Indonesians Human trafficking in Myanmar ? Is it true ??

I visited Cambodia in the mid 90's. It was the Wild West...Not that I disliked it, but you had to be streetsmart and on your guard.
Still had that basic feel even 15 years ago. There was a very thin facade over it but make no mistake it was still the old west in a lot of ways.
 
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'Iwan' was found dead with numerous marks on his body, indicating he had been tortured. There is also growing evidence that human organ trafficking is taking place in Cambodia and Myanmar.
In fact, there are two individuals involved: Rizal Sampurna and Iwan Sahab, according to recent news reports. These are just a few that have been identified so far. Iwan was officially declared dead from a brain blood clot, believed to have resulted from a head injury. Additionally, according to his sister who received iwan's body and prepared it for the funeral, she noticed an incision on one side of his abdomen, raising suspicions that his kidney may have been removed.

Based on this report the Indonesian workers found dead in Cambodia in 2024 alone are 92 people. But what about the other Indonesians who may still be trapped in Cambodia or Myanmar? This is likely only the tip of the iceberg.

These criminal gangs are likely operating out of permanent or semi-permanent buildings, given their dependence on high-speed internet. This makes it easier to trace their locations. However, the core issue might be the will of doing this. They prefer to spend Rp280T for free meal for children rather than saving people like this. It may also lie in the lack of professionalism and effectiveness within Indonesian intelligence services. They could learn from Mossad, which, despite having fewer members, operates with remarkable efficiency.

 
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I feel sorry for the People of Myanmar! Not only are they having to live under a Military Junta rule, but a Chinese Mafia as well!
Your suggestion of having Trump come in is a terrible idea! He is incapable of having Compassion, or caring, about anyone or anything, except Himself! 😢
Reports indicate that the Hun Sen family is becoming deeply involved in human trafficking, particularly in the highly lucrative and sinister illegal organ trade. Allegations include cases where individuals have had their kidneys removed, often in facilities such as hospital run by the state or military.
 
I feel sorry for the People of Myanmar! Not only are they having to live under a Military Junta rule, but a Chinese Mafia as well!
Your suggestion of having Trump come in is a terrible idea! He is incapable of having Compassion, or caring, about anyone or anything, except Himself! 😢
Not so many there live under a Chinese mafia; the issue is that the Chinese mafia is allowed to operate. It gets a little complicated since a lot of Myanmar's not under Tatmadow control.
If you want to dive into a rabbit hole, look at the remnants of the Kuomintang in Shan State and how the boys from Langley were involved.
 
I visited Cambodia in the mid 90's. It was the Wild West...Not that I disliked it, but you had to be streetsmart and on your guard.
Nowadays they have put some lipstick on it for the tourists, but it is still a lawless and dangerous place.
I worked in Myanmar (Yangon) at the same period. Lovely people, but an horrible military junta. It looks like it is going more and more downhill...
But keep in mind that in both countries the Chinese mafia is involved in this stuff.
The Chinese government has recently done some high profile operation, arresting and rapatriating a bunch of Chinese gangster.
Thailand has cut electric supply and internet lines to some Myanmar regions as well.





But a LOT is still to be done.

Maybe somebody could suggest to Trump to invade both places ? The weather is much better than in Greenland !
Had the Intercontinental PP opened then? I rode there from the airport with our FSR (from Bordeaux btw) in the late 90's. The roads were all really rough cobblestones until we turned onto the street running in front of the IC. It was freshly paved and smooth as glass. I guess sometimes it's good to run a country, you can get your streets paved.
You're right, it was Wild West, maybe wilder. And a lot of really nice people.
 
Had the Intercontinental PP opened then? I rode there from the airport with our FSR (from Bordeaux btw) in the late 90's. The roads were all really rough cobblestones until we turned onto the street running in front of the IC. It was freshly paved and smooth as glass. I guess sometimes it's good to run a country, you can get your streets paved.
You're right, it was Wild West, maybe wilder. And a lot of really nice people.
Can't remember about the Intercontinental.
We were building the foundations for the future Sofitel Yangon.
A few years later I worked in Karen country on the (in)famous Yadana pipe line, bringing gas from offshore Myanmar to Thailand.
Pipe line construction going over the hills separating the two countries.
The Karen insurgency had already started but the people were all very nice.
And living in a base camp surrounded by two fences of barbed wire was not a problem. Whisky at the clubhouse was 50 ct !


There was a lot of contraversy about this project, see the Wiki article), personally I didn't witness anything horrible.
But the "organized" visits for international human right groups or press were comedy gold....
I was even contacted by a French TV channel to participe in some debate, which I gently declined.
 
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In fact, there are two individuals involved: Rizal Sampurna and Iwan Sahab, according to recent news reports. These are just a few that have been identified so far. Iwan was officially declared dead from a brain blood clot, believed to have resulted from a head injury. Additionally, according to his sister who received iwan's body and prepared it for the funeral, she noticed an incision on one side of his abdomen, raising suspicions that his kidney may have been removed.

Based on this report the Indonesian workers found dead in Cambodia in 2024 alone are 92 people. But what about the other Indonesians who may still be trapped in Cambodia or Myanmar? This is likely only the tip of the iceberg.

These criminal gangs are likely operating out of permanent or semi-permanent buildings, given their dependence on high-speed internet. This makes it easier to trace their locations. However, the core issue might be the will of doing this. They prefer to spend Rp280T for free meal for children rather than saving people like this. It may also lie in the lack of professionalism and effectiveness within Indonesian intelligence services. They could learn from Mossad, which, despite having fewer members, operates with remarkable efficiency.

In fact, there are two individuals involved: Rizal Sampurna and Iwan Sahab, according to recent news reports. These are just a few that have been identified so far. Iwan was officially declared dead from a brain blood clot, believed to have resulted from a head injury. Additionally, according to his sister who received iwan's body and prepared it for the funeral, she noticed an incision on one side of his abdomen, raising suspicions that his kidney may have been removed.

Based on this report the Indonesian workers found dead in Cambodia in 2024 alone are 92 people. But what about the other Indonesians who may still be trapped in Cambodia or Myanmar? This is likely only the tip of the iceberg.

These criminal gangs are likely operating out of permanent or semi-permanent buildings, given their dependence on high-speed internet. This makes it easier to trace their locations. However, the core issue might be the will of doing this. They prefer to spend Rp280T for free meal for children rather than saving people like this. It may also lie in the lack of professionalism and effectiveness within Indonesian intelligence services. They could learn from Mossad, which, despite having fewer members, operates with remarkable efficiency.

You are talking about two totally separate situations. One is food for hungry children, and the other, Adults that went abroad seeking work in foreign countries. Children don't have a choice about Hunger! Adults that leave Do! Maybe you should be asking the core question. Why are these people leaving Indonesia, and seeking work elsewhere? Did they know what they were getting into, and taking the chance, for a better income?
Also suggesting the Mossad is an organization to be looked up too? They are a ruthless Special Ops Unit, from The Israel Military, who at the moment are committing Genocide on thousands of innocent Men, Women, and Children, in Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria! And using the words together Military Intelligence is a Oxymoron! 🫵🙀😢😩
 
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Can't remember about the Intercontinental.
We were building the foundations for the future Sofitel Yangon.
A few years later I worked in Karen country on the (in)famous Yadana pipe line, bringing gas from offshore Myanmar to Thailand.
Pipe line construction going over the hills separating the two countries.
The Karen insurgency had already started but the people were all very nice.
And living in a base camp surrounded by two fences of barbed wire was not a problem. Whisky at the clubhouse was 50 ct !


There was a lot of contraversy about this project, see the Wiki article), personally I didn't witness anything horrible.
But the "organized" visits for international human right groups or press were comedy gold....
I was even contacted by a French TV channel to participe in some debate, which I gently declined.
If I were a member of the Karen Tribe, like the Native American Tribes, over the Keystone pipeline. I would be really angry with this pipeline installation also! I'm sure as most projects like this around the World, the Poor People living in the way, are treating Terribly, and their land just taken from them, with a pittance of Monetary return! It's always the same story. The People standing up against the Project, Military, or Government are called Terrorist, Criminals, Gangs, Murderers, Etc. And the Project coordinators, Military, or Government are the Good Guys just looking out for the good of Everyone? (Israeli, American, French) ?
But Greed is a powerful force, with unlimited money backing it. And the little guy just gets Rolled Over and Crushed! All for Greed and Profit!
Stop Using Fossil Fuels Now!! 🫵😩😢
 
If I were a member of the Karen Tribe, like the Native American Tribes, over the Keystone pipeline. I would be really angry with this pipeline installation also! I'm sure as most projects like this around the World, the Poor People living in the way, are treating Terribly, and their land just taken from them, with a pittance of Monetary return! It's always the same story. The People standing up against the Project, Military, or Government are called Terrorist, Criminals, Gangs, Murderers, Etc. And the Project coordinators, Military, or Government are the Good Guys just looking out for the good of Everyone? (Israeli, American, French) ?
But Greed is a powerful force, with unlimited money backing it. And the little guy just gets Rolled Over and Crushed! All for Greed and Profit!
Stop Using Fossil Fuels Now!! 🫵😩😢
Get off whatever pills you take.....
 
You are talking about two totally separate situations. One is food for hungry children, and the other, Adults that went abroad seeking work in foreign countries. Children don't have a choice about Hunger! Adults that leave Do! Maybe you should be asking the core question. Why are these people leaving Indonesia, and seeking work elsewhere? Did they know what they were getting into, and taking the chance, for a better income?
Also suggesting the Mossad is an organization to be looked up too? They are a ruthless Special Ops Unit, from The Israel Military, who at the moment are committing Genocide on thousands of innocent Men, Women, and Children, in Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria! And using the words together Military Intelligence is a Oxymoron! 🫵🙀😢😩

Providing free meals to school children isn’t simply about addressing hunger. Indonesia isn’t among the least developed or war-torn countries like some seen in parts of Africa. How often do you actually see school children going hungry in Indonesia? Consider the Rp280T budget could do in Indonesia. How does that compare to allocations for other departments? Educational department already has the Biggest budget allocation. This Rp280T is just for free meal for school children alone. On the top of that there are still other regular core educational budget for all levels, from elementary school to higher education. This free meals for school children alone has already taken 38.7% of the total educational budget. Have you ever seen in other countries where free meals for school children take 38.7% of the total national educational budget ???????. Also the main concern here is that this big budget is not necessary used for free meal for children. Learning from the past experience, it is highly likely will end up in the pocket of adults in all levels, including their own teachers, principals, contractors, distributors, etc you name it. It's important to understand the facts and do some research before making uneducated comment.

Mossad is a national intelligence agency known for its effectiveness in foreign intelligence gathering, despite having relatively few personnel. This highlights a gap in Indonesia’s intelligence performance, as mentioned earlier. There have been numerous instances where Indonesian intelligence only became aware of issues after they went viral on social media or were reported by international media, rather than through proactive intelligence gathering on their own.

Growth and improvement in individuals and organisations come from learning from others and adapting those lessons to local circumstances. It doesn’t mean copying blindly.

It’s not uncommon, those who first call others “oxymorons” who most accurately fit that label themselves.
 
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Mossad is a national intelligence agency known for its effectiveness in foreign intelligence gathering, despite having relatively few personnel.
So they should have easily known about October 7th and prevented it if that is what they really wanted? Giving out pagers and walkie talkies that can explode at any time even if a child is holding it doesn't seem very effective in keeping down collateral damage but that is not really Israel's thing anyway.
 
Providing free meals to school children isn’t simply about addressing hunger. Indonesia isn’t among the least developed or war-torn countries like some seen in parts of Africa. How often do you actually see school children going hungry in Indonesia? Consider the Rp280T budget could do in Indonesia. How does that compare to allocations for other departments? Educational department already has the Biggest budget allocation. This Rp280T is just for free meal for school children alone. On the top of that there are still other regular core educational budget for all levels, from elementary school to higher education. This free meals for school children alone has already taken 38.7% of the total educational budget. Have you ever seen in other countries where free meals for school children take 38.7% of the total national educational budget ???????. Also the main concern here is that this big budget is not necessary used for free meal for children. Learning from the past experience, it is highly likely will end up in the pocket of adults in all levels, including their own teachers, principals, contractors, distributors, etc you name it. It's important to understand the facts and do some research before making uneducated comment.

Mossad is a national intelligence agency known for its effectiveness in foreign intelligence gathering, despite having relatively few personnel. This highlights a gap in Indonesia’s intelligence performance, as mentioned earlier. There have been numerous instances where Indonesian intelligence only became aware of issues after they went viral on social media or were reported by international media, rather than through proactive intelligence gathering on their own.

Growth and improvement in individuals and organisations come from learning from others and adapting those lessons to local circumstances. It doesn’t mean copying blindly.

It’s not uncommon, those who first call others “oxymorons” who most accurately fit that label themselves.
You are probably right about the money being misused and being stolen by corrupt people! From what I've seen of the diet here in Indonesia, even with money, it is very lacking in Nutrition! The Children are the ones getting the shitty end of the stick here! They Do Need Help With Nutrition! And The Mossad is much more than an intelligence seeking agency, they are the ones that decide where the Bombs go, and Who Dies! This so called intelligence gathering is Spying, and in No Way done for anything except Evil!
And Dear Friend, you must learn that an Oxymoron is not a label for People. An Oxymoron is a figure of speech, that combines contradictory terms to create a striking or paradoxical effect! Such as Bittersweet, or Icy Hot! Or Military Intelligence! 🫵🙀🤪🥳👍✌️🤷🏼‍♂️
 
So they should have easily known about October 7th and prevented it if that is what they really wanted? Giving out pagers and walkie talkies that can explode at any time even if a child is holding it doesn't seem very effective in keeping down collateral damage but that is not really Israel's thing anyway.
Netanyahu knew what was coming, the Israel Defence Minister knew it was coming so most likely Mossad knew about it. The US told them and that is a fact. This whole Oct 7th thing is on their backs. Maybe they never expected how big it would be but that is no excuse. Netanyahu and his crew should have been removed Oct 8. Now, he just destroyes Gaza because he has the support of the lunitic king of the US. Keep blowing it all up. Removal us easier when everything is already knocked down. Those trump netty resorts will be nice, don't you think?
 
Providing free meals to school children isn’t simply about addressing hunger. Indonesia isn’t among the least developed or war-torn countries like some seen in parts of Africa. How often do you actually see school children going hungry in Indonesia? Consider the Rp280T budget could do in Indonesia. How does that compare to allocations for other departments? Educational department already has the Biggest budget allocation. This Rp280T is just for free meal for school children alone. On the top of that there are still other regular core educational budget for all levels, from elementary school to higher education. This free meals for school children alone has already taken 38.7% of the total educational budget. Have you ever seen in other countries where free meals for school children take 38.7% of the total national educational budget ???????. Also the main concern here is that this big budget is not necessary used for free meal for children. Learning from the past experience, it is highly likely will end up in the pocket of adults in all levels, including their own teachers, principals, contractors, distributors, etc you name it. It's important to understand the facts and do some research before making uneducated comment.

Mossad is a national intelligence agency known for its effectiveness in foreign intelligence gathering, despite having relatively few personnel. This highlights a gap in Indonesia’s intelligence performance, as mentioned earlier. There have been numerous instances where Indonesian intelligence only became aware of issues after they went viral on social media or were reported by international media, rather than through proactive intelligence gathering on their own.

Growth and improvement in individuals and organisations come from learning from others and adapting those lessons to local circumstances. It doesn’t mean copying blindly.

It’s not uncommon, those who first call others “oxymorons” who most accurately fit that label themselves.
Just because you haven't noticed malnourished kids doesn't mean they don't exist. Poor nutrition's a known and widespread problem, especially in the east.
Mossad's extremely well funded by their Uncle Sam and that's a big factor in their operations. Now if they'd just use those skills for good...
How are you so aware of how effective or ineffective the locals are?
 
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So they should have easily known about October 7th and prevented it if that is what they really wanted? Giving out pagers and walkie talkies that can explode at any time even if a child is holding it doesn't seem very effective in keeping down collateral damage but that is not really Israel's thing anyway.
Intelligence rankings and ratings are based on a long-standing track record. By that logic, would people say the CIA is no longer considered one of the top intelligence agencies in the world just because of the 9/11 incident?

Mossad along with CIA, MI6 are frequently ranked as the top 5 Intelligence Agencies in the World in many authoritative international literature, news coverage.
 
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Wow, this post has sprouted into about six different topics! From Myanmar to Hungry Children, to stealing organs, to People seeking employment in dangerous places, to Israel's insane Leader, to Trump's building resort's in Gaza. How someone from a Muslim Nation praises, A Jewish Spy Agency!
Hey why not come up with a lot of international Dishes to Feed the Hungry Children, and put them on Todays Menu? 🤷🏼‍♂️🙀🤪✌️🙏👍🌶️⁉️
 
Just because you haven't noticed malnourished kids doesn't mean they don't exist. Poor nutrition's a known and widespread problem, especially in the east.
I never claim otherwise. Also the post #30 which is the response to Post #27 is about hunger, not about malnutrition. Malnutrition can affect the middle class as well. Just consider anorexic catwalk models. The key difference is that, for the middle class, this kind of malnutrition is often a choice and can usually be reversed at any time.

How are you so aware of how effective or ineffective the locals are?
Briefly explained in Post #38. This is just one example
There are tons of info about this if you search it.
 
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