Hello :-)

[steveandpenny]

Welcome to the forum form another in manado , but I bought my American wife with me and our dog.

 

[lifelongexpat]

Thanks

 

[Trickraca]

welcome from north Jakarta/PIK neighborhood.

 

[lifelongexpat]

welcome from north Jakarta/PIK neighborhood.

Thanks Generally not many expats in North Jakarta so good to meet someone.

 

[waarmstrong]

Not many Western expats, that is.

 

[lifelongexpat]

That's true.

 

[Trickraca]

Very true. the few expats i see are definately not from the states. ive been here about a year in PIK and rarely see expats at all. usually at the malls.

 

[Annet]

Hello, i'm new here.
I am from Jakarta and got back to Indonesia after Paris.
Now trying to settle in Bali. Wow it's like a different country, and they almost treat me as a foreigner.
I found this site while searching for 'KITAS' (for my French husband.
What I want to know is do you need to leave the country to collect a telex from the embassy (in my husband's case it's the Indonesian
embassy in Paris)?
This is what a visa agent in Ubud told us, but I have not seen any mention of telex on several sites. I am so confused! Help help!

 

[Annet]

Oh I'd just like to say that strangely, despite the administration mess I've been going through these past 3 months, I am uncapable of
getting stressed in Bali. i luuuuurve Bali.

 

[Daniel50]

Hello, i'm new here.
I found this site while searching for 'KITAS' (for my French husband.
What I want to know is do you need to leave the country to collect a telex from the embassy (in my husband's case it's the Indonesian
embassy in Paris)?
This is what a visa agent in Ubud told us, but I have not seen any mention of telex on several sites. I am so confused! Help help!

Hi Annet. I am sure there are others on here more able to help then myself. I am sure it would help forum members if you specified which Visa your husband is getting. Is he in Paris and they could telex a Retirement Visa or a Social Visit Visa? There is also a category, on this forum for visa questions.

 

[William King]

As far as I know you have to process the telex overseas, but you can do it in any Indonesian embassy, so depending whete he is Singapore might be a better option.

 

[steveandpenny]

Also you can do it at any indoniesian embassy or Consulate. As far as i know we did ours in a cosulate office in San Francisco

 

[Annet]

Hi again and thank you Daniel50, Stevenandpenny for your responses.
Today, out of sheer fed-upness of doing research on the internet and asking around - all with different answers - for the past 3 months, I ended up giving almost all the documents to an agent at the post office in Ubud and asked him to handle my husband's KITAS!
It costs an arm and a leg but the thought of taking the scooter down to Denpasar from Ubud at 6 in the morining and waiting endless hours at the Immigration office won over.
I'm feeling quite relieved now!
So, for those who are fed up of doing research, here's how it goes (for me atleast, as different agent, different documents (!)
Documents I submitted, all ORIGINALS
- Birth certificate (this I had lost and had to do it all over again in Jakarta. It took 3 weeks because of Lebaran)
- Kartu Keluarga (my super kind village chief - the Kelian - took me under his wing and I am now officially in his family card
- Balinese KTP (this, also thanks to my village chief)
- Colour photocopy of hubby's passport, including all social budaya visa extensions
- Marriage certificates - issued in Indonesia, as we got married in Indonesia,, and a certificate issued by the French consulate in Jakarta
PLUS the translation into Indonesian by a sworn translator (had it done in 3 days and it cost Rp 600,000 for 2 pages)
- A document certifying that the French consulate had Nothing against our marriage (we lost the original so we are only submitting the photocopy, fingers crossed it will work)
- A print out of the 3 last months of my bank statement (I lost my bank book so the bank printed out the statements for Rp 3,500 per page)
- My husband's KIPEM issued by the village office - done in one day for Rp 65,000
(I also had a KIPEM but now I don't need one as I have a KTP)
- There was another document I just got this morning: a letter from the village signed by the village chief stating where you live, but this was required by another agent and not by the Ubud Post office agent.

Surprisingly, a sponsorship letter written by me, the Indonesian wife, is not required.

Indonesia has gone through a scandal of corruption concerning the electronic KTP. Hence thousands of Indonesians are now without a proper KTP but, like me, hold a piece of paper issued by the Kecamatan and Kabupaten. They scan your fingerprints, take your picture but give you a piece of paper without your photo which replaces a KTP)

The agent told me that the original documents would be given back to me within 3 or 4 days and to my relief he did not even take my husband's passport as he had already scanned it.

In Paris, about a week before going back to Bali, we are to go to the Indonesian embassy where the telex should have be already sitting pretty waiting for us. Then the man at consulat, if he is in a good mood, will give my husband a visa called something like 'marriage visa' in his passport.

Mais ce n'est pas fini!

When we arrive in Bali, we are to continue the process of the KITAS (not sure yet whether to go directly to the Immigration office of the Post office)... and voilà! I read about interviews being held either at the Immigration office or in our home! Is that true?

By the way the service includes the multiple exit permit.

Hope this helps anyone going through the stress like my husband and I did.

Oh by the way I had everything wrong from the start: lost my birth certificate, annulled my Jakarta KTP and KK and my name in my birth certificate does not exactly match the names on my passport and KTP!
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[Annet]

Thank you William King!

 

[steveandpenny]

Hope all goes smooth now. With a good agent he (or she ) can produce minor papers you will need and smooth out the winkles.
To me i know we could probly do it ourselfs but god i dont want that stress, so i pay a arm and a leg too. I also have freinds that tried to get it done them selfs (different kind of visa ) and damn it was a nightmare and probly cost them more seeing they had to sit in singapore waiting for allmost a month.
I belive its the same anywhere in the world but different.
So cheers to a happy and stressfree life

 

[Annet]

Cheers Steveandpenny!

Yes I don't think I could take in all that stress and hassle. Besides I'm working on my building permit now and geeze that's another nightmare!

 

[steveandpenny]

Oh my but this will pass also

 

[harryopal1]

LifelongExpat, what part of Africa? I reported out of Kenya as a journalist for a couple of years and then got into trading in handcrafts so been backwards and forwards a bit to a few nation states but you need 10 lifetimes with 54 countries.

 

[lifelongexpat]

LifelongExpat, what part of Africa? I reported out of Kenya as a journalist for a couple of years and then got into trading in handcrafts so been backwards and forwards a bit to a few nation states but you need 10 lifetimes with 54 countries.

I was based in Togo for almost 2 years and crossed over into Ghana quite regularly (the border was 1km from our house).

 

[harryopal1]

LifelongExpat, among your various living places you mention Africa. What part of Africa? I reported out of Kenya as a journalist for a couple of years and then got into trading in handcrafts so been backwards and forwards a bit to a few nation states but you need 10 lifetimes with 54 countries.