Certification to get married ??‍?‍??

[jstar]

Every country has its 'South' of course, where people are more lazy, dirty, etc.

In Indonesia you could say that is East. Those in Bali do nothing besides burning their dead, those in Ambon only party and sing, the maids in Manado are arrogant and lazy, ......

The funny things is that even the locals kind of agree. So they get Javanese over to do the work. Obviously then you also get an influx of different cultures.

That is also something that would have a big impact on the possible contents of those wedding courses; what about mixed culture marriages? (Not only WNI/WNA.)
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[IndoTom]

The "laziness' matter reminds me of white people in the top end of Australia criticizing Aborigines for being lazy. "Look at the way they walk." (Slowly, more often.) This criticism mostly comes from people living in air conditioned homes, driving air conditioned cars to air conditioned offices and socializing in air conditioned pubs. Getting around in Bali I thank God I am not outside laboring in that hot sun.

This also reminds me of the criticism of Malays for the "Ta apa" attitude to life. The take it easy lifestyle has much to commend it as an alternative to getting on the ambition treadmill of long hours, great stress and stress related illnesses later in life.

Good thought about the air conditioning! But if it were that simple then the solution would just be to put everyone in an aircon room for a while and BAMM! Suddenly a productive citizens.

 

[Euc-]

Some thoughts:

Just like a (virgin) Catholic priest not having to tell me anything about reproduction, I strongly object to any stranger telling me how to manage money or who to visit at Christmas.

More serious: As we all know, in this society it will be a course / vision which is religiously tinted. And in the best case still with cultural attachments.

As useful as certain things might be, it will definitely not lower a divorce rate or so. If you see that in the US the divorce on average 7 years after the wedding takes place, and in Italy after 18 years, it does not seem to depend on preparation before the marriage.

I can understand to learn about certain aspects can make sense. Fine, then make a voluntary program. With money matters, care of infants, balance work/free time, ..... as possible subjects.

I would like to clarify, there was no catholic priest telling us about reproduction nor money matters.

Most subjects were done by members of the church community who are experts in their field, reproduction done by a OBGYN, money matters by a financial guy etc.

And even then they don’t tell you what to do, they dont say you must visit a on first xmas day and b on second or whatever. They open up the subjects, give a couple of solutions, but in the end it’s up to the couple to figure out and make a decision.

I once again state that in my experience this was a very helpful course for the majority of attendees, who usually had very different upbringings then you and I.

 

[jstar]

Well, good to hear the KPP has improved over all these years (my sessions were a big joke but those are many years ago). Officially reproduction was always part of the chapter sexuality btw, yeah right.

Now, in many countries the Catholic Church organizes (3-5) pre-marital sessions. But often they're not mandatory.

 

[ChrisTex]

Some of these things could and should be taught in school(dangerous diseases, reproductive, health, malnutrition).