Questioning the Value of Cow (and similar) Milk

[marcus]

a) Globally, 65% to 70% of the population exhibits milk's lactose intolerance... White Northern Europeans & descendents, ranging between 2% and 15%, 50% to 80% in South Americans, 60% to 80% in Western Africans, and nearly 100% in some East Asian populations (rare in children younger than 5). From https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK532285/

b) Vitamin D & Magnesium are important for the human body to absorb calcium efficiently. From Google AI.
From https://www.healthline.com/health/is-milk-bad-for-you, cow milk has no vitamin D, and has Ca : Mg ratio of 2:0.17 or 1.5:0.13 or 1:0.087 , too far from the ideal 2:1 Ca:Mg ratio (though many modern experts suggest a 1.5:1 or 1:1 ratio). From Google AI

c) Study: a (Ca:Mg) ratio above 2:1 has been associated with increased risk of metabolic, inflammatory and cardiovascular disorders.
Conclusion: All age groups had Ca: Mg ratio above the optimal 2:1 ratio and in a subset of participants, a higher Ca: Mg ratio was associated with greater inflammation. From https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6574898/, 2019

d) in a 12-year Harvard study of 78,000 mostly white women, those who drank milk 2 or more times a day had a higher incidence of hip fractures than those who rarely drank milk. Similarly, a study out of Sweden found that higher milk intake was associated with greater incidence of bone fracture. Although the overall results are mixed regarding milk and bone health, most research shows no benefit to drinking milk for bone health. From https://www.pcrm.org/good-nutrition...concerns-about-dairy/calcium-and-strong-bones, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine

e) data shows that countries with the highest rates of milk consumption (such as Sweden and the United States) paradoxically report some of the highest incidences of hip fractures. From Google AI

f) studies reporting on dairy product consumption, 3 in 4 showed no relationship between dairy product consumption and bone mineral density (BMD)... In 7 retrospective studies milk consumption had no impact on fracture risk, bone mineral content, or BMD. From https://www.aafp.org/afp/2005/1101/p1894a American Family Physician

 

[Balifrog]

Make me drink milk, I vomit instantly....
Since I am a kid.

 

[harryopal1]

a) Globally, 65% to 70% of the population exhibits milk's lactose intolerance... White Northern Europeans & descendents, ranging between 2% and 15%, 50% to 80% in South Americans, 60% to 80% in Western Africans, and nearly 100% in some East Asian populations (rare in children younger than 5). From https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK532285/

b) Vitamin D & Magnesium are important for the human body to absorb calcium efficiently. From Google AI.
From https://www.healthline.com/health/is-milk-bad-for-you, cow milk has no vitamin D, and has Ca : Mg ratio of 2:0.17 or 1.5:0.13 or 1:0.087 , too far from the ideal 2:1 Ca:Mg ratio (though many modern experts suggest a 1.5:1 or 1:1 ratio). From Google AI

c) Study: a (Ca:Mg) ratio above 2:1 has been associated with increased risk of metabolic, inflammatory and cardiovascular disorders.
Conclusion: All age groups had Ca: Mg ratio above the optimal 2:1 ratio and in a subset of participants, a higher Ca: Mg ratio was associated with greater inflammation. From https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6574898/, 2019

d) in a 12-year Harvard study of 78,000 mostly white women, those who drank milk 2 or more times a day had a higher incidence of hip fractures than those who rarely drank milk. Similarly, a study out of Sweden found that higher milk intake was associated with greater incidence of bone fracture. Although the overall results are mixed regarding milk and bone health, most research shows no benefit to drinking milk for bone health. From https://www.pcrm.org/good-nutrition...concerns-about-dairy/calcium-and-strong-bones, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine

e) data shows that countries with the highest rates of milk consumption (such as Sweden and the United States) paradoxically report some of the highest incidences of hip fractures. From Google AI

f) studies reporting on dairy product consumption, 3 in 4 showed no relationship between dairy product consumption and bone mineral density (BMD)... In 7 retrospective studies milk consumption had no impact on fracture risk, bone mineral content, or BMD. From https://www.aafp.org/afp/2005/1101/p1894a American Family Physician

Post WW2 Australia had a program of free milk at school for school children. Most of us enjoyed drinking milk and grew into adults with the never ending assertion by the dairy industry about all the alleged great health benefits of drinking milk. A very successful strategy of public manipulation for commercial advantage. And now it appears that so much of that was just propaganda. Perhaps not on a par with distortions used by the tobacco industry and not as much risk but a sad reflection on how commerce overrides genuine public interest.

 

[Balifrog]

Post WW2 Australia had a program of free milk at school for school children. Most of us enjoyed drinking milk and grew into adults with the never ending assertion by the dairy industry about all the alleged great health benefits of drinking milk. A very successful strategy of public manipulation for commercial advantage. And now it appears that so much of that was just propaganda. Perhaps not on a par with distortions used by the tobacco industry and not as much risk but a sad reflection on how commerce overrides genuine public interest.

Same in Belgium and many European countries. The target was to absorb the excess production...

 

[jstar]

Luckily distributors like Nestlé and Frisian Flag have a huge market in Indonesia….

And with powdered milk formulations it’s even worse.

 

[Jaime C]

I drank lots of milk in grade school and Jr High. As an adult, I’ll eat ice cream, cheeses, sour cream, but rarely plain milk. Mostly if I eat cereal, I guess.

My body can sure tell when I eat some dairy products, though. I had some Diamond coconut ice cream a few days ago, and within 45 minutes had to urgently go to the toilet a couple of times. White rice also does this to me, so I generally try and avoid it.

 

[harryopal1]

Unfortunately Nestles push their powdered baby milk in countries with many taking it up because it seems modern and thinking it must be special. The reality is that natural mother's milk is far superior and in places with poor water quality the results are terrible. There is a place for it if a mother cannot produce milk but othewise it is a bad choice. In public hospitals in Australia they used to give new mothers a free tin of baby milk powder to try and get them off breast feeding. Not sure if they still do that.