AirAsia world's best low-cost airline for 9th consecutive year.

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dafluff said:
From: http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/...ssengers-told-say-prayer-flight-returns-perth



I don't know about other people, but I much prefer my Captains to not waste time on "praying" and "hoping" and making stupid cabin announcements like the above, and just flying the damn plane.
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I know what you mean, the Saudia Saudi crews had that nasty habit, bit worrying sometimes too, I decided I didn't want to do " Flying Spanner" anymore and grounded myself, experiencing it twice was enough, 3 times isn't always lucky
 
In my 16 years with an airline the only time I heard anyone pray was at year-end. Some of my colleagues would pray the airline had made enough profit to pay us a bonus...:wof:
 
I've just seen another video someone produced of the offending engine and clearly it was windmilling, and not seized, as previously reported.
In that case my guess is the engine shed some turbine blades and, was so out of balance, the windmilling engine caused all that shaking. The pilot said he'd reduced speed.... clearly to minimize the windmilling rotation which, I also agree, was the correct action.
I'll bet, when the aircraft was on final approach to land, most of that shaking would have disappeared.
 
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Rather than investigate the 'praying' I'm sure the Captain will be questioned on why he returned to Perth when he must have been very close to RAAF Learmonth airfield.
Given the severity of the shaking it would seem prudent to land at the nearest suitable airport and, by my calculation, that would be RAAF Learmonth...which is a dedicated alternate to Perth International and has been used in an emergency by Qantas and Air Asia before.
 
Davita said:
Chatting on the ride back to our villa I asked if he enjoyed the free food and drink on Garuda...he grumped and said he was asleep the whole flight...:biggrin1:
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Which you don't get to do with those bloody announcements on Air Asia... ;)

I've always wondered when they're going to include sponsorship deals in them as well; "Thank you for flying Air Asia in co-operation with Coca-Cola, a special thanks to our sponsors McDonalds and Nike, just do it!, who have made your flight happen at the cheapest prices"
 
On the praying; has anyone flown with Sriwijaya lately? They've included a "let us pray for the safety of this flight" in their pre-flight announcements...

Not to mention another personal favorite: "because of the rules of the *enter local aviation authority name* we are going to do a safety demo". (Or something similar, I forgot the exact sentence)

So they're only doing the demo because the aviation authority demands it, you couldn't at least pretend that it is because you are actually concerned about our safety?
 
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On the praying; has anyone flown with Sriwijaya lately? They've included a "let us pray for the safety of this flight" in their pre-flight announcements...

Not to mention another personal favorite: "because of the rules of the *enter local aviation authority name* we are going to do a safety demo". (Or something similar, I forgot the exact sentence)

So they're only doing the demo because the aviation authority demands it, you couldn't at least pretend that it is because you are actually concerned about our safety?
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With that much praying, there is absolutely no need for safety demo anymore. It is guaranteed to be safe by the big guy above.
There are some regional airline crews that manage to make the safety announcement entertaining such as Southwest and Frontier from my personal experience. Why can't that become more of the industry standard?
 
When my wife and I flew to Penang AirAsia the 3 passengers seated across the aisle had their bibles and prayer books out, they prayed the whole flight, I wondered if they knew something we didn't know, perhaps that's why we had an uneventful flight, their prayers were answered, you never know do you.
 
For some, prayer probably does help pass the time on a long flight; benefits beyond that are purely coincidental.

I suspect that a lot of praying takes place in the moments before a distressed craft slams into the ground; absent survivors, speculation on my part I conceded, but likely testament to the power of prayer.
 
Slow news day, I guess. I read that "Three coins in turbine" story on CNBC earlier. Seems the octogenarian was a poor shot -- only one of the hand full she tossed made it into the engine.

She was traveling with a group of loved ones, and was apparently oblivious to the potential harm to them, as well as herself and the other passengers. This story again documents the power of religious based superstition.
 
dafluff said:
From: http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/...ssengers-told-say-prayer-flight-returns-perth



I don't know about other people, but I much prefer my Captains to not waste time on "praying" and "hoping" and making stupid cabin announcements like the above, and just focus on flying the damn plane.
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You may be interested to read about this Facebook post by a witness, Madeline Wright (posted on 26 June at 17:12).

My name is Madeline Wright and I was involved in the Air Asia engine incident on sunday morning (24th june) traveling from Perth to Kuala lumpur on my family's way to Vietnam. After hearing the loud bang, our aircraft began to shake vigorously and panic fell across all 359 passengers. Our reassuring captain talked us through the whole situation and gave us every piece of information he had.

The way we all cooperated and remained calm throughout the event made it easier for crew aboard to help us and for our captain to fly us to safety. No one screamed. The fact that we and other passengers paid less for a flight is not the reason for this planes accident. A technical problem like this could happen on any plane and Air Asia's cheaper flights are not to blame. The aircraft was checked thoroughly before departure like all planes are and was regulated by the same air safety organisations. People should not be criticising Air Asia for missing anything - technical problems happen all the time, even on more expensive flights. We didn't pay less for a technical problem, we paid less for no electronic devices, no meals and less leg room. Air Asia is an amazing company and i have flown with them many times before, always with great service and perfect take off and landing.

It disgusts me that people are criticising our captain for telling us to pray and are trying to get him fired. The full context was, "Everything is under control in the cockpit. If you want to say a prayer, that might help too." his ask for prayer was said in such way that it was only to make us feel better and if it helped that was an individual thing. He was professional. He was human. He was a reassuring voice during this event and gave us hope, he is the reason i am still alive and i cannot thank him enough. English was his second language and he had a little trouble speaking to us but what he said was enough. Interestingly, despite 80% of his passengers being Asian descent, he only spoke in English through the incident.

And to the people blaming Air Asia for the event, it was not their fault and they did their best to keep us comfortable during the incident and the aftermath. Yes, we did stay in an airport for several hours waiting on news of what was to happen next, but they provided us with vouchers for food and water and the wait was only to ensure the best for us. During this time it was telling that everyone was calm, tolerant and patient - not all like a standard 3-hr wait in a queue. We were given the choice of full refunds of tickets, a rescheduled flight, or to stay in the airport a little longer for a later flight. It took time because during the chaos period, they needed to work out a plan and then communicate that plan. I'd rather wait to get one correct story than get four hastily-delivered wrong stories.

For those of you criticising Air Asia, our pilot and we on board, please stop. The bravery of our crew and captain should be praised not criticised, they did the best they could for us, and everyone is safe.
 
I'm still wondering when someone will question why the pilot didn't divert to RAAF Learmonth (RAAF LMO) which would be close to his flight track when the engine failure occurred.

"RAAF Learmonth, also known as Learmonth Airport (IATA:LEA, ICAO: YPLM), is a joint use Royal Australian Air Force base and civil airport. It is located near the town of Exmouth on the north-west coast of Western Australia."

It isn't normally used but is suitable for an emergency landing. I also feel sure Port Hedland airport would be closer than returning to Perth.
 
waarmstrong said:
Actually, your post does denigrate the "nice" recounting of the observations of a passenger.
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There you go again with your snarkiness...it isn't funny, nor interesting, and adds nothing to the conversation.

den·i·grate1
/ˈdenəˌɡrāt/ disparage, belittle, deprecate, decry, cast aspersions on;

Please explain where I said anything of the sort. I simply added that which was not noted on the OP.
 
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Was not said in jest; your own disclaimer as a lead-in suggests you want to have your cake and eat it, as well.
 
waarmstrong said:
Was not said in jest; your own disclaimer as a lead-in suggests you want to have your cake and eat it, as well.
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What to hell has this response got to do with anything. I simply asked you to explain why you think my post #35 was anything more than being informative.
Personally I was impressed by this young girl's command of English. If you are incapable of understanding simple questions I suggest you ask someone to explain to you....maybe Madeline could help you there!
 
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