DON'T PANIC.... well, maybe a little bit.

[Balifrog]

It will probably take a couple of years before there is some kind of universal settling into a "new normal."

This "new normal" thing is absolute nonsense.
But if it happens it will be a great victory for governments about mass control.

Just go back to the good old normal, and everything will be fine.

 

[Bad_azz]

Just to resurrect this thread that we thought would never end... Barak Obama just announced that he tested positive for Covid.
He seems to just have a mild version of it from what he says:

 

[Hawk256]

Just to resurrect this thread that we thought would never end... Barak Obama just announced that he tested positive for Covid.
He seems to just have a mild version of it from what he says:

Seems to be the common experience now. Both my wife and I had it a few weeks ago and it was a minor inconvenience. Same story from my relatives in the US that tested positive.

 

[harryopal1]

A friend in Melbourne has had the two vaccinations plus the booster and after feeling crook used the rapid antigen test and was positive. Went to a doctors' group and they wouldn't see him because he has Covid. That seems a bit like the undertaker refusing to visit your house because you're dead. Friend is now quarantining at home.

 

[harryopal1]

Like so much human endeavour, Covid management seems more art than science. Around the world so many protocols are being cast aside even though Covid is anything but controlled. Economic pressures are a major element in doing away with what were previously rigidly enforced protocols such as mask wearing and the number of people who can be in one place.

After almost isolating the state from the rest of the world Western Australia has now opened up and with that a serious outbreak of Covid.

Just looked at a piece about masks and their apparent ineffectiveness,. The intro can be skipped through except it does cite the details of the speaker, Stephen Patto I looked up his details in this first link.

Meet Mesothelioma Lawyer Steven J. Patti

Mesothelioma trial lawyer Steven J. Patti, specializes in Litigation and Appeals. Sausalito, California.

www.mesothelioma-attorney.com

Patti.

Interesting how the vogue enthusiasm for spraying seems to have evaporated.

I guess confronted with a crisis such as Covid it is important for governing authorities to be seen to be taking action.

 

[Helpful Herbert]

Indeed. I am starting to wonder when travel in and out of Indonesia will be possible again without restrictions like vaccine requirements, quarantine or tests:

• by 31 December 2021
• by 31 December 2022
• by 31 December 2025
• by 31 December 2030
• never

Looks like the answer to this was May 2023, which was when the last vaccine requirement was lifted.

 

[harryopal1]

An interesting revelation today about the US military conducting an anti-vax campaign to undermine China.

The United States Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic, report says

The US military launched a clandestine program amid the COVID crisis to discredit China’s Sinovac inoculation – payback for Beijing’s efforts to blame Washington for the pandemic.

www.abc.net.au

Now that we are somewhat removed from the original worldwide response to Covid I wonder if there has been a serious review about the enthusiasm for spraying everywhere... roads, cars, trains, people. The overall costs, and profits for some, must have been considerable. I imagine that there was a kind of public relations value in perhaps providing reassurance that governments were taking anti-covid measures but how effective was it and is it something that should be continued? I do recall there were health people warning that the spraying could be dangerous to health. It seems worthy of some kind of re-examination and evaluation. Has anyone seen any definitive analysis?

 

[John indonesia]

https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/127/public-accounts-committee/news/171306/4-billion-of-unusable-ppe-bought-in-first-year-of-pandemic-will-be-burnt-to-generate-power/

I heard this on Radio 4's news this morning.
It seems someone massively over-ordered in what appears to have been a panic attack based on stupidity.

 

[harryopal1]

https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/127/public-accounts-committee/news/171306/4-billion-of-unusable-ppe-bought-in-first-year-of-pandemic-will-be-burnt-to-generate-power/

I heard this on Radio 4's news this morning.
It seems someone massively over-ordered in what appears to have been a panic attack based on stupidity.

No doubt the equipment suppliers made oodles of profit as I suspect was the case with suppliers of spraying equipment.

The corrupt Michelle Mone, made a peer by former British PM David Cameron admits that her husband made a profit of 50 million pounds from government contracts providing Covid supplies.

 

[Balifrog]

https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/127/public-accounts-committee/news/171306/4-billion-of-unusable-ppe-bought-in-first-year-of-pandemic-will-be-burnt-to-generate-power/

I heard this on Radio 4's news this morning.
It seems someone massively over-ordered in what appears to have been a panic attack based on stupidity.

Same with the E.U. who over-ordered Pfizer vaccines....
Madness.

 

[serious_fun]

An interesting revelation today about the US military conducting an anti-vax campaign to undermine China.

Istri ku and I refused any experimental injections until we were absolutely required to take them on pain of losing jobs and having the kids expelled from school. Once we were forced to take them, at least we had the relief of knowing that we could take Sinovac rubbish rather than the mRNA rubbish.

 

[John indonesia]

No doubt the equipment suppliers made oodles of profit as I suspect was the case with suppliers of spraying equipment.

The corrupt Michelle Mone, made a peer by former British PM David Cameron admits that her husband made a profit of 50 million pounds from government contracts providing Covid supplies.
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I don't know, but it's the sort of thing I would expect from them

 

[John indonesia]

Istri ku and I refused any experimental injections until we were absolutely required to take them on pain of losing jobs and having the kids expelled from school. Once we were forced to take them, at least we had the relief of knowing that we could take Sinovac rubbish rather than the mRNA rubbish.

I gather tin foil hats are quite cheap.

 

[serious_fun]

I gather tin foil hats are quite cheap.

I'm not sure what to take from your post; are you insinuating that my family and I (along with countless millions) are ignorant for avoiding experimental injections?? You're free to accept whatever you please, but don't question the decisions which we made for our children and ourselves.

Using a thought terminating cliche such as 'tinfoil hat' is a marxist trick, and it doesn't work with me. If you'd like to spend your time posting intelligent replies to my post(s), then please do so. I may return to this forum in a few weeks, and I'll probably read those posts. I may even respond.

Enjoy the afternoon.

 

[John indonesia]

I'm not sure what to take from your post; are you insinuating that my family and I (along with countless millions) are ignorant for avoiding experimental injections??

Enjoy the afternoon.

Yes

 

[Balifrog]

I gather tin foil hats are quite cheap.

No, but having 4 or 5 vaccines like I saw some people doing is utterly stupid....

 

[John indonesia]

No, but having 4 or 5 vaccines like I saw some people doing is utterly stupid....

I seem to recall one man died after taking the vaccine under a series of borrowed IDs. The anti vax fools found their mirror in a different type of twit.