Waste Management in Indonesia

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From https://databoks.katadata.co.id/lin.../57-rumah-tangga-indonesia-rutin-bakar-sampah
Title :57% of Indonesian Households Routinely Burn Waste
By Adi Ahdiat , June 2024

Proportion of Indonesian Households Based on Main Waste Management Method (2023)
burned: 57.2%
colected by the government: 27.6%
throw into rivers/drains: 2.8%
composted: 0.3%
recycled: 0.1%

The Ministry of Health classifies waste burning as improper handling, the same as being thrown into rivers/drains, buried, and dumped carelessly.

This is in line with the explanation of the Directorate of Hazardous and Toxic Materials Management (B3) of the Ministry of Environment and Forestry (KLHK)...

The B3 Directorate stated that waste burning needs to be reduced through public education and government policies.
 
From https://kejarmimpi.id/ngeri-tumpuka...bisa-menyaingi-tinggi-candi-borobudur-90.html
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... According to a 2008 study conducted by the Ministry of Environment and Forestry, the pattern of waste management in Indonesia is mostly transported and dumped in landfills or Final Disposal Sites (69%). The rest of the waste is buried (10%), composted and recycled (7%), burned (5%), dumped into rivers (3%), and the rest is unmanaged (7%)...

Indonesia is the second largest contributor of plastic waste in the world...

Microplastics in salt and fish in Indonesia were shown through two separate studies conducted by researchers from Hasanuddin University (Unhas), Makassar and the Oceanography Center of the Indonesian Institute of Sciences (LIPI). Researchers found 10-20 microplastic particles per kilogram of salt which can be harmful to humans if consumed...
 
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Obviously the "dump in the river" and "burn" method is underutilized.
We see that the first article above says 57,2 % burned (2013) and the second article, 5% burned (2008) . Few days ago an article from Jakarta Post says 48% is burned .

At least in my low middle class neighborhood few people burn garbage (maybe 5%) , I guess because the government collects garbage from a place 300 meters from here and Pak RT hires a person to collect from our houses (but this person asked us to pay Rp100'000 per month) .

So I guess the ones who burn or dump in the river are not willing to pay (maybe around Rp50'000/month) to the "tukang sampah"/garbage collector . And there are probably other areas where garbage collecting is less efficient and/or more expensive .

An additional problem in my area is that people don't care/complain about garbage burning . I complained more than once to the neighbor who burns and to Pak RT , but the burning continues.
Once I asked my Kantor Kelurahan/local Government's officer and she said burning is not allowed , and so I told that there is a big house nearby in the main street that burns the garbage , she said she didn't know.
 
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It is obvious that dealing with garbage, is not a priority for the Government. The corporations producing all this plastic, should be required to recycle and somehow dispose of it in an environmentally sound method. The corporations should be forced to provide bins, transportation, for every community, village, city, to take back the used plastics. The leaders of the communities, and schools, should make it a priority to educate the children, and adults to use these bins. Anyone found throwing rubbish on the ground, streams, rivers, and the Ocean, should be penalized!
Plastics should be made using biodegradable oils, or some other organic materials. Like in the past, packaging was made from organic materials, paper, banana leaves, rattan, bamboo, wood, seaweed.
The article before saying how plastics are in our foods, even sea salt should be a Wake up call for everyone! Something has to be done Now!
It is obvious we will continue to make and use plastics, so as I said before, it must be a number 1 priority to create it from non polluting, biodegradable materials!
 
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We finally got a garbage collection service here in my village in South/East Java after years of people dumping in the streets , rivers , bush , ocean etc . Burning rubbish and bbq'ing fish over it in the streets/ in the front of unoccupied houses was/still is a regular nightly past time . The collection service was organized by the local authorities , 15,000rp/$1.50 a month for a service every second day . The rubbish collected , what goes into the trailer and not all over the road , now gets dumped and burnt on the side of the road just out of town , a great welcome to the village driving through a smouldering mountain of putrid rubbish . The authorities , worst polluters of the lot , still dump all the street parade rubbish in the creek just out of town. People not willing or able to pay still dump/burn in the streets , rivers , ocean etc . Big new boat harbor built here recently , already a festering rubbish dump with all the rubbish /fish scraps dumped everywhere by fisherman . The people here don't care about the environment , it's just a dumping ground as far as there concerned . Round up , toxic fertilizers and other poisons banned in other countries are used openly in crop areas and the empty containers /packaging thrown into the irrigation channels to wash into the main river where 100's of people collect shellfish , crabs etc for the restaurants in Bali and other tourist areas . No signs or fines in place , nothing in the education system about pollution and personal hygiene . No size /bag limits on fish , shellfish etc . Rape and pillage with no concern about the future . Can't swim at the local beach without getting some sort of infection from the filth . Could go on for hours . Have contacted all the authorities, "Do Good" environmental organizations etc for help , not one reply .
 
... The corporations should be forced to provide bins, transportation, for every community, village, city, to take back the used plastics. The leaders of the communities, and schools, should make it a priority to educate the children, and adults to use these bins. ..
Corporations will say it is governments' responsibility . About schools in all countries I used to say that they teach a lot of what we don't need to know and don't teach what we need to know .
Plastics should be made using biodegradable oils, or some other organic materials...
From https://europlas.com.vn/en-US/blog-1/how-much-does-biodegradable-plastic-cost
... According to a study by the Vietnam Biodegradable Plastics Association, the current price of biodegradable plastic ... is 2-3 times higher than traditional plastics...
The article before saying how plastics are in our foods, even sea salt should be a Wake up call for everyone! Something has to be done Now!
"Something has to be done now" is applicable to so many subjects , unfortunately .
 
I don't blame the people; I blame the government. If the local authorities don't collect the garbage regularly, what can reasonable people do ? Allow trash to accumulate in their homes? Naturally, they will resort to illegal dumping, leaving it wherever possible, even in rivers, or burning it.

The focus is on building a subway instead of tackling more basic problems like waste management, regular garbage collection, or proper underground drainage systems.

There was also a great documentary series from a while back that highlighted the difficult job of waste collectors in Jakarta.
 
It is obvious that dealing with garbage, is not a priority for the Government. The corporations producing all this plastic, should be required to recycle and somehow dispose of it in an environmentally sound method. The corporations should be forced to provide bins, transportation, for every community, village, city, to take back the used plastics. The leaders of the communities, and schools, should make it a priority to educate the children, and adults to use these bins. Anyone found throwing rubbish on the ground, streams, rivers, and the Ocean, should be penalized!
Plastics should be made using biodegradable oils, or some other organic materials. Like in the past, packaging was made from organic materials, paper, banana leaves, rattan, bamboo, wood, seaweed.
The article before saying how plastics are in our foods, even sea salt should be a Wake up call for everyone! Something has to be done Now!
It is obvious we will continue to make and use plastics, so as I said before, it must be a number 1 priority to create it from non polluting, biodegradable materials!
You're dreaming...

This ain't SGP ! Luckily....
 
Corporations will say it is governments' responsibility . About schools in all countries I used to say that they teach a lot of what we don't need to know and don't teach what we need to know .

From https://europlas.com.vn/en-US/blog-1/how-much-does-biodegradable-plastic-cost
... According to a study by the Vietnam Biodegradable Plastics Association, the current price of biodegradable plastic ... is 2-3 times higher than traditional plastics...

"Something has to be done now" is applicable to so many subjects , unfortunately .
Don't you think it's worth paying more for a sustainable future?
 
Don't you think it's worth paying more for a sustainable future?
Of course it is worth , but a few common persons cannot change countries' policy .

Even with most countries agreeing to decrease pollution , I see almost nothing about it (except few things like solar panels that are relatively cheap) .
 
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Of course it is worth , but a few common persons cannot change countries' policy .

Even with most countries agreeing to decrease pollution , I see almost nothing about it (except few things like solar panels that are relatively cheap) .
That is because doing something good for the people, and the planet, is Bad for Business! Nothing has changed since the beginning of mankind. There are those that become the corrupt leaders, kings, queens, dictators. They take care of their own first. (Despotism). They rule the lands, they create corporations, and don't give a damn except to stay in power, and grab all the wealth! It's time for the People to Rise! and put a stop to this. But through Religions, Militaries, Police, Additives to our foods, and Water, and now Social Media, they have everyone living in Fear of Rebuttal! Like lambs on the way to slaughter.
 
It's very true. After spent more than 20 years as TKI in various country, I live in small village east Bali - beautiful place, very green or golden yellow rice paddy fields, crystal clear water continuously flowing, with the majestic mount Agung look after us. Unfortunately, rubbish - particularly plastic are almost every where. People still do not realize or pretend do not know that plastics is not same as banana leaves or bamboo leaves or taro leaves. Even I can see plastic rubbish on the subak waterways where the water not only used for irrigation. Many people use it for bathing and washing their clothes. There's small garbage dump where people can drop their rubbish, and 2-3 times a week, a truck will collect and dump to the TPA 12 km away. During main festive session, the garbage dump not able to handle the massive quantity of rubbish, though not too bad as most are organic rubbish. Many people still burn their rubbish - mostly organic - in their yard as they believe it's more effective than bringing rubbish everyday to the garbage dump with their small scooter or walking a km or more.
When people live in poverty and have to manage less than Rp. 50k per day to feed their family; they do have their own priority which is different than mine. Sure it not a good excuse as there's some area like Penglipuran village where their village is very clean - it's another interesting story.
So, what I (assuming I'm more intelligent and well educated) should I do? complaining to the sky, whining, screaming to them, telling them than the planet will end tomorrow, while million USD spent to drop thousand tones of bomb and spread million bullet to fertilize the soil with blood and fleshes.
Sure, we can always blame the government and extend our anger to the society.
I'm not trying to pretend to change the world. Infact, I'm very selfish as what I did is solely for me, to make me happy. So, I start with me and people around me.
We interact with people around us. They can see that we never burn our rubbish; instead fermented to compost; use it for our garden.
We pick-up plastic rubbish from our paddy field and our project - and show-of, from the street too.
I just back from Kigali, Rwanda - so, I share the story about this amazing country - how clean the city though they are not rich country with the darkest pages of history not very long ago.
I also share the Kigali story in my WA group - tell my friend who just elected as law makers. Whether they listen or not is not important.
So many small things that we can do just to make us happy. Not always successful though; or the impact is almost nothing, but at least we are happy doing something regardless the result.
Actually, I can see very small changes. Similar when we lived in Egypt, there's a traffic light I passed everyday where none stop when red light. I asked my drive to follows the traffic light, and used emergency light to avoid collision from behind. I recall, initially only my car and few my colleague. After 6 years, I could see almost all obey the traffic light. I dont care if it was because of us, or their own awareness - but I least I'm happy doing the right thing.
Back to Bali, I'm happy there's actually many people, bule, half bule as well as locals are doing much much better to fight against plastic waste.
This amazing lady is just one example they have been doing since they are very young, I think a decade ago. many more, but yes, far from enough. So, why not make yourself happy doing something more useful.
 
Very wise words @Wisnu !

Thank you.

And the Cairo story made me laugh 🤣🤣
I worked there for 1 year early 80's.
Hey, when in Rome do like the Romans do....
 
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Our housing complex has garbage service included in our 150k monthly fee. I think it’s 2-3 times a week pickup.

My wife loves to open the windows for cool, fresh air in the morning. Lately, half the mornings, she has the close the windows quickly, as someone is burning garbage at 6-7am, and the smell is horrible.

Why burn stuff when you already have a garbage collection service? I have some problems breathing, and can’t tolerate strong scents or smoke.
 
It's very true. After spent more than 20 years as TKI in various country, I live in small village east Bali - beautiful place, very green or golden yellow rice paddy fields, crystal clear water continuously flowing, with the majestic mount Agung look after us. Unfortunately, rubbish - particularly plastic are almost every where. People still do not realize or pretend do not know that plastics is not same as banana leaves or bamboo leaves or taro leaves. Even I can see plastic rubbish on the subak waterways where the water not only used for irrigation. Many people use it for bathing and washing their clothes. There's small garbage dump where people can drop their rubbish, and 2-3 times a week, a truck will collect and dump to the TPA 12 km away. During main festive session, the garbage dump not able to handle the massive quantity of rubbish, though not too bad as most are organic rubbish. Many people still burn their rubbish - mostly organic - in their yard as they believe it's more effective than bringing rubbish everyday to the garbage dump with their small scooter or walking a km or more.
When people live in poverty and have to manage less than Rp. 50k per day to feed their family; they do have their own priority which is different than mine. Sure it not a good excuse as there's some area like Penglipuran village where their village is very clean - it's another interesting story.
So, what I (assuming I'm more intelligent and well educated) should I do? complaining to the sky, whining, screaming to them, telling them than the planet will end tomorrow, while million USD spent to drop thousand tones of bomb and spread million bullet to fertilize the soil with blood and fleshes.
Sure, we can always blame the government and extend our anger to the society.
I'm not trying to pretend to change the world. Infact, I'm very selfish as what I did is solely for me, to make me happy. So, I start with me and people around me.
We interact with people around us. They can see that we never burn our rubbish; instead fermented to compost; use it for our garden.
We pick-up plastic rubbish from our paddy field and our project - and show-of, from the street too.
I just back from Kigali, Rwanda - so, I share the story about this amazing country - how clean the city though they are not rich country with the darkest pages of history not very long ago.
I also share the Kigali story in my WA group - tell my friend who just elected as law makers. Whether they listen or not is not important.
So many small things that we can do just to make us happy. Not always successful though; or the impact is almost nothing, but at least we are happy doing something regardless the result.
Actually, I can see very small changes. Similar when we lived in Egypt, there's a traffic light I passed everyday where none stop when red light. I asked my drive to follows the traffic light, and used emergency light to avoid collision from behind. I recall, initially only my car and few my colleague. After 6 years, I could see almost all obey the traffic light. I dont care if it was because of us, or their own awareness - but I least I'm happy doing the right thing.
Back to Bali, I'm happy there's actually many people, bule, half bule as well as locals are doing much much better to fight against plastic waste.
This amazing lady is just one example they have been doing since they are very young, I think a decade ago. many more, but yes, far from enough. So, why not make yourself happy doing something more useful.
Yes this true to a limit. If you go to the market, supermarkets, you will find all the fruits, and vegetables, are still put in plastic bags. At the supermarkets, only the large plastic bags are not available. So they offer to sell you a large bag, made from plastic to bundle your goods. It looks like many large bags, people bring are made from recycled plastic. I hope so! But unfortunately, almost all bottles are made from plastic. I see people gather only water bottles to recycle. What about soap, shampoo bottles, trays, boxes, kitchen equipment? I can only hope if they are gathered and taken to a recycling facility, they are reused. But as we all know, there are very few bins, outlets, for people to bring this rubbish. Many people reuse them, but most of it is thrown away, or burned, releasing toxic fumes into the atmosphere.
I don't buy 1.5 liter water bottles, but use the five gallon refillable ones. Many people do this also. A good idea would be if there were these Five gallon bottles of water set up all over the place, then people could reuse the small 1.5 liter bottles and get them refilled, thus greatly reducing them be disposed of. As I have said before, even if it is more expensive, all plastic should be made with biodegradable oils and materials. Can seaweed be used to make plastic?
 
Our housing complex has garbage service included in our 150k monthly fee. I think it’s 2-3 times a week pickup.

My wife loves to open the windows for cool, fresh air in the morning. Lately, half the mornings, she has the close the windows quickly, as someone is burning garbage at 6-7am, and the smell is horrible.

Why burn stuff when you already have a garbage collection service? I have some problems breathing, and can’t tolerate strong scents or smoke.
It could be these people burning don't live in your complex, or are just lazy?
 
It still comes down to the ugly reality that this issue of plastic waste will not go away until governments sheets responsibility back to the manufacturers who profit from this pernicious process. Of course it is important that you and I do what we can at an individual level but it needs governments to legislate and require petroleum companies to pay huge amounts to stop this rubbish. And of course if we were able to examine the books I think we would find petroleum companies giving large amounts of money to political parties. Large amounts but much less than the cost for effectively dealing with waste problems. Ultimately it is a political issue that requires recognition so that we can vote in to power politicians committed to protecting the environment.
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