YOU shall not pass.

Yes, I was serious.

It is outdoor swimming pool - outside the building. You can close the door, curtains ect. to the swimming pool and back garden if you think this could disturb funeral. However if you perform baptism ceremony or birthday, wedding .... you can open it. What I wanted to say is you can use the community building facilities not some shabby tent on the road.

What is so disturbing about handball court?

But these are very personal occasions needed to be held in very personal places. Indonesian people hold enormous value to their heritage, history and home.
 
But these are very personal occasions needed to be held in very personal places. Indonesian people hold enormous value to their heritage, history and home.

If your personal place doesn't provide enough space to accommodate people (and they don't since chairs are on the road) you should think perhaps of another venue.
 
If your personal place doesn't provide enough space to accommodate people (and they don't since chairs are on the road) you should think perhaps of another venue.

Our experiences are seemingly different, and that may be a reflection on the communities we live in (mine albeit temporary). But from my limited understanding of Indonesians and their traditions, it would be somewhat of an insult to their guests to hold some occasions outside of their home, especially family oriented occasions.
 
What is so disturbing about handball court?
I really don't want to offense you, smallworld, but it is just not realistic. The dead corpse has to be exposed for the people to come an pray. Close relatives of the defunct cry, some shout, other faint in the most emotional moments. It requires intimacy.
Also what if it rains? What if there is a storm? How the people are gonna cook on your handball court, dress the buffet...etc? What about electricity, water, toilets?
 
I really don't want to offense you, smallworld, but it is just not realistic. The dead corpse has to be exposed for the people to come an pray. Close relatives of the defunct cry, some shout, other faint in the most emotional moments. It requires intimacy.
Also what if it rains? What if there is a storm? How the people are gonna cook on your handball court, dress the buffet...etc? What about electricity, water, toilets?

You have to understand this is purely a discussion, right?

Ok let's get to you dead corpse rainy-stormy day, guest fainting gordian-knot problem. My thinking is simple, put a decent size military tent on that hand ball court, this will give you plenty of oxygen and a good volume of space compared to cramped house full of people. Cooking can be delivered from the house since it is all in one and the same complex. The same goes for the use of toilet. Brining water dispenser with resolve water issue.
 
You have to understand this is purely a discussion, right?

Ok let's get to you dead corpse rainy-stormy day, guest fainting gordian-knot problem. My thinking is simple, put a decent size military tent on that hand ball court, this will give you plenty of oxygen and a good volume of space compared to cramped house full of people. Cooking can be delivered from the house since it is all in one and the same complex. The same goes for the use of toilet. Brining water dispenser with resolve water issue.
May I ask you a favor? Next time you have a funeral in your residence, expose your idea to the person in charge and report here his/her reaction. :)
 
You have to understand this is purely a discussion, right?

Ok let's get to you dead corpse rainy-stormy day, guest fainting gordian-knot problem. My thinking is simple, put a decent size military tent on that hand ball court, this will give you plenty of oxygen and a good volume of space compared to cramped house full of people. Cooking can be delivered from the house since it is all in one and the same complex. The same goes for the use of toilet. Brining water dispenser with resolve water issue.

There is something to say for this though. We have a similar situation; very often people organize parties whatever in front of their house. With the obligatory tent etc.

So walking the dogs and getting out by car becomes a crime. But hey, they did arrange it with RT and SatPam so their @ss is covered.

And we have a huge basketball field in the kompleks that is practically unused. But of course they want access to their kitchen, toilet etc.
 
And invite me, I will bring my swimming costume so I can have a dip after I pay my respects
 
May I ask you a favor? Next time you have a funeral in your residence, expose your idea to the person in charge and report here his/her reaction. :)

I would love to explain my idea but only to someone who will listen and is willing to try it out. If they are not willing to listen/try why should I waste my time on changing the world for the better. Sadly it is very rare they listen to anybody else except themselves.
 
they want access to their kitchen, toilet etc.
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Court is not used, local kids have other hobbies.
Is the tent and chairs on the road free of charge?
Where I live they often are, at least partially. The church organization own some and many families also do. They lent it for free and in return get the same help when one of theirs deceased. Solidarity of the hood, for the poorest, is essential. Everybody works, donates, helps, supports, hugs, consoles, shares the pain. Yet, as I said before, the overall cost of the funeral, which often comes after some medical cost which have already shaken the family (where I live the BPJS is still very far from being universal), is often disproportionate compared to the resource of the family.
 
Where I live they often are, at least partially. The church organization own some and many families also do. They lent it for free and in return get the same help when one of theirs deceased. Solidarity of the hood, for the poorest, is essential. Everybody works, donates, helps, supports, hugs, consoles, shares the pain. Yet, as I said before, the overall cost of the funeral, which often comes after some medical cost which have already shaken the family (where I live the BPJS is still very far from being universal), is often disproportionate compared to the resource of the family.

Let's just have one big glass of vodka to cool our thinking.

Our local masjid has got several big tents used during idul fitri. Not maybe a military "grade" but still huge and by that I mean bigger than avg. house. I think majsid would not say "no" to borrow it to the family "in pain" after all they - masjid - have to help heir local community. That would resolve your Q1.

Q2 financial stress:

Ok, so you bring in here "cost of the funeral". Fair enough let's see:

What costs do I have for a venue which is included in my monthly bill but unused? (electricity + water + sampah, maintenance incl.)
What is the cost of bringing some household stuff/staff into the new venue?

What other costs are different between house and new venue, which often is very close in the same complex, do you predict or know about? What would be the difference and would it be more or less beneficial at the end? Transportation and coffin you still have the same cost for both scenarios.
 

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