Covfefe

[Davita]

I've never laughed at America more since DJ trump became president. Total moron, you couldn't make up a bigger douche bag. Add to that the americans who, with straight faces, actually try to defend the psychotic, narcissistic imbecile. It's non-stop comedy gold, one bigly yuge reality show...

I agree...what were Americans thinking when they voted for this snake-oil salesman...in a few months he's managed to make Russia and China look GREAT.

 

[Anglian]

I've never laughed at America more since DJ trump became president. Total moron, you couldn't make up a bigger douche bag. Add to that the americans who, with straight faces, actually try to defend the psychotic, narcissistic imbecile. It's non-stop comedy gold, one bigly yuge reality show...

Well that told them

 

[William King]

9/ The federal government now requires US visa applicants for their last five years worth of social media handles, email addresses and phone numbers. As well as the last 15 years of biographical information including addresses, employment, and travel history. (Reuters)

from https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/

 

[Jamu]

Well that told them

Apologies, didn't provide the context. From CNN (yes, I know, fake news, as are all media that don't buy into Trump's lies and horsecrap) - regarding his pull out from the Paris Agreement, he said "At what point does America get demeaned? At what point do they start laughing at us as a country?" Hmmm, the moment you got elected, douche. Best twitter reaction though, goes to George Takei, Sulu from the original StarTrek, who tweeted, "Trump is having the U.S. pull out of the Paris Climate Accord. Too bad someone didn't tell his father that he shoulda pulled out, too".... Doh, covfefe!

 

[Jamu]

 

[R Cameron]

If you want to understand how the temperature of the Earth changes naturally, and whether the changes we are seeing are man-made, I think this is very helpful graphic illustration for us non-scientists:

(prepare your scroll wheel)
https://xkcd.com/1732/

 

[William King]

Please,

source:http://joannenova.com.au/2010/02/the-big-picture-65-million-years-of-temperature-swings/

David Lappi is a geologist from Alaska who has sent in a set of beautiful graphs–including an especially prosaic one of the last 10,000 years in Greenland–that he put together himself (and which I’ve copied here at the top).

If you wonder where today’s temperature fits in with the grand scheme of time on Earth since the dinosaurs were wiped out, here’s the history. We start with the whole 65 million years, then zoom in, and zoom in again to the last 12,000 from both ends of the world. What’s obvious is that in terms of homo sapiens history, things are warm now (because we’re not in an ice age). But, in terms of homo sapiens civilization, things are cooler than usual, and appear to be cooling.

Then again, since T-rex & Co. vanished, it’s been one long slide down the thermometer, and our current “record heatwave” is far cooler than normal. The dinosaurs would have scoffed at us: “What? You think this is warm?”

With so much volatility in the graphs, anyone could play “pick a trend” and depending on which dot you start from, you can get any trend you want. — Jo

 

[William King]

or last 12 thousand years?

 

[Nimbus]

Please,

source:http://joannenova.com.au/2010/02/the-big-picture-65-million-years-of-temperature-swings/

David Lappi is a geologist from Alaska who has sent in a set of beautiful graphs–including an especially prosaic one of the last 10,000 years in Greenland–that he put together himself (and which I’ve copied here at the top).

If you wonder where today’s temperature fits in with the grand scheme of time on Earth since the dinosaurs were wiped out, here’s the history. We start with the whole 65 million years, then zoom in, and zoom in again to the last 12,000 from both ends of the world. What’s obvious is that in terms of homo sapiens history, things are warm now (because we’re not in an ice age). But, in terms of homo sapiens civilization, things are cooler than usual, and appear to be cooling.

Then again, since T-rex & Co. vanished, it’s been one long slide down the thermometer, and our current “record heatwave” is far cooler than normal. The dinosaurs would have scoffed at us: “What? You think this is warm?”

With so much volatility in the graphs, anyone could play “pick a trend” and depending on which dot you start from, you can get any trend you want. — Jo

Our history as a species began about 200,000 years ago. When discussing our continued survival, that's the relevant range. Why would I care about the average temperature habitable by dinosaurs? I care about the the temp range that supports us humans.

Adding tens of millions of years to the graph does not help. I think this is done precisely to obfuscate the tiny important sliver at the very end: the last 200K years.

 

[Nimbus]

or last 12 thousand years?

Let's read this properly and compare it to Cameron's XKCD graph. His chart shows averages, so extreme temporary variations are smoothed out. Look at the explanation just below 16,000 BCE.

The heavily smoothed blue line on this chart from Jo Nova shows little change in average, which agrees with XKCD for the same time range. What she deliberately left out is the most recent data showing the average moving sharply up. Her data stops at 110 years ago. Thankfully XKCD shows what happened since then.

A lot of knowledgeable folks have done the good work of debunking Jo Nova, so I'm not going to redo it.
https://skepticalscience.com/How-Jo-Nova-doesnt-get-past-climate-change.html

 

[fastpitch17]

Our history as a species began about 200,000 years ago. When discussing our continued survival, that's the relevant range. Why would I care about the average temperature habitable by dinosaurs? I care about the the temp range that supports us humans.

Adding tens of millions of years to the graph does not help. I think this is done precisely to obfuscate the tiny important sliver at the very end: the last 200K years.

Climate has nothing to do with the age of man. Everything to do with the age of the Earth. That's the problem. People like to take a little piece of the picture and try to make an argument for it. Sorry, the big picture is the model you need to look at. Man just places in that picture for a short amount of time. You can only uas man's existance as a small reference. Climat is Earth. Man is making things they think up and fit someplace they have no business.

 

[Anglian]

I'm no weather expert but I'm think more of an ice age to come, I read somewhere, that the last ice age occurred within two years, this was due to global warming melting the polar regions, the extra fresh water caused a different density in the sea, this caused the Gulf Stream to sink, thus changing the weather pattern, within 2 years Europe was in an ice age, it's being so cheerful that keeps me going, don't worry

 

[El_Goretto]

 

[fastpitch17]

I do believe it takes quite a bit longer but, you are close to the equator so buy some beachfront when it's all covered in water and who knows, when it gets cold in the North and South you may have a kilometer of ocean side property.

 

[fastpitch17]

El, that finally makes sense.

 

[Nimbus]

Climate has nothing to do with the age of man. Everything to do with the age of the Earth. That's the problem. People like to take a little piece of the picture and try to make an argument for it. Sorry, the big picture is the model you need to look at. Man just places in that picture for a short amount of time. You can only uas man's existance as a small reference. Climat is Earth. Man is making things they think up and fit someplace they have no business.

We care about climate not because we love this spherical piece of rock called earth, it's because climate change affects our survival as a species.

Nature can take care of itself. When humans screw this up, we go extinct. Life, however, goes on without us. In another 60 million years another intelligent being will evolve to be the apex predator again.

Earth (and its period) that was not hospitable to human life is not important. It's academically interesting to know that the planet was much warmer before we were around, but it's irrelevant to our survival.

 

[Nimbus]

 

[William King]

Why would I care about the average temperature habitable by dinosaurs? I care about the the temp range that supports us humans.
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This comment is Trumpesque in it's ignorance.

Hunans and paleontological animals, not just dinosaurs pretty much do have the same habitable temperatures ranges. But habitable temperature ranges are not even the issue anyway. It is the supposed sea level rises (but sea is not a single water behaving like a bath tub at home) and the severe monster storms to be allegedly unleashed. Oh, and increased desertification too.

 

[Nimbus]

This comment is Trumpesque in it's ignorance.

Hunans and paleontological animals, not just dinosaurs pretty much do have the same habitable temperatures ranges. But habitable temperature ranges are not even the issue anyway. It is the supposed sea level rises (but sea is not a single water behaving like a bath tub at home) and the severe monster storms to be allegedly unleashed. Oh, and increased desertification too.

The temperature range does not exist in a vacuum, it signifies a certain state of the planet. While it's possible that we'll do just fine on Dinosaurs's earth, the fact of the matter is that we did not exist back then. Sorry to take a shortcut, but I thought you said you have a scientific background, so you'd understand what I mean. Then again maybe I shouldn't take that for granted, since you choose to believe a TV personality instead of NASA.

We exist and thrive in the last 200K years, within a narrow band of average temperature that represents a particular state of the earth. We are about to move drastically out of that range, which could mean into a drastically different kind of earth. I sure hope that this new earth supports us just fine, because otherwise we'll follow the dinosaurs. However, a wise man once said "hope is not a plan".

 

[William King]

The temperature range does not exist in a vacuum, it signifies a certain state of the planet. While it's possible that we'll do just fine on Dinosaurs's earth, the fact of the matter is that we did not exist back then. Sorry to take a shortcut, but I thought you said you have a scientific background, so you'd understand what I mean. Then again maybe I shouldn't take that for granted, since you choose to believe a TV personality instead of NASA.

We exist and thrive in the last 200K years, within a narrow band of average temperature that represents a particular state of the earth. We are about to move drastically out of that range, which could mean into a drastically different kind of earth. I sure hope that this new earth supports us just fine, because otherwise we'll follow the dinosaurs. However, a wise man once said "hope is not a plan".

Your entire answer is pseduo science claptrap.