Have any teachers managed to get KITAP?

[komodosambal]

Hi everyone,

I've joined the forum because I have been an SMA teacher for 4 years on a KITAS (sekolah nasional bukan satuan pendidikan kerja sama / internasional). Eventually, I would like to become WNI.

However, the advice from agents is that it's unlikely I will be able to apply for a KITAP because I'm only in a teacher position. Usually a KITAP would be for those in higher positions in their organisations.

Has anyone been in this position, or does anyone have any advice?

Terima kasih sebelumnya.

 

[snpark]

So the experts have said no but you just want a 2nd opinion

What's your passport

 

[komodosambal]

The agent said unlikely, but if I'd like, they'll try to apply on my behalf. I'm not really after a second opinion, I'd like to know if anyone has tried to do it before, and what the result was.

Passport - AU

 

[snpark]

Problem is things have changed a lot many times very recently even this year several times

 

[jstar]

I’m not a teacher and someone in that position will tell me if I’m wrong, but I heard from WNA and agents the same thing:

Only people who are in executive functions, retirees, ex WNI and people married to Indonesian citizens, can get an ITAP.

Obviously after some (3 for most cases) years on an ITAS.

 

[marcus]

... the advice from agents is that it's unlikely I will be able to apply for a KITAP because I'm only in a teacher position. Usually a KITAP would be for those in higher positions in their organisations.

I know well about Immigration's Regulation but just a little about Work Regulation .
In relation to Immigration , it is possible to get a Work KITAP (see the rule below) .

In relation to the Government's Manpower Department , I don't know if your employer can get its ok for giving you a 5 years work contract .

I suggest you to first ask your employer if he/she can offer you the 5 years work contract & sponsor you for the 5 years Work KITAP . If he/she agrees , you or an agent can later ask the Manpower Department (maybe through https://tka-online.kemnaker.go.id/default.asp) .

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PP no.40 Year 2023 - free translation
Article 167
(l) An application to change the status of an ITAS to an ITAP shall be submitted ... to the Head of the Immigration Office ...
(2) Foreigners as referred to in paragraph (1) include:
a. clergy;
b. workers;
......
(3) The status of an ITAS becomes an ITAP for foreigners as referred to in paragraph (2) letters a to d provided that the foreigner in question has been in Indonesia for at least 3 consecutive years from the date the first ITAS was granted.
......

I would like to become WNI.

An easier way is to marry an Indonesian .

The agent said unlikely, but if I'd like, they'll try to apply on my behalf.

An agent can only apply on your behalf when you don't need a sponsor , for example for an investor Visa/KITAS/KITAP .

In your present situation (with Work KITAS) , the agent (if there is one) is/will be applying for Immigration processes on behalf of your employer .

 

[Dave70]

Eventually, I would like to become WNI.

You want to swap your AU passport for ID passport? Why, oh why?

 

[harryopal1]

I don't see komodosambal saying he is Australian. If he is and is looking to give up Australian citizenship this would seem a very unwise decision. At any stage in life I have always asked what is my fall back if things go spare. Long term there is losing pension and Medicare entitlements and easy access for medical or other reasons to return. One hopes that Indonesia weathers the uncertain economic problems created with the Middle East crisis but it is possible that things could turn ugly down the track. Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship so I find it hard to see advantages in becoming an Indonesian citizen.

 

[Balifrog]

You want to swap your AU passport for ID passport? Why, oh why?

"Love" ?

 

[Helpful Herbert]

One hopes that Indonesia weathers the uncertain economic problems created with the Middle East crisis but it is possible that things could turn ugly down the track. Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship so I find it hard to see advantages in becoming an Indonesian citizen.

Especially since the KITAP is such a good option

 

[centurion]

Hi everyone,

I've joined the forum because I have been an SMA teacher for 4 years on a KITAS (sekolah nasional bukan satuan pendidikan kerja sama / internasional). Eventually, I would like to become WNI.

However, the advice from agents is that it's unlikely I will be able to apply for a KITAP because I'm only in a teacher position. Usually a KITAP would be for those in higher positions in their organisations.

Has anyone been in this position, or does anyone have any advice?

Terima kasih sebelumnya.

For employees with a work permit, only president directors can get KITAP.

 

[gemima]

For employees with a work permit, only president directors can get KITAP.

This is the feedback I also got from my agent - I'm a regular director and I cant get it. Next time we update the deeds I'll try change to president director to get it.

 

[centurion]

This is the feedback I also got from my agent - I'm a regular director and I cant get it. Next time we update the deeds I'll try change to president director to get it.

Written in the current regulations.

 

[marcus]

PP no.34 Year 2021 ABOUT USE OF FOREIGN LABOR
Article 1
4. RPTKA is a plan for the use of foreign workers for specific positions and for a specific period.
Article 14
(5) If the prospective foreign worker's data and documents ... are declared complete and correct and the foreign worker's employer has made the fee's payment, the Minister or designated official will issue the RPTKA Approval.
(7) The Minister or designated official as referred to in paragraph (5) will submit the prospective foreign worker's data to Immigration as a recommendation for obtaining a visa and stay permit for work.

Article 17
(1) Approval of the RPTKA for temporary work is granted for a maximum period of 6 months and cannot be extended.
(2) Approval of the RPTKA for work lasting more than 6 months and Approval of non-fee RPTKA are granted for a maximum period of 2 years and may be extended.
(3) Approval of the KEK RPTKA is granted for a maximum period of 5 years and may be extended.
(4) Approval of the KEK RPTKA for director or commissioner positions is granted once and is valid for as long as the foreign worker in question serves as a director or commissioner.

KEK : are a strategic government policy designed to develop centers of economic growth, promote national economic equality, support industrialization, and increase employment in Indonesia. These zones offer ultimate facilities and conveniences for both domestic and foreign investors (from https://kek.go.id/id)

Article 21
(6) The validity period for each RPTKA extension approval ... is a maximum of 2 years, and RPTKA extension approval in a Special Economic Zone (KEK) is a maximum of 5 years.
(7) RPTKA extension approval is used as a recommendation for obtaining a residence permit for work purposes for foreign workers.

From Google AI :
Special Economic Zones (KEK) in Indonesia are spread across 25 operational areas with different specializations, such as manufacturing, tourism, and technology.
Examples :
a) Java: Kendal Special Economic Zone (Central Java), Batang Special Economic Zone (Central Java), Gresik Special Economic Zone (East Java), Singhasari Special Economic Zone (Malang), Lido Special Economic Zone (Bogor), Tanjung Lesung Special Economic Zone (Banten), and Banten International b) Education, Technology, and Health Special Economic Zone. Bali & Nusa Tenggara: Sanur Special Economic Zone (Bali), Kura-Kura Bali Special Economic Zone, Mandalika Special Economic Zone (Lombok), and Tanjung Kelayang Special Economic Zone (Bangka Belitung)

 

[centurion]

PP no.34 Year 2021 ABOUT USE OF FOREIGN LABOR
Article 1
4. RPTKA is a plan for the use of foreign workers for specific positions and for a specific period.
Article 14
(5) If the prospective foreign worker's data and documents ... are declared complete and correct and the foreign worker's employer has made the fee's payment, the Minister or designated official will issue the RPTKA Approval.
(7) The Minister or designated official as referred to in paragraph (5) will submit the prospective foreign worker's data to Immigration as a recommendation for obtaining a visa and stay permit for work.

Article 17
(1) Approval of the RPTKA for temporary work is granted for a maximum period of 6 months and cannot be extended.
(2) Approval of the RPTKA for work lasting more than 6 months and Approval of non-fee RPTKA are granted for a maximum period of 2 years and may be extended.
(3) Approval of the KEK RPTKA is granted for a maximum period of 5 years and may be extended.
(4) Approval of the KEK RPTKA for director or commissioner positions is granted once and is valid for as long as the foreign worker in question serves as a director or commissioner.

KEK : are a strategic government policy designed to develop centers of economic growth, promote national economic equality, support industrialization, and increase employment in Indonesia. These zones offer ultimate facilities and conveniences for both domestic and foreign investors (from https://kek.go.id/id)

Article 21
(6) The validity period for each RPTKA extension approval ... is a maximum of 2 years, and RPTKA extension approval in a Special Economic Zone (KEK) is a maximum of 5 years.
(7) RPTKA extension approval is used as a recommendation for obtaining a residence permit for work purposes for foreign workers.

From Google AI :
Special Economic Zones (KEK) in Indonesia are spread across 25 operational areas with different specializations, such as manufacturing, tourism, and technology.
Examples :
a) Java: Kendal Special Economic Zone (Central Java), Batang Special Economic Zone (Central Java), GresikR Special Economic Zone (East Java), Singhasari Special Economic Zone (Malang), Lido Special Economic Zone (Bogor), Tanjung Lesung Special Economic Zone (Banten), and Banten International b) Education, Technology, and Health Special Economic Zone. Bali & Nusa Tenggara: Sanur Special Economic Zone (Bali), Kura-Kura Bali Special Economic Zone, Mandalika Special Economic Zone (Lombok), and Tanjung Kelayang Special Economic Zone (Bangka Belitung)

This is about work permits the question was about KITAS/KITAP.

 

[snpark]

Still need a sponsor though right

 

[marcus]

For employees with a work permit, only president directors can get KITAP.

Written in the current regulations.

This is about work permits the question was about KITAS/KITAP.

(marcus' Note : your comment regarding the Work Regulation I posted)

As I said in post no.6 , I was not aware of the Work Regulation , but as you said the above and didn't provide the 'regulations' , I searched and found the one in post no.14 .

So to make my position clearer (please also see posts no.6 & 14) , I see the OP's case depending on 3 participants :

1. The OP's employer/sponsor/guarantor : the one who will decide about : OP's new work contract, submitting the RPTKA extension, and requesting the KITAP ;

2. The Manpower Department : that may approve the RPTKA extension and recommend the KITAP issuance to Immigration .

3. The Immigration Department : that may issue the KITAP.

 

[Dave70]

This is the feedback I also got from my agent - I'm a regular director and I cant get it. Next time we update the deeds I'll try change to president director to get it.

However, your Notary may not be able to change to president director if your company only has one director. You can only be president director if your company has at least 2 directors.

 

[centurion]

However, your Notary may not be able to change to president director if your company only has one director. You can only be president director if your company has at least 2 directors.

The regulation uses the term "pengurus tertinggi", so if there is no board of directors but only one, the sole director is eligible for ITAP.

 

[Dave70]

The regulation uses the term "pengurus tertinggi", so if there is no board of directors but only one, the sole director is eligible for ITAP.

That means gemina should have gotten her ITAP.