Extended SIX weeks more

[gemima]

OK looking at a video on entering malls with QR code...now I admit I have been misunderstanding this QR thing a bit....I've always thought that we'd show our vaccine card to the security and they scan OUR card and let us in (kinda I've seen in a couple videos in Singapore of people putting up their card to an automatic reader in a hawker center).

Turned out that we actually scan the pedulilindungi/mall's QR code with our peduli's app. So it won't necessarily show our info to anybody, but it'll still track our existence there...as the youtube video shows say we're person number 250 out of 2,000 in that mall...so i guess if we're at number 2001 then the security will say we have to wait until somebody gets out...

Will try to test it sooner or later...

The whole thing is actually starting to annoy me. I enter my apartment residence from inside a mall. So I need to scan into the mall. Yesterday when I got home from work they also have a scanner set up at the entrance to my residence (so I need to scan out of the mall to enter my residence).
This morning I had to scan into the mall and out again at the main entrance.
I also noticed today that the time from scan till you get the confirmation is a bit long - less than a minute but long enough to back people up.
I do think some of the confusion is people not understanding how it works but also the lagging.

 

[Bad_azz]

The whole thing is actually starting to annoy me. I enter my apartment residence from inside a mall. So I need to scan into the mall. Yesterday when I got home from work they also have a scanner set up at the entrance to my residence (so I need to scan out of the mall to enter my residence).
This morning I had to scan into the mall and out again at the main entrance.
I also noticed today that the time from scan till you get the confirmation is a bit long - less than a minute but long enough to back people up.
I do think some of the confusion is people not understanding how it works but also the lagging.

Oh you have my deepest sympathies for that, I couldn't imagine anything worse than living in an apartment in a mall.

 

[nd_eric_77]

Oh you have my deepest sympathies for that, I couldn't imagine anything worse than living in an apartment in a mall.

Shots fired!

 

[snpark]

Oh you have my deepest sympathies for that, I couldn't imagine anything worse than living in an apartment in a mall.

Wow

 

[gemima]

Oh you have my deepest sympathies for that, I couldn't imagine anything worse than living in an apartment in a mall.

I actually quite like it - it's a very quiet mall which helps (I couldn't live over a busy one).
I have everything I need (gym/ supermarket/ coffee) close and my office is 10 mins drive away.
I live alone so I prefer an apartment over a house for my personal safety - and I like the anonymity its gives me in a city where I stick out like a sore thumb (I wouldn't like to be the subject of gossip in a neighbourhood about who visits me for instance).
But the QR scanning thing might make me change my mind

 

[gemima]

I actually quite like it - it's a very quiet mall which helps (I couldn't live over a busy one).
I have everything I need (gym/ supermarket/ coffee) close and my office is 10 mins drive away.
I live alone so I prefer an apartment over a house for my personal safety - and I like the anonymity its gives me in a city where I stick out like a sore thumb (I wouldn't like to be the subject of gossip in a neighbourhood about who visits me for instance).
But the QR scanning thing might make me change my mind

Oh, and I could just get a car to avoid all the silly mall scanning business. I have been here for 6 years, had drivers for the first couple of years but have been using taxis the last few years. It might be time to take the driving plunge.

 

[R Cameron]

The whole thing is actually starting to annoy me. I enter my apartment residence from inside a mall. So I need to scan into the mall. Yesterday when I got home from work they also have a scanner set up at the entrance to my residence (so I need to scan out of the mall to enter my residence).
This morning I had to scan into the mall and out again at the main entrance.
I also noticed today that the time from scan till you get the confirmation is a bit long - less than a minute but long enough to back people up.
I do think some of the confusion is people not understanding how it works but also the lagging.

That sounds awful, they don't have an alternative entrance/exit that doesn't go through the mall? How do you come and go outside mall hours? What if you scan to pass through the mall and it shows the mall is full and you need to wait for people to scan out? What a headache.

 

[gemima]

That sounds awful, they don't have an alternative entrance/exit that doesn't go through the mall? How do you come and go outside mall hours? What if you scan to pass through the mall and it shows the mall is full and you need to wait for people to scan out? What a headache.

There is an apartment lobby that you can drive up to - but I don't have a car and I can't be bothered getting taxis to bring me up there, it's hard for some of them to navigate the ramp (it's slow and faster for me to jump out at the mall entrance and use my legs - even with the QR code stuff).
I can also walk up to the apartment lobby but there is no footpath - only a ramp for vehicles so I only walk up there if I have (like if I get home late and the mall is shut and i've walked home)

 

[Bad_azz]

I actually quite like it - it's a very quiet mall which helps (I couldn't live over a busy one).
I have everything I need (gym/ supermarket/ coffee) close and my office is 10 mins drive away.
I live alone so I prefer an apartment over a house for my personal safety - and I like the anonymity its gives me in a city where I stick out like a sore thumb (I wouldn't like to be the subject of gossip in a neighbourhood about who visits me for instance).
But the QR scanning thing might make me change my mind

I guess the scanning thing will die out in due course... if it doesn't there are far worse things to worry about than a virus or access to your apartment.
Hold off on the car , if you managed well enough without one it seems excessive to get one for now.
I managed 7 years or so without but then my schedule just got too mental to do without a vehicle so I caved in - sorry environment...
" I wouldn't like to be the subject of gossip in a neighbourhood about who visits me for instance)." oooh do tell

 

[Bad_azz]

Shots fired!

I am not a fan of malls nor of apartments, I don't think I made a secret of it- high-rise especially in Jakarta are not the best places to be in a quake or a pandemic.
I get that others love it , to be in a box stacked up high above a shopping centre but I am more a feet on the ground & grass & trees kinda gal

 

[Dharma Police]

I am not a fan of malls nor of apartments, I don't think I made a secret of it- high-rise especially in Jakarta are not the best places to be in a quake or a pandemic.
I get that others love it , to be in a box stacked up high above a shopping centre but I am more a feet on the ground & grass & trees kinda gal

I live on the 21st floor. If a quake is so big I know I won't survive, I'll jump out my balcony and pretend I'm swimming in the air. I like to make people laugh.

 

[Bad_azz]

I live on the 21st floor. If a quake is so big I know I won't survive, I'll jump out my balcony and pretend I'm swimming in the air. I like to make people laugh.

It isn't the surviving it, it is the 20 floors of steps cos the elevator is banned. That is the main issue
Plus squeezing in lifts with people coughing & spluttering (even prior to pandemic) is icky

 

[IndoTom]

Will this system work for overseas tourists that get vaccinated in their home country? I know how anxious Indonesia is about opening the country to foreign tourists.

 

[lifelongexpat]

Looks like there is a system in place.

Vaccine Certificate Required for Foreign Nationals in Jakarta Malls

Jakarta malls require foreign nationals to show vaccine certificates and identification as an entry pass.

en.tempo.co

 

[snpark]

Will this system work for overseas tourists that get vaccinated in their home country? I know how anxious Indonesia is about opening the country to foreign tourists.

No it doesn't, hence all the chaos as some vaccines are not recognised, so you have a lot of WNI and some WNA furious they can't get into the mall despite being fully vaccinated.

I'm thinking they will somehow forget to renew this requirement when they renew PSBB phase 438 / PKBB phase 9 for another week on 16th

The other stupid thing of course is that those vaccinations are adequate to allow you INTO THE COUNTRY but not good enough to get into Grand Indonesia to buy some bananas from the supermarket ?!?!?! Indonesia, pure Indonesia as the advert tagline goes.

 

[Wisnu]

Very interesting for us, WNI not living in Indonesia. If the situation allows and we feel comfortable we will return to Indonesia for one month.
We've had 2x Pfizer vaccinations in the US. The CDC vaccination card is just a small piece of paper, handwritten no stamped. No digital except scanned copy. Not very convincing.

 

[Vicissidude]

Looks like there is a system in place.

Vaccine Certificate Required for Foreign Nationals in Jakarta Malls

Jakarta malls require foreign nationals to show vaccine certificates and identification as an entry pass.

en.tempo.co

I was able to enter Artha Gading and MKG today using a pic of my US vaccine card. And I learned that the app is serving two entirely separate functions:

1. Verify vaccination status. Since I was vaccinated abroad, showing my foreign vaccine card (or pic/scan of it) was enough.
2. Check in/out. Everyone is supposed to do this just to keep track of occupancy. The app still allowed me to check in/out of the mall with no vaccine records in the app.

So crisis averted for those of us who got poked abroad! Just register on the app with your phone number and NIK.

 

[Dharma Police]

It isn't the surviving it, it is the 20 floors of steps cos the elevator is banned. That is the main issue
Plus squeezing in lifts with people coughing & spluttering (even prior to pandemic) is icky

You're worried about stairs and hygiene, and I worry about safety during civil unrest. Even Stevens?

 

[Bad_azz]

You're worried about stairs and hygiene, and I worry about safety during civil unrest. Even Stevens?

What civil unrest?
I must have missed something, hmmm

 

[Dharma Police]

What civil unrest?
I must have missed something, hmmm

You sure did. This country had riots that threatened not only people's livelihoods, but their very lives. Well, not entirely accurate. I guess women and children can survive gang rapes.