Shortage of 498,000 teachers in Indonesia next year?

[Balifrog]

This was in reply to posts about studying Arabic and how it is perceived by many persons that classroom hours and Indonesian education budgets might be better spent on languages such as English or Chinese.

That's it !

 

[Hawk256]

It is not the same since there is no central religious text which states that it was 'revealed' in 'clear English language' and that this was a 'divine choice' which 'must be preserved'. That would be ridiculous!

I was quoting the Quran in post #58 with regards to the use of Arabic.

This was in reply to posts about studying Arabic and how it is perceived by many persons that classroom hours and Indonesian education budgets might be better spent on languages such as English or Chinese.

If your post was meant to show how experts have identified almost 300 non-Arabic words in the Quran despite the Quran apparently contradicting itself by stating that it was 'revealed' in 'clear Arabic language' because there were loan words used...well, that is probably a better compromise than hard-liners would allow.

It doesn't contradict itself. I thought that was clearly explained. It was the language they used. All languages have borrowed words. You are being fecesisous.

 

[snpark]

. You are being fecesisous.

Facetious

The only word using all 5 vowels in their correct alphabetical order

 

[jstar]

And me thinking it was a loanword from sh!tty .

 

[Pak Tani]

...that is probably a better compromise than hard-liners would allow.

Actually, that is not a compromise but rather an opinion -among other opinions- which is pretty mainstream in Islam. It is very likely that in the pre-Islamic era Arabs, their culture and their language were influenced by other peoples they interacted with. So they likely adopted words from foreign languages and Arabized them and started using them in their language (Arabic). I don't think this is far fetched because this happened (and still happens) in many languages. To me this offers a plausible explanation for why someone can find Arabic words of foreign origin in the Quran without contradicting a verse that says that the Quran was reveiled in clear Arabic.
Just like the word 'cotton' from the example sentence in my earlier post (which was indeed not from a divine revelation, well noted!), despite that it has its origins in a different language with a different alphabet, it is a proper English word. And nobody would contest that. Ah well, maybe some would..

 

[Hawk256]

It doesn't contradict itself. I thought that was clearly explained. It was the language they used. All languages have borrowed words. You are being fecesisous.

I thought spellcheck fixed that. Oh well. I'm not going to edit it because it's funny.