Basfana Ridan - Visas work permit consultant

[Vanhelsing]

For those interested, the quote for a retirement visa I received from Maulana was 40% higher than what I know I can obtain a retirement visa for in Bali.

I appreciate Maulana taking the time to come back with the quote, but personally, I believe by not disclosing prices publicly many people will interpret that reticence as a little "dodgy" or "sketchy". I find it interesting that many Indonesian businesses still haven't understood the western bule's appreciation for openness and transparency in business dealings, with those Indonesian businesses who are less forthcoming and somewhat secretive no doubt paying a price.

Edited because my math is appalling.

 

[Davita]

My recollection of the cost of my previous 3 years Retirement Kitas + Merp was in the region of IDR 7 M each. I'm Canadian.

 

[R Cameron]

I find it interesting that many Indonesian businesses still haven't understood the western bule's appreciation for openness and transparency in business dealings, with those Indonesian businesses who are less forthcoming and somewhat secretive no doubt paying a price.

My thoughts exactly

 

[William King]

In essence, it does not mean we don't want to help or publish our prices. But, we need your understanding as customer that we will clarify some of the aspects mentioned above as an example. Therefore, 2 different citizenship with two different position and ages will be having different prices.

So it is very clear we have to treat the requirement of inquiry "case by case".

But you can still offer an approximate range.

5-10 Million ?

25-50 Million ?

 

[SekolahVictoryPlus]

Is it unreasonable to suggest businesses advertising their goods and services through this section who fail to answer or avoid direct questions from members should lose their right to promote themselves for free?

As a school, when we advertise positions, we have to offer a range of salaries in this forum. (though that is not common in the rest of Indonesia) - why should a company advertising services have a different rule to an employer?

 

[Anglian]

An English friend of mine has been quoted 60 million for a Kitap, I've told him the true cost and with a bit of inconvienence driving around to do it himself, he is retired his wife is quite smart, so just do it I said, I'm sure some of us foreigners do get ripped off but it pays to look around and check our site if in doubt

 

[Puspawarna]

As a school, when we advertise positions, we have to offer a range of salaries in this forum. (though that is not common in the rest of Indonesia) - why should a company advertising services have a different rule to an employer?

Again, that's a perfectly good question. Now, will y'all please ask in the correct subforum?

 

[waarmstrong]

For those interested, the quote for a retirement visa I received from Maulana was 40% higher than what I know I can obtain a retirement visa for in Bali...

Res ipsa loquitur.

 

[Ruserious]

Out of interest can i ask why "2 different citizenship with two different position and ages will be having different prices" for the same service? Is this an official position from immigration?

If it based on the time it takes to get approval (say USA is easier then Nigerian for example) then does that mean that it is based on estimated man hours worked? Also when you do quote is the price firm and fixed or does it change if the process takes longer?

 

[rugby]

If any Mining or Energy folks with a KITAP are lurking this new expat forum then the best resource I've clarified for how some groups are approaching your employment is the user centurion. He's in the front lines with current regulations and not some goofy group looking to get into kahoots like before with sharing proceeds with some gal in your HR/Formalities team ( and making you leave on with a wife sponsored KITAS to renew your IMTA). If this sounds familiar then give him a call for coffee only. Of course its not free but I hope he'll be transparent. Let me know if he tries to f&*k you.

 

[rabbit_39]

I have found that in Indonesia one needs to be more pro active lest one is ripped off. Even if you end up hiring an agent to do things due to time constraints, we need to know the regulations, real costs, processes, etc. Just because someone is an agent doesn't mean they really know what they're doing (some do of course).

 

[Puspawarna]

Hey, if anyone thinks they are losing their mind because they saw a post of mine responding to rabbit39, and now it's gone - you are not losing your mind, I'm losing mine. I was in the wrong thread (I thought I was reading rabbit's comment in the forum information subforum.) Anyway, I deleted it, because it made zero sense in the actual context.

 

[atlantis]

For those interested, the quote for a retirement visa I received from Maulana was 40% higher than what I know I can obtain a retirement visa for in Bali.

I appreciate Maulana taking the time to come back with the quote, but personally, I believe by not disclosing prices publicly many people will interpret that reticence as a little "dodgy" or "sketchy". I find it interesting that many Indonesian businesses still haven't understood the western bule's appreciation for openness and transparency in business dealings, with those Indonesian businesses who are less forthcoming and somewhat secretive no doubt paying a price.

Edited because my math is appalling.

No offense intended Vanhelsing but I find your post pretty rich. For someone who is advocating transparency in pricing, your post is about as clear and transparent as mud.

Would you mind telling the board what was Maulana's quotation, what it was including and what is the price (and from who) you would get in your opinion for the same service in Bali.
Thanks.

 

[Vanhelsing]

No offense intended Vanhelsing but I find your post pretty rich. For someone who is advocating transparency in pricing, your post is about as clear and transparent as mud.

Would you mind telling the board what was Maulana's quotation, what it was including and what is the price (and from who) you would get in your opinion for the same service in Bali.
Thanks.

Out of respect for the advertisers request not to make quotes public I didn't give the exact figure.

Apologize not to able offering the pricing in public. For sure, I will PM the price to you shortly

Also requested of Pusp.

Yes you can share my PM to the members, but not for the pricing. Appreciate for your understanding.

Would you like me make my quote public, even though it's against the specific request of the advertiser and seemingly the general consensus of mods?

Pretty rich of you, no offence. And clear as mud for members.

 

[atlantis]

Out of respect for the advertisers request not to make quotes public I didn't give the exact figure.



Also requested of Pusp.



Would you like me make my quote public, even though it's against the specific request of the advertiser and seemingly the general consensus of mods?

Pretty rich of you, no offence. And clear as mud for members.

You take a snipe at him by saying that he is 40% more expensive that what you allegedly have in Bali without supporting it or even giving the board a proper comparison of the two offers. So please go all the way, and support your claim without giving me the BS that you did it "Out of respect for the advertisers request".

 

[atlantis]

Also, VanHelsing, you are dishonest in pretending that you are forbiddden to post his pricing publicly. What he said was as follow:

Let me give you an example why we're unable to publish our price for each individual services requested:
If someone is asking for KITAS price for example, there will be a lot of items that I need to clarify/question prior to offering the price such as: 1. Expat citizenship 2. New or extension 3. Worker or dependent 4. Occupation 5. Age.... etc

In essence, it does not mean we don't want to help or publish our prices. But, we need your understanding as customer that we will clarify some of the aspects mentioned above as an example.

I am not a native speaker but if you read it correctly, it means that he can't give you a pricing in the thread BEFORE that you have given him all explanations concerning your situation. Tell me where he said that you can't make it public afterward.

 

[Vanhelsing]

without giving me the BS that you did it "Out of respect for the advertisers request".

BS? Or trying to kerb my natural response mechanism to these types of people and be more congenial toward them. It's funny you know. The board wants us members to be more harmonious, then when someone like myself who is predisposed to firing off salvos to those he suspects as liars tries to reign himself in, admin tells me to stop the BS. Great!!

I'm out.

 

[atlantis]

I'm out.

It's up to you. I am left with the conclusion that your claim is unsupported and gratuitous.

Addit: even if you are out, I am gonna tell you why your post is rich. You claim that Basfana Ridan quote is 40% more expensive "than what I know I can obtain a retirement visa for in Bali"
You have omitted to mention a slight detail. Basfana is NOT in Bali but in Jakarta and therefore will have to send someone there (Bali) to organize your ITAS lansia with Bali Imigrasi while your agent in Bali is already there. Don't you think it is normal that there is a cost difference and therefore that the quote is different.

Also, even if you haven't mentioned to him that you are Bali based, it isn't surprising to find out that there is a difference in quotation for an ITAS in Bali and in Jakarta because costs are not the same in both cities (salary expectation, time wasted in traffic, office rent...etc).

Whenever I intend to post a comparison in prices, I try to make sure that I compare oranges and oranges, not oranges and apples. I think it's the way to go.

 

[Bule1970]

Hi guys,

Maulana here, sorry if I post in the wrong thread.

I work for Basfana Ridan - formalities company that provide a provision of processing work permits, visas, operating or business licenses, passport, single or multiple entry permits, airport handling, and other necessary permits from the Indonesian government institutions.

We assists companies, corporate employees, tourists, travel agents, government employees to obtain step-by-step instructions, information and application forms for all of their necessary formalities document needs and assists to secure the necessary formalities documents. Our staffs are competence, well trained and professionals for many years.

Our client ranging from big to small including (Exxon, Chevron, HESS, VICO, LOTTE, AIA, and etc) As of to date, BR has been providing the services more than 100 clients with over 2,500 expatriates and 5,000 locals.

Sorry if I post in the wrong thread, but if you guys have anything in mind regarding visas or work permit, you can ask anything in here.

Thankyou
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w; www.basridan.com
e; [email protected]

HI
Are you Busro Maulana??