If it all went to hell in a hand basket.

[Vanhelsing]

If living in Indonesia became impossible due to the genuine threat of physical harm, or the Indonesian government deciding the presence of foreigners corrupted the fabric of society and they were no longer welcome, or some other reason that prohibited further domicile, what would you do?

Would you return to your country of origin? Perhaps relocate to another SEA country? Build a bunker and buy guns?

Have you a plan B?

 

[R Cameron]

I would probably head to Thailand for a few months and see how things develop. If the new issue wasn't blowing over, I guess I would head home. Or maybe I would have gained a new interest in Thailand.

 

[Bad_azz]

Hide in a bunker minus hand guns

 

[jukung11]

Contact my embassy. Look for an extraction.

Is this just limited to political disasters? What about natural disasters? Generally society and the rule of law can break down in those situations too.

Indonesia is a country of natural disasters too. Let me count the ways: earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunami, flooding. Any I missed? Were you in Kathmandu?

 

[jstar]

Indonesia is a country of natural disasters too. Let me count the ways: earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunami, flooding. Any I missed?

Cyclones, tornadoes and tropical storms. Forest fires and smoke (Sumatra). Hell, even sinkholes, major subsidences (Pluit?) and huge landslides with mud (Central Java).

The last people I would rely on, are those from the embassy. (Only in one possible scenario, a revolt.)

 

[Puspawarna]

Most likely, we'd probably just accelerate our plans to retire to Hawaii - our property has a crappy little cabin that is rarely occupied, so we'd just stay there until the lease was up on the main house and we could move in. Financially it wouldn't be ideal, but I don't mind scrimping and being super-thrifty, so we'd manage.

If I were younger it would be a much tougher question. We'd probably try to move to another SE Asian country - but who knows thether that would work out job wise?

 

[jstar]

Only in one possible scenario, a revolt.

The reason for this, that in case of an ethnic cleansing, I would (attempt to) arrange to get the F-I-L an official fugitive status in the EU. This was already possible in '98.

 

[jukung11]

Cyclones, tornadoes and tropical storms. Forest fires and smoke (Sumatra). Hell, even sinkholes, major subsidences (Pluit?) and huge landslides with mud (Central Java).

The last people I would rely on, are those from the embassy. (Only in one possible scenario, a revolt.)

That was one of the scenarios that came to my mind. If there was an armed conflict, I would want to find some Marines. The U.S. isn't perfect, but they have a pretty good track record of violating other countries sovereignty to protect their citizens. The one time I would appreciate them trying to be the police of the world and spending more money on their military than the rest of the world combined.

For other disasters, I would follow the general FEMA disaster preparedness. First aid kit, a few days of water, power, money, and food. Always keep a good all weather set of clothes and the most important thing, a good pair of shoes close by (not flip flops). Because of the infrastructure problems of Indonesia, many people keep this stuff anyway.

 

[dafluff]

If living in Indonesia became impossible due to the genuine threat of physical harm, or the Indonesian government deciding the presence of foreigners corrupted the fabric of society and they were no longer welcome, or some other reason that prohibited further domicile, what would you do?

Would you return to your country of origin? Perhaps relocate to another SEA country? Build a bunker and buy guns?

Have you a plan B?

This is one of the reasons I could never consider Indonesian citizenship as long as they require to give up all other citizenships.

So yes, there is a plan B.

Luckily I live in Bali, and in my estimation the above scenario is much less likely to happen.

 

[steveandpenny]

I would hide in the handbasket and try to enjoy the ride. Luckly we live in manado far far away from the crap.

 

[Nasigan]

If living in Indonesia becomes really impossible we try to sell our properties and try to move to North Australia or try Thailand, the negative point is that our dogs have to stay with my father in law, the very last option is back to my home country.
If It is still possible to stay in Indonesia but Java becomes to much extreme Islam like Pakistan, Afghanistan we might move to Manado area and bring our dogs with us.

 

[Smallworld]

... what would you do?

Would you return to your country of origin? Perhaps relocate to another SEA country? Build a bunker and buy guns?

Have you a plan B?

That's easy... I would leave Indonesia. Where..... maybe back to UK maybe some other new country. I have no plan B.... no need for it.
Bunker... guns .... thanks that is not for me.
House, money..... those are minor things. It would also depend how easy it is to get out from Indonesia?

 

[waarmstrong]

Not going to happen. Next question, or should I say next post, as quantity rather than quality seems to be the point of this thread and others in the OP's prolific quest for 200.

 

[Puspawarna]

Hey, I thought it was a reasonably interesting question.

Certainly those of us who were here back in the days when the US Embassy used to recommend to us that we keep open tickets out of the country in a safe place at home, and stock up with enough food and water to last for 2 weeks without leaving the house, can at least wrap our heads around the idea of preparing for bad stuff.

Of course it won't happen. But that's what I said about "President Trump" too, so you never know. There is no harm in being prepared, as long as you don't let fear govern your life. Heck, even the First Aid/CPR course I took recommended that we keep a go-bag by the door. Not that I've ever made go-bags; it is one of those things on my "things to do" list that never gets done. But I do keep flashlights in every room in case of power outages.

 

[Anglian]

The British Embassy when I first came here had a warden system designated your area, if a problem they would contact you are give advice, the Embassy seems to have got more aloof of late, gone are the days you could go to the old embassy and have a beer and some yummy ham and eggs. That's progress

 

[jstar]

Any difference with British embassies in former colonies? Would they 'do more' in countries like Malaysia and India for instance, where there probably are many more citizens?

 

[Anglian]

Any difference with British embassies in former colonies? Would they 'do more' in countries like Malaysia and India for instance, where there probably are many more citizens?

I think it depends on the Embassador, I recall the Embassador here when I first came was quite active in various ventures, I think the warden schemes was his idea, but when he left it fell out of use, so I suppose its up to the Embassador to implement any scheme he thinks fit, also I suppose one should look at your Embassy web site for any warnings and updates, it was all done by telephone before the advent of the internet

 

[serious_fun]

Any difference with British embassies in former colonies? Would they 'do more' in countries like Malaysia and India for instance, where there probably are many more citizens?

Here in HK, the British would call Beijing to make sure that no business interests were at risk before acting.

 

[Daniel50]

I would just move back to my home country.

 

[jstar]

Nooooooo