The face slap lady has done a runner.

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I had been wondering as to the outcome of the charges against the British - Bangladeshi woman who slapped in the Indonesian immigration official's face and then got charged with, I presume, assault.

Today's midday TV news reported that she has done a runner. My lack of Indonesian language skills disables me from giving you the full story but it seemed she was on bail and slipped away. Fascinating, did she swim, fly. take a boat? I presume her passport details would be entered in such a manner that she would be exposed the moment she presented for travel.

It will be interesting to see if the escape details come to light.
 

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I had been wondering as to the outcome of the charges against the British - Bangladeshi woman who slapped in the Indonesian immigration official's face and then got charged with, I presume, assault.

Today's midday TV news reported that she has done a runner. My lack of Indonesian language skills disables me from giving you the full story but it seemed she was on bail and slipped away. Fascinating, did she swim, fly. take a boat? I presume her passport details would be entered in such a manner that she would be exposed the moment she presented for travel.

It will be interesting to see if the escape details come to light.
It would be monumentally stupid if she actually had he passport. But hey...

Anyway, local newspaper reports she did not show up 3 (!!) times for her court date, and has checked out from the hotel she was in.

http://www.balipost.com/news/2019/01/30/67589/Menghilang,Penampar-Petugas-Imigrasi-Tiga...html
 

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Foreign convicts doing a runner seems to be the trend now...

They haven't caught Pak Felix Dorfin who escaped from a Lombok Polda cell two weeks ago and he didn't have a passport, looks far more bule-ish than the face slap lady who "may" pass for a local of arab descent and he is/was walking around in an island with far less tourist he can blend with than the face slap lady in Bali.

Conclusion: I am not surprised that she has tried. She knows that the odds are in her favor considering the corruption and lack of coordination and training of the force when it comes to investigate and search across the archipelago.


Anyway, the woman has obviously a type of mental disorder. She has been nuts enough to plead not guilty of the charges, considering that it was legitimate for her to slap the officer because he was allegedly incompetent in answering her questions concerning the overstay and was retaining her passport causing her to miss her flight. She concluded after being repeatedly asked about the reasons for her slapping the officer that it was "well deserved". Oh well...

During her trial she has been emotional multiple times and had to be escorted out of court after grumbling loudly following the prosecutors reading of their demands. It triggered some cursing at the police officers from her and a threat to a photograph to destroy his camera for having taken pictures of her. Tough woman. I am thankful not to be involved in her life.
 

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This link is rather telling:

The prosecutor discovered that the woman had checked out from the hotel, adding: “We have already coordinated with the police (to find her), but have been unable to locate her. But what’s clear, the defendant is still in Bali. Her hand phone remains active.”

Because her hand phone remains active, she is still in Bali... Wow... What a great investigator Pak Prosecutor is. I don't know you, but if I would be doing a runner, the first thing I would dump is my hp, or better, I would entrust it to someone going in the exact opposite direction of where I go knowing that police would track my hp first..
 

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This is a bit of a tangent, but you'll see why the above story reminds me of something that happened decades ago ...

Back in the 1980s I lived on the tiny island of Pohnpei, in Micronesia. There were only 200 or so expats on island, so of course we all knew each other. One of them, Lee, was our insurance agent. A few years after we had left, we heard through the coconut wire that Lee had moved to Guam, where he worked for the US Post Office, and embezzled $90,000 and disappeared. We weren't sure whether to believe it or not; after all, $90,000 isn't much if you need to survive permanently as a fugitive.

Fast forward 10 years, and we are hanging out on Jl. Malioboro in Jogja. The street was crowded, as usual. Suddenly my husband turned to me and said, "I just saw Lee across the street."

I was like, "um, yeah, sure you did ... after TEN YEARS you remember what he looked like? And we actually crossed paths? I think you saw some random foreign tourist and your imagination is working overtime."

Well, guess what. About three days later there was a headline in the Jakarta Post to the effect that, "American wanted for robbing US Post Office nabbed in Jogja."

I suppose you could survive for a decade in Jogja, or maybe an outlying village on $90k, though I suspect he had a local wife or girlfriend to make most purchases so he could avoid the pajak bule. I wonder where he is now? Rotting away in prison somewhere, if not dead. He must be in his 70s or older by now.
 

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In reality, sadly, even $1m is not really enough to survive and live off for the rest of your life let alone with the world's finest (or at least Bali's finest) looking for you
Considering location, property, income, medical etc and having to maybe also create new identity, plastic surgery etc

Unless literally you just want to live like a hideaway nomad on a desert island and survive on $500 a month
Ironically you stand out more than just moving to New York and blending in working in a McD's and living in the Bronx

For example, even Atlantis stands out in Manado. But in Paris, maybe not.
 

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This link is rather telling:

The prosecutor discovered that the woman had checked out from the hotel, adding: “We have already coordinated with the police (to find her), but have been unable to locate her. But what’s clear, the defendant is still in Bali. Her hand phone remains active.”

Because her hand phone remains active, she is still in Bali... Wow... What a great investigator Pak Prosecutor is. I don't know you, but if I would be doing a runner, the first thing I would dump is my hp, or better, I would entrust it to someone going in the exact opposite direction of where I go knowing that police would track my hp first..
Good thing they don't have to deal with real criminals around here....:becky:
 

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Good thing they don't have to deal with real criminals around here....:becky:
Funny thing is that it is exactly what I was discussing with my wife minutes ago. Manado (and the whole Indonesia) is pretty safe and it isn't due to an outstanding job of the police but rather to a lack of real gangsters the type we have to deal with back home.
 

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Good thing they don't have to deal with real criminals around here....:becky:
Likewise it is often stunning to see the naivety of people in charge.

In the case of Felix Dorfin, the drug kurir who has escaped from a Polda cell, a female KomPol (mid level officer, lower rank) has been arrested and is highly suspected to have facilitate the escape.

It is stunning to read the story: she has apparently received two transfers of money from the family back home, first one of Rp 7 millions and second one of Rp 7,5 millions. She has used this money to buy a television for the escapee and treat him with decent food, to buy him a phone and pulsa but also to provide a curtain for the cell window and some sheets for the "bed".

Not only it's an obvious breach of ethic, but our KomPol perhaps should have seen it (the escape) coming if she would have used a few brain cells.

The drug kurir already tried to escape when he was about to be arrested and tried to commit suicide so it is pretty obvious to me that it was not in his plan to attend his court trial. He also is suspected to have performed several successful drug deliveries prior to his arrest, his passport showing several entry/exit stamp in Indonesia, each time for short stays. We can reasonably assume that he has some connections with some pretty bad boys.

Do you provide a TV (to cover the noise while being busy sawing the bar cell), a handphone (to organize a run) and curtain and sheets (to make a rope) to a guy with a similar profile? I don't, because it's obvious that I am gonna be the first one in trouble. How does the cop miss it is beyond me.
 

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/woman-who-slapped-immigration-official-at-bali-airport-goes-missing-hours-before-court-hearing

The foxnews story has some details. Apparently she is Pakistani-British and was born in Lahore. Since Pakistan does not require renunciation of citizenship, I would assume she is dual British and Pakistani. I would not be surprised if she could get new/different Pakistan passport from the Pakistan government. I would trust the British government not to comply, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Pakistani government didn't. Could she get out of the country under a different passport?
 

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/woman-who-slapped-immigration-official-at-bali-airport-goes-missing-hours-before-court-hearing

The foxnews story has some details. Apparently she is Pakistani-British and was born in Lahore. Since Pakistan does not require renunciation of citizenship, I would assume she is dual British and Pakistani. I would not be surprised if she could get new/different Pakistan passport from the Pakistan government. I would trust the British government not to comply, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Pakistani government didn't. Could she get out of the country under a different passport?
If the immigration officers are honest, no. Because then that passport has no record of entering Indonesia, so it should raise alarm.
 

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If the immigration officers are honest, no. Because then that passport has no record of entering Indonesia, so it should raise alarm.
Plus the fact that Pakistan is one of the 13 "lucky" country to be on the list of countries whose citizens require a 'calling visa" (read needing a specific authorization from the Ditjenim prior to be issued) as per the 2010 relevant regulation.

If there is no way that she leaves the country through a TPI without paying the a huge bribe (Apologies to Mas Fred for implying that the Holly Officers of Imigrasi may be corruptible), the fact to potentially having a second passport from a different country may help her to evade attention from Interpol if she manages to enter another country. However it will have to be one pretty far from Indonesia because the neighboring countries are more likely to cooperate with Indonesian police and turn her back, as it has been done in the past (examples abound with The Philippines and Timor Leste)

Anyway if she shows up at a TPI, all officers will be far too busy barricading and protecting themselves. Watch again the video and hear the sound of the slap. You don't f*ck with the lady and they know it. No chance she gets a stamp.
 

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Very good restraint by officers there. I would have tasered the heck out of her.
 

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Yes definitely that's also where I would have hidden too, in the biggest mall in Bali

Maybe she thought her fake Raybans would be a good disguise
 

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Six months in jail and no doubt deportation and what must be in effect a permanent black listing to follow. Surely with her winning personality she'll make lots of friends in Hotel K. Anyway, that's the last we'll see of her in Bali, thank god.
 

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Six months in jail and no doubt deportation and what must be in effect a permanent black listing to follow. Surely with her winning personality she'll make lots of friends in Hotel K. Anyway, that's the last we'll see of her in Bali, thank god.

Until she escapes!
 

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