Punishment for women who don't want to wear jilbab

[sumyunggai]

Taken from Facebook, attributed to 'H.R. Imam Bukhari dan Muslim' (my translation from Indonesian)

"1. Punishment for women who expose the hair on their head to those other than their husband:
Her hair will be hung in the fires of hell until it boils her brain and this will last as long as she lived in the world without covering her hair.

2. Punishment for women who dress sexily and show off their chest:

To be hung by a chain of hellfire where her chest and center are tied to hellfire so that her calves and thighs are BBQed like a human BBQing a goat and this hellfire will be extremely painful for the woman.

3. Punishment for women who tease and try to excite other men with their beautiful bodies:

The woman's face will blacken and will eat the contents of her own stomach"

It's accompanied by an image of three devils poking three un-jilbabbed women in the fires of hill, and an exhortation to say 'amin' to avoid such punishments in the afterlife.

It does not seem to be based on any authentic Muslim teaching, but nonetheless attracts many likes, amins, and no criticism.

Such is the brainwashing in force in Indonesia and to be further and further and further promulgated when we get a fascist President in 2019. Then perhaps we will feel the hellfires burn, not merely after death, but also before it..

 

[tokektokek]

Sounds like this guy is a wannabe satan or something, needs to be locked up and given help ASAP.

 

[Anglian]

Oddly last night my wife was telling me that 4 times now my wife and daughter have been asked if they are Muslims will working in their shop at Bintaro, when they answer yes, the response is, Oh you don't wear a jilbab, in Bintaro most women wear the jilbab, so my family are wondering if they will be forced to wear one,
The only maid we ever fired for stealing wore a jilbab, my wife's opinion is wearing a jilbab doesn't prove a true Muslim it's in the heart where the proof is, both regularly attend the local mosque,

 

[fastpitch17]

Punishment for guys that post these things on Social Media. Placed in a circle of 10 men with hammers. Always the Women that are the bad ones it seems. Always their fault for the guys who lack respect and never been taught self control. This is what they are teaching the children of Indonesia while the old men sit back hoping they can get a little view of skin so they can molest and rape with an excuse to do so.

 

[sumyunggai]

Oddly last night my wife was telling me that 4 times now my wife and daughter have been asked if they are Muslims will working in their shop at Bintaro, when they answer yes, the response is, Oh you don't wear a jilbab, in Bintaro most women wear the jilbab, so my family are wondering if they will be forced to wear one,
The only maid we ever fired for stealing wore a jilbab, my wife's opinion is wearing a jilbab doesn't prove a true Muslim it's in the heart where the proof is, both regularly attend the local mosque,

The local warung has a young assistant with a jilbab, she was recently caught in public having sex with a married man. Westerners often assume that the jilbab means the wearer is a strict Muslim. The truth is rather different.

 

[fastpitch17]

I think most Westerners know fully well the hijab plays little into the social behavior of the wearer. I think it's more the picture of what Indonesians want you to think. It is Indonesians who think that their daughters are protected from harm wearing the hijab but in reality, it does nothing but make them sweat more and their hair fall out prematuraly. The hijab in Indonesia and other parts of SE Asia is an Islamic joke and a form of supression for Women.

 

[William King]

The hijab in Indonesia and other parts of SE Asia is an Islamic joke and a form of supression for Women.

What about women who choose to wear it ?

 

[fastpitch17]

What about women who choose to wear it ?

I believe they chose to wear it because of their teachings. Teachings that came from climates much dryer than SE Asia. It's a ME fashion accessory and not healthy for here. SE Asia should have at least invented their own covering. I think the Quran states covering, not hijab. Where was the hijab 20 years ago in Indonesia? Are the people, Women more religious today than before. I think not so there must have been other influances that led to the wearing of the hijab and from the things I have read, it was from the male religious leaders and their influance on society. Yep, we can blame men that sit in some circle somewhere and think of ways to control others. The main target seems to be the Women and how they can become more submissive to the males who don't wear the ME styles unless part of a radical group. I do belive the Quran to say that all will be submissive to god. Unfortunately, Women are second class in many cases there but again, written by men. Why not the men come under the same ME influanced styles?

 

[William King]

I believe they chose to wear it ....

Indeed.

Why not the men come under the same ME influanced styles?

They do. Short trousers, and facial hair and simple examples.

 

[sumyunggai]

Why not the men come under the same ME influanced styles?

They do, at least in my area there are lots of men walking around in white robes that would be more appropriate in the desert.

 

[Anglian]

My 12 year olds daughters observation of Saudi men, they wear dresses, knickers and put a tea towel on there head, and she said do you know what they squat down a pee like women, plus they walk around like big girls holding hands and kissing each other,

One of my Saudi friends had just returned from Paris after seeing his father who was at that time Saudi ambassador, for three days he came to work in jeans and T shirt, then reverted back to the Thobe, I asked him why, he said he had been ordered by the management to wear Saudi dress or be fired

 

[fastpitch17]

Indeed.

A few words taken from a longer paragraph is really not a quote. OK, their choice could easily come from peer pressure or because they were told that was the proper way. If they made a decision to wear it and not by order of a parent or husband, than they were still influenced by something.

They do. Short trousers, and facial hair and simple examples.

The facial hair is called for in a Hadith. The same one that calls for circumcision and the removal of pubic and underarm hairs. I haven't seen a lot of shorts worn by those in the ME.

 

[William King]

A few words taken from a longer paragraph is really not a quote.

Yeah, it is.

One word can be a quote.

The key point being they chose to wear it. End of story. Whatever influences may or may not exist in your fevered imagination most likely do not exist.

Choice.

 

[Pak Tani]

The key point being they chose to wear it. End of story. Whatever influences may or may not exist in your fevered imagination most likely do not exist.

Choice.

I think that in my area most women who wear a hijab do so because they believe that their creator tells them to do so. They just try to abide by the rules of their religion.

 

[fastpitch17]

Well, I'll tell you what. I will defend any Woman's right to wear whatever she pleases to the very end as long as it's her choice. It doesn't mean I agree with it nor will I ever understand why an Asian population would choose a garment that goes against the climate of that population when it could have been adapted into something more culturally and environmentally acceptable. To me the hijab takes away from the culture that was centuries old. For what? Why the hijab and not a scarf or other covering of some type? What made the hijab the choice of the Islamic leaders who started getting the females to wearing it? Who changed Indonesia in the past 30 years.

 

[Vanhelsing]

I remember going on a date in Solo with a dentist who wore a hijab, she telling me her friends and herself wore a mask in Indonesian society and the hijab was part of that mask.

 

[fastpitch17]

I think that in my area most women who wear a hijab do so because they believe that their creator tells them to do so. They just try to abide by the rules of their religion.

You mean these rules were just put in less than 30 years ago in Indonesia? I think perhaps someone decided that they should less than 30 years ago and told them it was their creators rules. They just never applied before that. Took them over 1,400 years to figure it out I guess.

 

[fastpitch17]

I remember going on a date in Solo with a dentist who wore a hijab, she telling me her friends and herself wore a mask in Indonesian society and the hijab was part of that mask.

So, they were hiding behind the hijab? Some false sense of security?

 

[Vanhelsing]

So, they were hiding behind the hijab? Some false sense of security?

I'd suggest in fear of family and societal repercussions if they didn't wear it.

 

[Pak Tani]

You mean these rules were just put in less than 30 years ago in Indonesia? I think perhaps someone decided that they should less than 30 years ago and told them it was their creators rules. They just never applied before that. Took them over 1,400 years to figure it out I guess.

Everybody knows that islam prescribes women to cover their hair. If few women used to wear a jilbab here in indonesia 30 years ago, maybe they were less religious or ignorant about the laws concerning this.