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What I was wondering about, is which approach will prove to be the best; or smaller planes that go faster and use less fuel (Boeing 787) or bigger planes that can transport more people (Airbus A380)?

It seems 600 jobs are affected at Airbus since the A380 and A400 production will go down?!
 
jstar said:
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What I was wondering about, is which approach will prove to be the best; or smaller planes that go faster and use less fuel (Boeing 787) or bigger planes that can transport more people (Airbus A380)?

It seems 600 jobs are affected at Airbus since the A380 and A400 production will go down?!
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My own opinion is it looks like the A380 is doomed.
Airbus is still a competitor with its A350-1000 and is capable of further expansion and development.
If Trump expands his tariffs and hurts China I can see them target Boeing and favor Airbus....could see sparks fly...:nod:
 
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Davita said:
My own opinion is it looks like the A380 is doomed.
Airbus is still a competitor with its A350-1000 and is capable of further expansion and development.
If Trump expands his tariffs and hurts China I can see them target Boeing and favor Airbus....could see sparks fly...:nod:
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Boeing stock took it in the shorts bigtime today out of fear that a tariff war with the Chinese will devastate its bottom line.
 
waarmstrong said:
Boeing stock took it in the shorts bigtime today out of fear that a tariff war with the Chinese will devastate its bottom line.
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The value of a Company will spike investors but, when orders are canceled and hi tech, high paid jobs at Boeing are laid-off in favor of Trumps economic miracle to revitalize low tech, low wage manual jobs in steel mills....then we might see sparks fly.
 
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Heartbreak as dog dies on United flight after crew forces flier to stick it in overhead bin

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/20...forces_flier_to_stick_it_in_overhead_bin.html
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That is a heartbreaking story and, clearly, the Flight Attendant was wrong to even suggest putting the dog in the overhead compartment......but what I cannot understand is why the owner would leave the dog unattended for 3 hours.
I see people get up and take stuff out of their overhead stowage on an hours flight...diapers for smelly babies, pashminas for cold ladies, playboy mags for DOM, toys for boys....even cup noodles for the hungry.....so why leave a barking dog there for 3 hours....makes no sense!
I also find it hard to believe the suggestion there is no air in those compartments...there may not be a good airflow but the compartment is pressurized the same as the rest of the cabin.
Some short-nosed dogs have difficulty breathing. This dog may have had such an issue and, even being on a seat, could be a problem in an aircraft where the cabin is effectively at 5-6000 feet and oxygen is more limited than at sea level.
 
Davita said:
That is a heartbreaking story and, clearly, the Flight Attendant was wrong to even suggest putting the dog in the overhead compartment......but what I cannot understand is why the owner would leave the dog unattended for 3 hours.
I see people get up and take stuff out of their overhead stowage on an hours flight...diapers for smelly babies, pashminas for cold ladies, playboy mags for DOM, toys for boys....even cup noodles for the hungry.....so why leave a barking dog there for 3 hours....makes no sense!
I also find it hard to believe the suggestion there is no air in those compartments...there may not be a good airflow but the compartment is pressurized the same as the rest of the cabin.
Some short-nosed dogs have difficulty breathing. This dog may have had such an issue and, even being on a seat, could be a problem in an aircraft where the cabin is effectively at 5-6000 feet and oxygen is more limited than at sea level.
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Well, the people have been so brainwashed into following crews instructions no matter what, or else...

Perhaps they figured the dog was sleeping, perhaps the fasten seatbelt sign was on the entire flight (not entirely unheard of for a 3 hour flight), perhaps both the FA as well as the pax were equally stupid, there could be many reasons.

Perhaps it was a set-up by a competitor airline to get UA some more bad publicity ?

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Besides, if you don't follow instructions, you might have to deal with these guys:

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Boeing Stock is up a bit today (at least so far). I trust United will get its shit together PR-wise, so they have money to buy more Boeing aircraft.

We usually fly American/JAL, but the best deal offered for the trip to Jakarta this year was offered by United/All Nippon. Hopefully there will be no barking dogs (or crying babies) in our cattle class section of the cabin.
 
I have posted before about not using budget airlines including batik in my travels. One of the reason was a landing we had at Manado a few years
ago where the pilot badly "dropped" the plane on the tarmac much to shock of the passengers including a friend who was on his first visit to Indonesia..From that point on we stopped using budget airlines

Since that time my wife has been adamant that we travel internally with Garuda and I who has a mental health issue partly relating to a flying incident in my Air Force career would do just about anything I can to mitigate my risks or reduce my anxiety when flying. This includes booking flights on airlines with a relatively good recent safety history, taking early morning flights and taking a couple of extra pills if flying in the morning or a stiff scotch or two in the afternoon. I have however not let my issues stop me from traveling and my wife also insists I travel with her when she is travelling on business.

Fast forward to a fortnight ago when we were required to travel to Manado at short notice due to my wife's business. Due to short the notice, the only fare I could get from Garunda was 7.2 juta one way for two but Batik was offering 1.9 juta for two. After much soul searching, we decided to give Batik another try.

You do get what you pay for and the check in of our baggage took almost 1 hour despite having already checked in online. On board the food had deteriorated from our last trip and fruit juice had been replaced with only water on offer. All of that was not a problem, given what we had paid.

However, the real problem was the landing. I said to my wife on final approach "this bloke is going to fast" and yet again the pilot "dropped" the plan onto the tarmac.

Nowhere near as bad as the first instance but enough to say never again.

Despite have a big year of travel to Manado and Sangihe Island planned for business reasons and the possible building of a second home in Manado, we will be travelling by Garuda to Manado and ferry to Sangihe.

I yearn for the day when I can say to my wife "you travel to Jakarta on business" and leave me in my may Asian paradise namely Manado. At that point I think I will also give up International travel except for the occasional reunion with children in Australia. In the meantime, will we continue to pay premium prices for my "peace of mind". Albeit, a probable misguided feeling of security.
 
I fear some of the landings here are more controlled crashes, anyone recall the Adam Air B737 that broke in half, must have been bit of a shock locking up and seeing sky, Batavia Air rushed in and foolishly bought the two engines, sent them to Garuda, wether they told garuda they were ex Adam Air but shortly after fitting to a Bativa aircraft they failed miserably, there was a court case but Batavia lost
 
Not sure if this belongs here or the Trump thread....CNN and why fake news....

His request approved, the CNN News photographer used his cell phone to call the local airport to charter a flight.
He was told a twin-engine plane would be waiting for him. Arriving at the airfield, he spotted a plane warming up outside a hanger.
He jumped in with his bag, slammed the door shut, and shouted, 'Let's go’.
The pilot taxied out, swung the plane into the wind and took-off.
Once in the air, the photographer instructed the pilot, 'Fly over the valley and make low passes so I can take pictures of the fires on the hillsides.'
'Why?' asked the pilot.
'Because I'm a photographer for CNN' , he responded, 'and I need to get some close-up shots.’
The pilot was strangely silent for a moment, finally he stammered, 'So, what you're telling me, is . .You're NOT my flight instructor?':oops:
 
brian@bekasi said:
I have posted before about not using budget airlines including batik in my travels. One of the reason was a landing we had at Manado a few years
ago where the pilot badly "dropped" the plane on the tarmac much to shock of the passengers including a friend who was on his first visit to Indonesia..From that point on we stopped using budget airlines

Since that time my wife has been adamant that we travel internally with Garuda and I who has a mental health issue partly relating to a flying incident in my Air Force career would do just about anything I can to mitigate my risks or reduce my anxiety when flying. This includes booking flights on airlines with a relatively good recent safety history, taking early morning flights and taking a couple of extra pills if flying in the morning or a stiff scotch or two in the afternoon. I have however not let my issues stop me from traveling and my wife also insists I travel with her when she is travelling on business.

Fast forward to a fortnight ago when we were required to travel to Manado at short notice due to my wife's business. Due to short the notice, the only fare I could get from Garunda was 7.2 juta one way for two but Batik was offering 1.9 juta for two. After much soul searching, we decided to give Batik another try.

You do get what you pay for and the check in of our baggage took almost 1 hour despite having already checked in online. On board the food had deteriorated from our last trip and fruit juice had been replaced with only water on offer. All of that was not a problem, given what we had paid.

However, the real problem was the landing. I said to my wife on final approach "this bloke is going to fast" and yet again the pilot "dropped" the plan onto the tarmac.

Nowhere near as bad as the first instance but enough to say never again.

Despite have a big year of travel to Manado and Sangihe Island planned for business reasons and the possible building of a second home in Manado, we will be travelling by Garuda to Manado and ferry to Sangihe.

I yearn for the day when I can say to my wife "you travel to Jakarta on business" and leave me in my may Asian paradise namely Manado. At that point I think I will also give up International travel except for the occasional reunion with children in Australia. In the meantime, will we continue to pay premium prices for my "peace of mind". Albeit, a probable misguided feeling of security.
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I always feel sympathy for those who have a fear of flying. It is an acceptable fear as man isn't supposed to fly. My wife was a Flight Attendant for over 10 years and never thought about fear when she was working but now, as a pax, she's shit-scared and squeezes my hand so much in turbulence I lose all feeling.
Before 9/11 it was common for us to leave the flight-deck door open...this was to show passengers how relaxed we were while checking our stock-portfolios...J/K. It was also allowed to invite some who were very fearful to sit on the jump-seat and watch the landing...this is no longer permitted.
The basic psychology was....the more one is involved the less fearful they are. Even now, as a pax, if I'm next to someone showing anxiety I talk to them about what is going on and what all the funny noises mean.

To that end may I also say that a hard landing doesn't always mean the pilot lost control....indeed, on a short or wet runway, the quicker the wheels are slapped onto the asphalt the faster the slow down and braking. This is planned....if the runway is really long then a pilot can indulge in losing a few hundred feet and float to soften the touch-down but, like Manado, which only has 2650 metres of runway, it is preferable to land at the edge a little harder and deploy all the braking devices early to stop. It is only when the undercarriage is compressed that other braking functions are enabled.

BTW I just returned today JKT-Bali on Citilink and it was a very pleasant flight and the same price as other budget carriers. They gave us a free bottle of aqua and I drank a Rp15,000 coffee....not bad!
 
Davita said:
I always feel sympathy for those who have a fear of flying. It is an acceptable fear as man isn't supposed to fly. My wife was a Flight Attendant for over 10 years and never thought about fear when she was working but now, as a pax, she's shit-scared and squeezes my hand so much in turbulence I lose all feeling.
Before 9/11 it was common for us to leave the flight-deck door open...this was to show passengers how relaxed we were while checking our stock-portfolios...J/K. It was also allowed to invite some who were very fearful to sit on the jump-seat and watch the landing...this is no longer permitted.
The basic psychology was....the more one is involved the less fearful they are. Even now, as a pax, if I'm next to someone showing anxiety I talk to them about what is going on and what all the funny noises mean.

To that end may I also say that a hard landing doesn't always mean the pilot lost control....indeed, on a short or wet runway, the quicker the wheels are slapped onto the asphalt the faster the slow down and braking. This is planned....if the runway is really long then a pilot can indulge in losing a few hundred feet and float to soften the touch-down but, like Manado, which only has 2650 metres of runway, it is preferable to land at the edge a little harder and deploy all the braking devices early to stop. It is only when the undercarriage is compressed that other braking functions are enabled.

BTW I just returned today JKT-Bali on Citilink and it was a very pleasant flight and the same price as other budget carriers. They gave us a free bottle of aqua and I drank a Rp15,000 coffee....not bad!
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Thank you for the reassurance and information about the Manado strip. I will give the benefit of the doubt on the second incident

The fear of flying is a strange phobia. Just a single incident changes everything.In my case it was a flight from Sydney to Dubbo NSW on duty in the mid 1970's. That was followed by a second incident on a RAAF hercules from Exmouth in Western Australia to Richmond NSW in the early 1980's. The Herc lost power in one engine and landed under emergency procedures..

Over the years I have tried many strategies to reduce the fear. For a number of years I was lucky enough to fly business class (work) and convinced myself that taking a flight was just like going to a restaurant. I could sit down have a nice meal and a few wines.

Those days are long so I just do my best to cope. Saying that i try to reduce the flight time where possible. For example we are having a few days in Dubai on the way to London in May. The down side means another take off and landing.

Like your wife, I clutch my wife's leg very tightly on take-off.

Personally I would try AirAsia but my wife says no.
 
I wouldn't exactly call an engine failure in the cruise on a C-130 an emergency.
 
RE: post # 57 by Brian
To offer more reassurance I'd say that an RAAF Hercules (C130) wouldn't be in an emergency with only one engine losing power. This is practised so much in flight simulators, and in reality in an aircraft, by RAAF pilots it becomes second nature...in fact, most RAAF C130 pilots wouldn't feel right if not qualified to land with two engines out!

Air safety is second to none in the transportation industry. Statistically, in 2017, according to IATA, you have a much better chance of winning a big lottery than being involved in an aircraft incident never mind a fatal accident.

My wife prefers Air Asia and I prefer the cheapest and the best morning departures....which is usually Lion, between Bali-Jakarta vv, these days....don't know why.

Fear of flying is a strange phobia which no amount of reassuring can cure. My friend confesses he has to have an aisle seat as he gets claustrophobia...and I thought it was because he could eyeball the flight attendants in tight skirts....:sad:

Everyone has their own coping mechanism ...sometimes alcohol, sometimes pills and some even wear wrist bands...and some resort to prayer! So far....I have never tried the last two as the first one always worked for me...:plane:
 
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