it’s often due to political quotas that allow them admission without going through the standard highly competitive entrance exams.

In contrast, numerous other schools backed by private charities, foundations, other religious organisations despite refraining from religious indoctrination are able to operate with limited government funding but could still produce top graduates. These schools consistently rank among the highest-performing institutions in Indonesia. Many of their graduates gain admission to top state universities through standard competitive entrance exams. Some even achieve medals in the International Physics Olympiad or receive scholarships to attend top tier universities abroad.
 
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If people remain complacent and allow this ideology to advance unchallenged, pork products might disappear from the market in the future. This would affect not only fans of Balinese babi guling and those who rely on pork as a staple protein such as Indonesian Chinese and Southeast Asian communities in Indonesia but also those who enjoy deli meats, cold cuts, charcuterie, and similar foods frequently discussed in the forum. This is just one of many examples, and it's still unclear whether the mayor bow to pressure from religious extremists, politicians or if the business owner has actually violated any laws. In the video clip it does not explain which law has been violated. Also why do the mayor need to get directly involved in the closing of these pig farm like this if not for political gain ?

Although Jambi province in Indonesia is predominantly Muslim, that does not justify the suppression of minority groups or the destruction of livelihoods for those who depend on the pork trade, farms for their household income.


Once again please do not be too sure that it will never happen in Indonesia. The video clip above is just one of many examples. Also we have seen similar things occur in the past such as Shariah Law in Aceh province in Indonesia, sex before marriage, co-habitation law.
 
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If people remain complacent and allow this ideology to advance unchallenged, pork products might disappear from the market in the future. This would affect not only fans of Balinese babi guling and those who rely on pork as a staple protein such as Indonesian Chinese and Southeast Asian communities in Indonesia but also those who enjoy deli meats, cold cuts, charcuterie, and similar foods frequently discussed in the forum. This is just one of many examples, and it's still unclear whether the mayor bow to pressure from religious extremists, politicians or if the business owner has actually violated any laws. In the video clip it does not explain which law has been violated. Also why do the mayor need to get directly involved in the closing of these pig farm like this if not for political gain ?

Although Jambi province in Indonesia is predominantly Muslim, that does not justify the suppression of minority groups or the destruction of livelihoods for those who depend on the pork trade, farms for their household income.


Once again please do not be so confident that it will never happen in Indonesia. We have seen similar things occur in the past such as Aceh province in Indonesia, sex before marriage, co-habitation law.
I have to admit that this is an argument I would have never predicted. With all the issues brought about by a change to Sharia Law, the loss of access to pork seems to be one of the least things to worry about.
 
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Plenty other places on earth with nice weather, beaches and pretty women !
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If people remain complacent and allow this ideology to advance unchallenged, pork products might disappear from the market in the future. This would affect not only fans of Balinese babi guling and those who rely on pork as a staple protein such as Indonesian Chinese and Southeast Asian communities in Indonesia but also those who enjoy deli meats, cold cuts, charcuterie, and similar foods frequently discussed in the forum. This is just one of many examples, and it's still unclear whether the mayor bow to pressure from religious extremists, politicians or if the business owner has actually violated any laws. In the video clip it does not explain which law has been violated. Also why do the mayor need to get directly involved in the closing of these pig farm like this if not for political gain ?

Although Jambi province in Indonesia is predominantly Muslim, that does not justify the suppression of minority groups or the destruction of livelihoods for those who depend on the pork trade, farms for their household income.


Once again please do not be too sure that it will never happen in Indonesia. The video clip above is just one of many examples. Also we have seen similar things occur in the past such as Shariah Law in Aceh province in Indonesia, sex before marriage, co-habitation law.
I haven’t been keeping up with such things lately. Is there really a movement with significant popular and financial support that has at least a moderate chance to accomplish what you’re worried about? Or are the complaints maybe based in a professional victimhood mentality?
You mention the law about sex outside marriage. We know the process to trigger arrests is very restricted. Has the law had a meaningful impact on people’s behavior?
If we want to compare Catholic schools with pesantren we need to cover also things like history, funding and student demographics.
Aceh’s a special case. I guess you know the story of how and when they ended up with Sharia. What do you expect Aceh’s application of Sharia to lead to elsewhere?
 
I haven’t been keeping up with such things lately. Is there really a movement with significant popular and financial support that has at least a moderate chance to accomplish what you’re worried about? Or are the complaints maybe based in a professional victimhood mentality?
You mention the law about sex outside marriage. We know the process to trigger arrests is very restricted. Has the law had a meaningful impact on people’s behavior?
If we want to compare Catholic schools with pesantren we need to cover also things like history, funding and student demographics.
Aceh’s a special case. I guess you know the story of how and when they ended up with Sharia. What do you expect Aceh’s application of Sharia to lead to elsewhere?

My argument is clearly stated in the post #21:

Persistent Advocacy:
Strong religious and political groups continue to this date to push for Sharia Law, backed by grass roots supporters who have been systematically indoctrinated. These movements are not just symbolic they aim to influence constitutional changes (UUD45) and reshape national identity (Garuda Pancasila), the Indonesia’s foundational symbols.

Precedents:
The successful implementation of Sharia Law in Aceh Province serves as a model and stepping stone. Also past scepticism about laws criminalising premarital sex and cohabitation was proven wrong when such laws were passed, indicating a broader shift toward conservative legal norms.

Certain Education as a grass root and Tool for Indoctrination:
A vast network of religious schools (pesantren and madrasas), heavily funded by the government, plays a key role in shaping grass roots of young minds with a narrow religious focus. These institutions often serve underprivileged, deprived children who are more susceptible to ideological influence and less exposed to diverse world-views. Graduates of this certain religious schools rarely succeed in competitive academic environments such as gaining entry to top state universities through standard competitive entrance exams, be part of Indonesian team to take part in the International Physics Olympiad or receive scholarships from Indonesian government and/or foreign government, NGOs, to attend top tier universities abroad. If they received such things, it is mainly based on political quota rather than competitive base. The existence of grass roots, state’s financial and political support for certain religious schooling and indirect endorsement of conservative norms contributes to a systemic shift that enables and accelerates the gradual spread of Sharia-based governance.

Erosion of Religious Pluralism:
Legal developments are now making interfaith marriage increasingly difficult is another step forward. People who convert religions solely to marry and later revert could face blasphemy charges, something that wasn't previously enforced, signalling a tightening of religious influence in the law.

In conclusion, Sharia Law could be more widely implemented in Indonesia due to a combination of political will, legal precedents, grass roots indoctrination, and state-supported religious education. Without a course correction toward more pluralistic and academically focused education, the precedent toward the implementation of Sharia Law and society may continue. Given the steady progress and growing grass roots support, it raises an important question: if this trajectory continues unchecked, where will it ultimately lead?

Also, do not forget the discussions in this forum a few years ago, many believed laws criminalising premarital sex and cohabitation would never pass in Indonesia, yet they did just months later. You know who you are.

In reality, people who often say "it is a special case or I'm special" are frequently the ones who misjudge situations and end up facing the downfall. Think about those who think they are special in areas like gambling, risky investments, and trading.
 
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My argument is clearly stated in the post #21:

Persistent Advocacy:
Strong religious and political groups continue to this date to push for Sharia Law, backed by grass roots supporters who have been systematically indoctrinated. These movements are not just symbolic they aim to influence constitutional changes (UUD45) and reshape national identity (Garuda Pancasila), the Indonesia’s foundational symbols.
I haven't heard of anything along those lines for quite a while but of course I may have missed some news. Who are those groups and what are they doing?
Precedents:
The successful implementation of Sharia Law in Aceh Province serves as a model and stepping stone. Also past scepticism about laws criminalising premarital sex and cohabitation was proven wrong when such laws were passed, indicating a broader shift toward conservative legal norms.
If you say that Aceh is a model and stepping stone then I was wrong, you don't know how Aceh came to have Sharia law. Or could you explain how a years long really brutal war followed by a huge natural disaster is a model that can be applied elsewhere?
Certain Education as a grass root and Tool for Indoctrination:
A vast network of religious schools (pesantren and madrasas), heavily funded by the government, plays a key role in shaping young minds with a narrow religious focus. These institutions often serve underprivileged, deprived children who are more susceptible to ideological influence and less exposed to diverse world-views. Graduates of this certain religious schools rarely succeed in competitive academic environments such as gaining entry to top state universities through standard competitive entrance exams, be part of Indonesian team to take part in the International Physics Olympiad or receive scholarships from Indonesian government and/or foreign government, NGOs, to attend top tier universities abroad. If they received such things, it is mainly based on political quota rather than competitive base. The state’s financial and political support for certain religious schooling and indirect endorsement of conservative norms contributes to a systemic shift that enables and accelerates the gradual spread of Sharia-based governance.
You're just repeating yourself again. Where's the consideration of history, funding and resources, student demographics and other factors in your comparison of education providers? Maybe that's not in your source?
Erosion of Religious Pluralism:
Legal developments are now making interfaith marriage increasingly difficult is another step forward. People who convert religions solely to marry and later revert could face blasphemy charges, something that wasn't previously enforced, signalling a tightening of religious influence in the law.
That could be a problem. Has it happened? Is there an available analysis by a legal scholar to shed more light on the issue?
In conclusion, Sharia Law could be more widely implemented in Indonesia due to a combination of political will, legal precedents, grass roots indoctrination, and state-supported religious education. Without a course correction toward more pluralistic and academically focused education, the precedent toward the implementation of Sharia Law and society may continue.
Where did I see that before? Oh yeah, right here. Why should a reasonable person believe it's likely? Without supporting information it just sounds like fearmongering.
Also, do not forget the discussions in this forum a few years ago, many believed laws criminalising premarital sex and cohabitation would never pass in Indonesia, yet they did just months later. You know who you are.
It's funny you mention that. At the risk of being redundant myself, we know the process to trigger arrests under that law is very restrictive. Has the law had a real impact on people’s behavior?
 
If you say that Aceh is a model and stepping stone then I was wrong, you don't know how Aceh came to have Sharia law. Or could you explain how a years long really brutal war followed by a huge natural disaster is a model that can be applied elsewhere?
If you think it all started with Aceh wanting independence from Indonesia and a tsunami, you are completely wrong. The tsunami in fact made them rich and improved their infrastructure tremendously.

Atjeh has always been a very difficult area. The sultanate was one of the first areas of current Indonesia that became Islamic.

Not only that, it has always been a thorn in the flesh of the British and the Dutch because of all the pirates it harbored. It jeopardized business so something needed to be done. And last but not least there were quite some natural resources as oil and gas which was obviously interesting.

So then you got a bit of a mix between modern day Somalia and the Houthi rebels in Yemen. It took -if I’m not mistaken- approximately 10 wars and armed conflicts over multiple decades for the Dutch to suppress the resistance. And it was still simmering. The colonization by the Dutch was relatively recent. And even after WW2 they did not come back.

The autonomy and allowing of regional regulations is just the Indonesian government giving in and their concession without losing the region altogether. And now you have one of the most intolerant areas in South East Asia.
 
The autonomy and allowing of regional regulations is just the Indonesian government giving in and their concession without losing the region altogether. And now you have one of the most intolerant areas in South East Asia.
Most of the story that you linked is just the locals disagreeing with the ranking. Not sure how much credit I give a local Jakarta think tank to give an unbiased and fair assessment on another region.
 
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If you think it all started with Aceh wanting independence from Indonesia and a tsunami, you are completely wrong. The tsunami in fact made them rich and improved their infrastructure tremendously.

Atjeh has always been a very difficult area. The sultanate was one of the first areas of current Indonesia that became Islamic.

Not only that, it has always been a thorn in the flesh of the British and the Dutch because of all the pirates it harbored. It jeopardized business so something needed to be done. And last but not least there were quite some natural resources as oil and gas which was obviously interesting.

So then you got a bit of a mix between modern day Somalia and the Houthi rebels in Yemen. It took -if I’m not mistaken- approximately 10 wars and armed conflicts over multiple decades for the Dutch to suppress the resistance. And it was still simmering. The colonization by the Dutch was relatively recent. And even after WW2 they did not come back.

The autonomy and allowing of regional regulations is just the Indonesian government giving in and their concession without losing the region altogether. And now you have one of the most intolerant areas in South East Asia.
I didn't comment on how it started. I was refuting the notion that how Aceh got Sharia can be a model and stepping stone for other regions. Remember that it was offered as a sweetener during discussions to end 30 years of war, after the tsunami.
 
I haven't heard of anything along those lines for quite a while but of course I may have missed some news. Who are those groups and what are they doing?
I wonder whether you read the post #1 and the title of this thread as well as the attachment before asking this question. Hizbut Tahrir Indonesia' Rallies for Its Caliphate (khilafah) is the title of this thread. Other proponent of Caliphate (khilafah) is Majelis Mujahidin Indonesia (MMI), Jamaah Ansharut Daulah (JAD), FPI (to some extends in the past)

Also do not forget The Justice and Development Party (PKS), a political party in Indonesia, has publicly advocated for the implementation of Islamic law, specifically Sharia law in Indonesia.

In the past, there have also been multiple attempts to promote changes targeting the UUD 1945 and to reshape Indonesia’s national identity, including key symbols like Garuda Pancasila. Some of these efforts openly advocated for the creation of an Islamic State of Indonesia and implementation of shariah law. All of these are well documented in the history books. While these attempts were still unsuccessful, they clearly demonstrate that there is a significant number of people who support the idea of establishing such a state.

A few examples:
DI/TII, The Darul Islam/Indonesian Islamic Army Rebellion. This rebellion aimed to replace Pancasila with Islamic law as the basis of the state. As this is history There are tons of book and information about this on the web
https://www.kompas.com/stori/read/2...la-dengan-ideologi-lain-pada-awal-kemerdekaan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darul_Islam_(Indonesia)

Piagam Jakarta (Jakarta Charter) In the past, there was an attempt to include the Jakarta Charter (which contains the phrase "with the obligation to implement Islamic law for its adherents") as part of the 1945 Constitution. However, after debate and consideration, seven words in the Jakarta Charter were removed from the Preamble to the 1945 Constitution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakarta_Charter
https://www.kompas.com/stori/read/2023/10/11/170000779/penghapusan-tujuh-kata-dalam-piagam-jakarta#:~:text=Pada tanggal 18 Agustus 1945,mengusulkan pemisahan agama dan negara.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, there was a poll indicates that the majority of Indonesians support Sharia law (Post#4 & Post#9). This is another poll from a long standing and highly reputable institution ISEAS (Institute of Southeast Asian Studies)
https://www.dw.com/en/why-are-more-indonesians-favoring-shariah/a-40471411 Indonesians favour Shariah

"A large number of Indonesians want Shariah to be implemented in their country and support women donning the hijab, says a new survey. It comes amid fears that Islamist groups are gaining more traction and visibility."

You or others might question the validity or credibility of those polls, but instead of simply disputing them, the most effective way to counter them is by presenting an alternative poll from a reputable institution that shows a different outcome. Even if the results aren't perfectly accurate, they still demonstrate that a significant number of people in Indonesia support shariah law.

If you say that Aceh is a model and stepping stone then I was wrong, you don't know how Aceh came to have Sharia law. Or could you explain how a years long really brutal war followed by a huge natural disaster is a model that can be applied elsewhere?
Regarding Aceh, 'jstar' has already addressed it. It's largely irrelevant to link a major natural disaster (presumably the tsunami) to Aceh's desire to implement Sharia law. The push for Sharia law predates the tsunami by many years, as there are enough people keep pushing it within the province.

You're just repeating yourself again. Where's the consideration of history, funding and resources, student demographics and other factors in your comparison of education providers? Maybe that's not in your source?
I fail to understand this question. When I said this, "Graduates of this certain religious schools rarely succeed in competitive academic environments such as gaining entry to top state universities through standard competitive entrance exams, be part of Indonesian team to take part in the International Physics Olympiad or receive scholarships from Indonesian government and/or foreign government, NGOs, to attend top tier universities abroad. If they received such things, it is mainly based on political quota rather than competitive base. " I am talking about fact. There are numerous sources highlighting the performance of these boarding schools compared to other private, mainstream schools that promote diversity. It is not very difficult to see the reason behind it. In the meanwhile, many boarding schools affiliated with certain religion have been known to foster a narrow-minded people. Some individuals from these institutions have even become involved in acts of terrorism, the destruction of places of worship belonging to other faiths (see below), entertainment venues, and the destruction of people's livelihoods. People usually don’t see anything wrong with practising their own belief, as long as it doesn’t hurt or disturb others with different beliefs.

Regarding demographics, it is very clear which schools run by religious-based organisations have more student. In terms of funding, it is a fact that Islamic boarding schools (pesantren and madrasas) receive significantly more state funding compared to private schools run by other religious groups in Indonesia. Apparently, when quality education is offered, people are willing to pay more for it.

That could be a problem. Has it happened? Is there an available analysis by a legal scholar to shed more light on the issue?
You have asked similar question in the previous thread Post #23 Post#14 (see the link below) about where this boarding school students fit in to that narrative. And I have shared a few links

The involvement of former boarding school students in bombings, destruction of house of worship of other religions, entertainment industry in Indonesia, which has also been confirmed by the police is well documented. There are a lot of information about this available online. Another link
"One of the fugitives in the suicide bombing case in Solo City last month, was named by the police as an alumnus of the Al-Mukmin Islamic boarding school in Sukoharjo City, Central Java."

Where did I see that before? Oh yeah, right here. Why should a reasonable person believe it's likely? Without supporting information it just sounds like fearmongering.
The facts have already been outlined above. Groups like Hizbut Tahrir Indonesia, Majelis Mujahidin Indonesia (MMI), Jamaah Ansharut Daulah (JAD), and FPI are well-documented in both news reports and historical records. Also consider the result of a few polls demonstrate that a significant number of people in Indonesia support shariah law and some political party actively provoking the implementation of shariah law. Is this fearmongering? When fact is presented, it might scare some people but facts is typically not considered as scaremongering. It might take decades for anything significant to unfold, but the point is, if these movements continue unchecked or are met with complacency, the eventual outcome is predictable.

It's funny you mention that. At the risk of being redundant myself, we know the process to trigger arrests under that law is very restrictive. Has the law had a real impact on people’s behavior?
The key point is that in discussions on this forum a few years ago, many believed laws criminalising premarital sex and cohabitation would never be passed in Indonesia yet they were, just months later. Whether or not these laws are actively enforced, or it is difficult to trigger is a separate issue; the fact remains that the laws now exist. If not enough extreme religious base organisation, political party using them as a vehicle or want them, why were they passed in the parliament in the first instance?

Have they truly changed people’s behaviour? Let wait and see. What is certain, however, is that these laws can now be used by parents or children against family members whose actions conflict with their Intense religious fanaticism and ideology. This marks a shift from the generally accepted norm that adult behaviour and religious choices are private matters, not subject to family interference.

I've shared plenty of accessible links, and there are many relevant search terms available for anyone interested in exploring the topic further. When responding or refuting these points, please do so in the same manner using credible sources and not relying solely on personal, uninformed opinions.
 

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Not sure how much credit I give a local Jakarta think tank to give an unbiased and fair assessment on another region.
I haven't looked into this think tank (Setara Institute), but I did have a quick look at their 'Tolerant City Index 2023'. It's interesting how Deutsche Welle (DW) attempts to find an explanation for why Aceh's cities rank low in tolerance. But of course: it is the implementation of Sharia in the region. At least that is what they are hinting at.

According to the findings of Setara Institute, three of the ten least tolerant cities are in Aceh. What DW -conveniently- forgot to mention was that the two least tolerant cities are not in Aceh but in Western Java: Depok and Cilegon. Yes people, these two cities score worse on the tolerance index than Banda Aceh; they are less tolerant than cities in Sharia-ruled Aceh.

This isn't the first time that SETARA Institute has placed Aceh near the bottom when measuring tolerance.

Near the bottom, you say? Look at who was at the bottom in 2015: Bogor, 2017: Jakarta, 2021: Depok, 2022: Cilegon, 2023: Depok.
If DW had a different agenda, they could have used the data from the report to write a different article: Western Java is a hornet's nest of intolerance.
 
I haven't looked into this think tank (Setara Institute), but I did have a quick look at their 'Tolerant City Index 2023'. It's interesting how Deutsche Welle (DW) attempts to find an explanation for why Aceh's cities rank low in tolerance. But of course: it is the implementation of Sharia in the region. At least that is what they are hinting at.

According to the findings of Setara Institute, three of the ten least tolerant cities are in Aceh. What DW -conveniently- forgot to mention was that the two least tolerant cities are not in Aceh but in Western Java: Depok and Cilegon. Yes people, these two cities score worse on the tolerance index than Banda Aceh; they are less tolerant than cities in Sharia-ruled Aceh.



Near the bottom, you say? Look at who was at the bottom in 2015: Bogor, 2017: Jakarta, 2021: Depok, 2022: Cilegon, 2023: Depok.
If DW had a different agenda, they could have used the data from the report to write a different article: Western Java is a hornet's nest of intolerance.
How boring! Give these naughty students a proper education, without Religion in it! 🤪🙀👍
 
What DW -conveniently- forgot to mention was that the two least tolerant cities are not in Aceh but in Western Java: Depok and Cilegon.
Of course you’re right.

But what you ‘forgot’ to mention is that the intolerance is about religion.

Not people who don’t want a refugee camp next door or Gypsies since it will decrease the value of their house.

So in a city as Depok that’s rather easy to acknowledge; you have the huge influence of a political party as the PKS, which until recently had Sharìa law as a main goal. And then there’s the presence of ANNAS which is -for lack of a better description- an anti Shia organization. The city tries to implement by-laws that are rather Sharia ‘flavored’ and which are called the “Muslim City”.

And about the ‘fake news’ remarks from the usual suspects, here is something out of a report from the US DEPARTMENT of State:

Aceh is the only province that implements sharia. The Aceh parliament adopted the Aceh Islamic Criminal Code in 2014; it went into effect in 2015. These laws provide for up to 100 lashes (caning) as punishment. Offenses include same-sex relations, sexual relations outside marriage, selling and consuming alcohol, gambling, being alone with someone of the opposite sex who is not a marriage partner or relative, sexual abuse, rape, and accusing a person of adultery without providing four witnesses.

Under a governor’s decree, women may not work in or visit restaurants unaccompanied by their spouse or a male relative after 9 p.m. A Banda Aceh mayoral decree forbids women from working in coffee shops, internet cafes, or sports venues after 11 p.m. or visiting such places after 10 p.m. if unaccompanied by an appropriate male relative. These decrees, however, do not have the force of law. Sharia regulations in Aceh require Muslim women to wear a hijab and prohibit them from wearing tight clothes in public. Regulations allow local officials to “remind” Muslim women of these regulations but not to detain them for violating the regulations. One district in Aceh prohibits women from sitting astride motorcycles when riding as passengers with a non-relative male. The maximum penalties for violations of sharia regulations include imprisonment and caning. There are regulations intended to limit the amount of force authorities may exert during a caning.
 
Of course you’re right.

But what you ‘forgot’ to mention is that the intolerance is about religion.

Not people who don’t want a refugee camp next door or Gypsies since it will decrease the value of their house.

So in a city as Depok that’s rather easy to acknowledge; you have the huge influence of a political party as the PKS, which until recently had Sharìa law as a main goal. And then there’s the presence of ANNAS which is -for lack of a better description- an anti Shia organization. The city tries to implement by-laws that are rather Sharia ‘flavored’ and which are called the “Muslim City”.

And about the ‘fake news’ remarks from the usual suspects, here is something out of a report from the US DEPARTMENT of State:
Are you sure this is Fake News? It says it's a Aceh Code, established by the Aceh Parliament is it a Parliament code or not? Why are Women so Oppressed in Sharia Law? Why can't they wear whatever clothing they want? Show their Beautiful long Black Hair? Be a Major Head in the Government making decisions? How about they make a Sharia law that states all Muslim Men must wear Black clothing from Head to Toe, covering the Eyes, and not be allowed to go out after 11:00 P.M. without a Woman, wearing whatever clothing she wants? Equal rights for All. Equal education for All. Anyone found Promoting Hatred, Abusing Women, Children, propaganda Against the West, should receive 100 lashes at the Public Square! This sounds Fair to Me! 👍🙏✌️🫵
 
How boring! Give these naughty students a proper education, without Religion in it! 🤪🙀👍
There are evidence which have also been confirmed by the police that some graduates of these boarding schools (pesantren and madrasas) have involved in acts of terrorism, the destruction of places of worship belonging to other faiths, entertainment venues, and the destruction of people's livelihoods see post #34.
 
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There are evidence which have also been confirmed by the police that some graduates of these boarding schools (pesantren and madrasas) have involved in acts of terrorism, the destruction of places of worship belonging to other faiths, entertainment venues, and the destruction of people's livelihoods see post #34.
The Bali Bombing in Kuta, The Twin Towers in New York, American Embassy in Beirut, Etc. This is definitely Not from the Teachings of Mohammed. And you say the Government subsidies these Schools?
How can all the Good Hearted Muslims, allow this to Continue? 🤷🏾‍♀️🤦🏾
 

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