Exotic foods

[jstar]

I know why it is so cheap!

Obviously you can get that Victoria Edam ball much cheaper online via Tokopedia or so.

But I guess many expats or visitors craving for cheese don’t (know how to) do that and buy at GL anyway.

Talking about exotic food as in mahal; I think the pastry, desserts and kue here are very expensive. Easily 40-65K for a slice of cheesecake or red velvet or some tiramisu. And the quality of the cheaper ones at the likes of Maco/JCo/BreadTalk/….

 

[jstar]

I tried the Cat the Fiddle cheesecake in MOI

Not bad but also rather expensive.

They told me it is not even made in Indonesia but imported (almost) every day from Singapore?!

Talking about exotic…

 

[Wisnu]

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I know why it is so cheap!

I took the pic from Tokopedia as I don't have edam but I know the seller in Bali well, he has good reputation and has been running his small shop for decades

 

[Wisnu]

As I'm not expat, just a retired TKI, live in kampung, we can't afford makanan exotic mahal, prefer to cook out self. For pastry, frozen danish pastry and phylo pastry make our life easier. Much easier compared when we had to make our own tempe in Kazakhstan and Egypt where purchased humidifier for that purpose.

 

[atlantis]

I believe many cafe in Bali and jakarta sell this croissant at Rp. 15k or even more.

Exactly. What end consumers often ignore is that many (most) pastry shop and cafe here use frozen solutions of the like offered by Bon Patis, Bon Chef or a few others. They just multiply by 3 to 5 or more the price they bought them....
@Balifrog the croissant a @Wisnu refers to are 30g per pieces meaning that they are pretty small by French standard. You would probably recognize the french touch in them since the head bakers in these companies are usually French
They are quite decent and I would be very surprised you didn't came across them or their 40g Ready to Eat version in most cafe or pastry shop in Bali or even at upmarket resorts. The 30g are frozen dough which explains their price. They come in carton of 160 pieces, exist in two version (croissant and croissant butter) and are typically sold to resorts and hotels for their breakfast need, The RTE version are part baked and sold to cafe and pastry shop and are more expensive at under 6.000 / pcs in cardbox of 40.

 

[Balifrog]

I believe many cafe in Bali and jakarta sell this croissant at Rp. 15k or even more

I am pretty sure !
Sadly even in France many, many bakeries just use frozen industrial products nowadays.

A new bakery opened in Sanur (Le Croissant) just bought some croissants from them today.
Report after tmrw morning breakfast.
Their baguette I rate it a small 3/5....

 

[Balifrog]

As I'm not expat, just a retired TKI, live in kampung, we can't afford makanan exotic mahal, prefer to cook out self. For pastry, frozen danish pastry and phylo pastry make our life easier. Much easier compared when we had to make our own tempe in Kazakhstan and Egypt where purchased humidifier for that purpose.

Retired construction mechanic workshop manager here.
But we Socialist frogs have usually decent pensions !
Way enough for Bali life, even French style.

 

[jstar]

Any good Pain au Chocolat? (They should hang the person who translated that into chocolate croissant )

 

[atlantis]

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This however makes me cringe....
You see the small flag "Product of Holland" on the bottom right? That's total BS. As the label says it's produced by PT Pacific Lacto which is an Indonesian dairy company based in Tangerang and JKT.
It's further confirmed by the BPOM number which starts with MD which stands for Makanan Dalam, at the difference of any imported product whose BPOM number start with ML (Makanan Luar)
For the record PT Pacific Lacto also produces a barely edible "parmesan" under the brand Green Valley... and they label it "product of USA"

 

[Balifrog]

Exactly. What end consumers often ignore is that many (most) pastry shop and cafe here use frozen solutions of the like offered by Bon Patis, Bon Chef or a few others. They just multiply by 3 to 5 or more the price they bought them....
@Balifrog the croissant a @Wisnu refers to are 30g per pieces meaning that they are pretty small by French standard. You would probably recognize the french touch in them since the head bakers in these companies are usually French
They are quite decent and I would be very surprised you didn't came across them or their 40g Ready to Eat version in most cafe or pastry shop in Bali or even at upmarket resorts. The 30g are frozen dough which explains their price. They come in carton of 160 pieces, exist in two version (croissant and croissant butter) and are typically sold to resorts and hotels for their breakfast need, The RTE version are part baked and sold to cafe and pastry shop and are more expensive at under 6.000 / pcs in cardbox of 40.

I used to buy croissants and baguette from Carrefour, Sunset Road.
Baker French, everything prepared and cooked on the spot. Top quality. Imported flour and butter.
When Carrefour closed, I used Daily Baguette, not bad but pricey.
As I mentionned, a new one opened in Sanur (Le Croissant). I was there this morning, and had a look.
Equipment is top, oven, chambre de pousse (growing chamber ?) and laminoir for the pate feuilletée. This is the dough used for croissant, pain au chocolat, etc...

 

[Balifrog]

Any good Pain au Chocolat? (They should hang the person who translated that into chocolate croissant )

Answer tmrw breakfast !

 

[Balifrog]

This however makes me cringe....
You see the small flag "Product of Holland" on the bottom right? That's total BS. As the label says it's produced by PT Pacific Lacto which is an Indonesian dairy company based in Tangerang and JKT.
It's further confirm by the BPOM number which starts with MD which stands for Makanan Dalam, at the difference of any imported product whose BPOM number start with ML (Makanan Luar)
For the record PT Pacific Lacto also produces a barely edible "parmesan" under the brand Green Valley... and they label it "product of USA"

Was my first thought also !

 

[atlantis]

Any good Pain au Chocolat? (They should hang the person who translated that into chocolate croissant )

The frozen solutions are not good imho. The dough part is OK but the use of low quality chocolate mess up the whole thing. In this case I prefer that they call it Danish Pastry instead of Pain au chocolat or chocolatine.

 

[atlantis]

Their baguette I rate it a small 3/5....

Bon Patis do some frozen half baguette (150g) which are OK for the days you don't want to go out to a bakery.
As most frozen product they are only good when they have just been out of the oven. 2 hours after you would go through the same disappointment you would have with any baguette bought in a supermarket in France.
I made my dinner last night with a couple of them, a Gorgonzola Cremoso and a bottle of Mercurey. Life all of a sudden becomes wonderful when you are in such good company.

 

[Balifrog]

As most frozen product they are only good when they have just been out of the oven

Agreed.
When I use frozen baguette, I take it out of the freezer, sprinkle it with water, oven for about 10 min at 175C, and let it cool down before making my sandwich.

 

[jstar]

This however makes me cringe....
You see the small flag "Product of Holland" on the bottom right? That's total BS. As the label says it's produced by PT Pacific Lacto which is an Indonesian dairy company based in Tangerang and JKT.

I’m more impressed by the fact you could read the label in that picture!
But it is somewhat weird and deceiving ya with these logo’s and branding ; the Uniekaas is rather well known in The Netherlands, quite some supermarkets have that brand, mainly the ones that compete on price.

What I do like here is that they also sell Mimolette. Very exotic in many countries. It’s an orangy version (carotene) of the Edam cheese, originating from the north of France. (Interesting history.) Online it is sometimes cheaper here than its Dutch counterpart.

Answer tmrw breakfast !

Late breakfast? In Jakarta I kind of like those Chocolatines from Fore, the coffee shop chain. Never found any real good ones in Bali.

 

[Samoerai]

Actually, not so 'mahal'. Almost same price as in 'Belanda'.

 

[Samoerai]

This however makes me cringe....
You see the small flag "Product of Holland" on the bottom right? That's total BS. As the label says it's produced by PT Pacific Lacto which is an Indonesian dairy company based in Tangerang and JKT.
It's further confirmed by the BPOM number which starts with MD which stands for Makanan Dalam, at the difference of any imported product whose BPOM number start with ML (Makanan Luar)
For the record PT Pacific Lacto also produces a barely edible "parmesan" under the brand Green Valley... and they label it "product of USA"

Well, then if that is the case the Edam cheese is mahal.

 

[jstar]

Depends mainly on the quality of course; perhaps they follow the Dutch production processes? If the QA/QC is supervised by the Dutch company…

In the Netherlands you can say that local hard cheeses are roughly €1 to €1,20 per 100 gram. (Not in the fancy tourist shops in Amsterdam or Delft of course.) Import as Emmentaler and Gruyère can be €2 to €2,20 per 100 gram.

 

[Samoerai]

Depends mainly on the quality of course; perhaps they follow the Dutch production processes? If the QA/QC is supervised by the Dutch company…

In the Netherlands you can say that local hard cheeses are roughly €1 to €1,20 per 100 gram. (Not in the fancy tourist shops in Amsterdam or Delft of course.) Import as Emmentaler and Gruyère can be €2 to €2,20 per 100 gram.

I just avoid all products made of local milk, like cheese and chocolates. It's not edible.