SushiMasterX
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LET ME POST THE OP (from old forum, but slightly updated) AND SUBSEQUENT FEW AFTER HERE:
They terminated. I began mediation complaint with Depnaker two weeks ago. Must leave? Date for meeting confirmed by both sides through Depnaker.
School in SE Jkt asked me to resign several times, I didn't. Letter on Friday, on door, from school reads, "Get your passport, EPO and ticket at school counter". It contained an itinerary for flight out (40 hour trip) mid next week.
I began mediation proceedings through Depnaker Jkt Central, immediately after the school sent a termination letter two weeks ago. They have contrived up a story that I haven't been compliant to their requirements (never given a warning letter on this). In all fairness, I had been sick for two weeks with pneumonia, but upon return completed all work for the quarter and semester (to their chagrin apparently). Seems plans had already been set in motion while out, but contract states that after three continuous weeks of illness they have the option to terminate. They had given one warning letter stating I needed to be caught up by a certain date, and I complied, but the KS seemed rather ticked that I was able to do that (several sleepless nights and arriving at work at 4-5am to catch up).
They then began to act sort of nasty and disagreeable with everything, even a few lies thrown in by the supervisor then. They wanted me out, but if I accepted the resignation pushed on me it meant I was liable for an assortment of fines and costs over the duration of the contract. The next day the VP and KS had it out with me in front of twenty teachers in the staff room, complaining about things that didn't need to be complained about. All work was completed. Finally, as the KS was berating me the VP stepped in and said "Finished", pointed at the door and abruptly left with KS to her office in the other direction. I sat at my desk for a half hour stunned. Had I actually just been fired? After 30 minutes and not a peep from any of my superiors I packed up and left. HR person called me just after I left the outer perimeter gate, "You must return and leave after we are done, and you must leave the correct way." I, 'The VP just said I was finished Mrs. If he does want me to return, then have him call me." Within an hour of this my school email was cut. Yep, I was canned. Off to Depnaker shortly after.
I was visited by Bekasi Imigrasi agents this past Tuesday. I showed them the mediation date that has already been set by Depnaker and they asked me to come to the kantor with passport, kittas, etc, anyhow and give my side of the story the next day.
This was typed up and checked. Twice the info was incorrectly quoted by the officer in Bahasa. I handed over my passport, as told I must do (given a receipt). Then left. Today the school planted a letter on my house door which basically says to come get my passport, EPO and ticket out.
I have received the request to attend the mediation at Depnaker and the school has received theirs also.
The school reps kept coming to my house banging away and yelling for a few days. I showed all the govt paperwork to the perumahan security guards and a school agent that was arriving there also (to deliver me to the school), on New Years Eve afternoon. The guard assured me they wouldn't be allowed to come in again.
Question one is, can the school do this? Or rather, can Imigrasi do this?
I said at the interrogation that it appears by the hukum/law that I must stay in the country and conclude my mediation first (30 day limit I've read). They didn't seem to agree and said, "We can make you go as we wish, we are able to investigate it ourselves and determine if you must leave".
Question two, Is there some law I can quote which says that I must stay in country when there is a Depnaker (or any govt entity involved) mediation date set?
Ever more questions:
It apparently would go to the Industrial Court next, if both sides could not find agreeable terms. Mediation date is for early January 2017. The school received their request to come yesterday, from Depnaker, as did I. My ticket out in a few days and EPO with passport are waiting at the school. Should I ignore this and stay in country to conclude Depnaker court case/mediation, despite Overstays? Is the school still responsible for me until I'm actually out of country, regardless of EPO?
Is there a higher-up at Imigrasi Bekasi/Jkt I can visit to plea my need to stay? One Imigrasi officer from Papua (finalizing my interrogation) was really nervous when I went from his office directly to the larger main building there with waiting room. I went in to use the restroom and then sat down to order a taxi. He rushed in through the door and spotted me and said panting and nervous, "Where, what, you..!". I said hi again and said, 'WC pak, WC'. He said, "WC, okay, WC. Ya, WC.", calming down finally and stepped back out, pulling his hp out as he did so. Hmmm, kinda odd ya?
I am in disbelief that the school can be so closely related with the imigrasi dept in Bekasi to be able to force my EPO when Depnaker has already set a mediation date, but I have been teaching here for 15 years and I've witnessed almost all sort of unbelievable things happen though.
Apologies if this has come up before. I have spent several hours trying to find a similar situation that may have occurred and been reported here, but still haven't found anything yet.
Thanks to anyone for any help with this.
Ticket out is back to other side of the planet. Indonesian wife and kids are quite upset razzled. I stand to lose ~300jt on this, holiday has been pretty sad around the house. At least the school monkeys won't be banging at the door again and peeking through our windows and yelling my name out like psychos for an hour. "MisssssTerrrrRRR SuuuuushiiiiII!"
-Frazzled n pissed
I have posted this and more in the old forum but will migrate to here now. Just learned there is this new lively forum.
old forum link: http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.o...68-help-school-forced-epo-thru-imigrasi-today
They terminated. I began mediation complaint with Depnaker two weeks ago. Must leave? Date for meeting confirmed by both sides through Depnaker.
School in SE Jkt asked me to resign several times, I didn't. Letter on Friday, on door, from school reads, "Get your passport, EPO and ticket at school counter". It contained an itinerary for flight out (40 hour trip) mid next week.
I began mediation proceedings through Depnaker Jkt Central, immediately after the school sent a termination letter two weeks ago. They have contrived up a story that I haven't been compliant to their requirements (never given a warning letter on this). In all fairness, I had been sick for two weeks with pneumonia, but upon return completed all work for the quarter and semester (to their chagrin apparently). Seems plans had already been set in motion while out, but contract states that after three continuous weeks of illness they have the option to terminate. They had given one warning letter stating I needed to be caught up by a certain date, and I complied, but the KS seemed rather ticked that I was able to do that (several sleepless nights and arriving at work at 4-5am to catch up).
They then began to act sort of nasty and disagreeable with everything, even a few lies thrown in by the supervisor then. They wanted me out, but if I accepted the resignation pushed on me it meant I was liable for an assortment of fines and costs over the duration of the contract. The next day the VP and KS had it out with me in front of twenty teachers in the staff room, complaining about things that didn't need to be complained about. All work was completed. Finally, as the KS was berating me the VP stepped in and said "Finished", pointed at the door and abruptly left with KS to her office in the other direction. I sat at my desk for a half hour stunned. Had I actually just been fired? After 30 minutes and not a peep from any of my superiors I packed up and left. HR person called me just after I left the outer perimeter gate, "You must return and leave after we are done, and you must leave the correct way." I, 'The VP just said I was finished Mrs. If he does want me to return, then have him call me." Within an hour of this my school email was cut. Yep, I was canned. Off to Depnaker shortly after.
I was visited by Bekasi Imigrasi agents this past Tuesday. I showed them the mediation date that has already been set by Depnaker and they asked me to come to the kantor with passport, kittas, etc, anyhow and give my side of the story the next day.
This was typed up and checked. Twice the info was incorrectly quoted by the officer in Bahasa. I handed over my passport, as told I must do (given a receipt). Then left. Today the school planted a letter on my house door which basically says to come get my passport, EPO and ticket out.
I have received the request to attend the mediation at Depnaker and the school has received theirs also.
The school reps kept coming to my house banging away and yelling for a few days. I showed all the govt paperwork to the perumahan security guards and a school agent that was arriving there also (to deliver me to the school), on New Years Eve afternoon. The guard assured me they wouldn't be allowed to come in again.
Question one is, can the school do this? Or rather, can Imigrasi do this?
I said at the interrogation that it appears by the hukum/law that I must stay in the country and conclude my mediation first (30 day limit I've read). They didn't seem to agree and said, "We can make you go as we wish, we are able to investigate it ourselves and determine if you must leave".
Question two, Is there some law I can quote which says that I must stay in country when there is a Depnaker (or any govt entity involved) mediation date set?
Ever more questions:
It apparently would go to the Industrial Court next, if both sides could not find agreeable terms. Mediation date is for early January 2017. The school received their request to come yesterday, from Depnaker, as did I. My ticket out in a few days and EPO with passport are waiting at the school. Should I ignore this and stay in country to conclude Depnaker court case/mediation, despite Overstays? Is the school still responsible for me until I'm actually out of country, regardless of EPO?
Is there a higher-up at Imigrasi Bekasi/Jkt I can visit to plea my need to stay? One Imigrasi officer from Papua (finalizing my interrogation) was really nervous when I went from his office directly to the larger main building there with waiting room. I went in to use the restroom and then sat down to order a taxi. He rushed in through the door and spotted me and said panting and nervous, "Where, what, you..!". I said hi again and said, 'WC pak, WC'. He said, "WC, okay, WC. Ya, WC.", calming down finally and stepped back out, pulling his hp out as he did so. Hmmm, kinda odd ya?
I am in disbelief that the school can be so closely related with the imigrasi dept in Bekasi to be able to force my EPO when Depnaker has already set a mediation date, but I have been teaching here for 15 years and I've witnessed almost all sort of unbelievable things happen though.
Apologies if this has come up before. I have spent several hours trying to find a similar situation that may have occurred and been reported here, but still haven't found anything yet.
Thanks to anyone for any help with this.
Ticket out is back to other side of the planet. Indonesian wife and kids are quite upset razzled. I stand to lose ~300jt on this, holiday has been pretty sad around the house. At least the school monkeys won't be banging at the door again and peeking through our windows and yelling my name out like psychos for an hour. "MisssssTerrrrRRR SuuuuushiiiiII!"
-Frazzled n pissed
I have posted this and more in the old forum but will migrate to here now. Just learned there is this new lively forum.
old forum link: http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.o...68-help-school-forced-epo-thru-imigrasi-today