Quebec attack, sad

[Nimbus]

I was responding to the then baseless suggestion that this was a white nationalist attack. I then deleted the part of my post that turned out to be based on a wrong report in the media.

I am not sure why you feel that it is dishonest to delete wrong information rather than leave it up when times has shown it to be wrong. To be clear, the part of the post I was responding to remains baseless, so the point I left up still stands.

You can't rush to post 'na naa naa Trump did this' every time something bad happens, before there is even in any evidence to support it. That's far more dishonest than correcting an incorrect report. Or do you have some more info about the Texas mosque burning ???

Some people do rush to blame Trump, and you rush to blame anybody but. I'm just glad that you have made your bias known.

Deleting wrong information is good, but in this context it's dishonest because it creates the appearance that you never posted it in the first place.

We all make mistakes, honest people own it and move on, while Trump pretends it never happened in the first place.

 

[fastpitch17]

Move on. It's just alternative facts.

 

[Nimbus]

Move on. It's just alternative facts.

People who live in the alternative universe need alternative facts.

 

[PhilippeD]

Talking about alternative fact...

Canadian Prime Minister officially ask FOX news to stop repeating lie about the Quebecois slaughter. NO! it's not a morrocan muslim who slaughter the other muslim at the mosque.

They (fox news) even go into inventing motive on the like he was a Sunnite who decide to eliminate Shiite (making echo to the ISIS).
Like if a Morrocan could be sunnite!
From what I know, the Morrocan and their king are among the more peaceful among the north africa country

 

[sumyunggai]

Some people do rush to blame Trump, and you rush to blame anybody but. I'm just glad that you have made your bias known.

What? This is not a thread about Trump.

A mosque was attacked in French Canada, someone (not me!) decided to turn it into a thread about Trump.

At the time we had no information about the suspect, it wasn't an unreasonable assumption that it would be a crazy white guy, however it is stupid to spend the next 8 years blaming every crazy white guy on Trump. There have been crazy white guys before Trump and there will be after Trump.

If I were to speculate about motivations, I would say Trudeau, as the Canadian PM, and someone who has made a lot of statements supporting diversity, would be a hate figure for the Canadian far-right and maybe this is why he 'flipped', because he felt his point of view was losing.

As I understand it, extremist groups tend to decline under right-wing governments - the British NF collapsed under Thatcher, for example. And they grow under left-of-centre ones, as happened subsequently in Britain.

Deleting wrong information is good, but in this context it's dishonest because it creates the appearance that you never posted it in the first place.

We all make mistakes, honest people own it and move on, while Trump pretends it never happened in the first place.

I didn't make a mistake though. At the time I posted the reporting was that there were two shooters, one of whom was a Moroccan, and that they shouted allahu akbar.

When that information turned out to be wrong I removed it. Media sources reporting on the 'Moroccan suspect' have been criticised for not removing this fast enough.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...rate-tweet-about-quebec-shooting-suspect.html

I don't see that it's helpful in any way to leave incorrect information up in a news thread.

 

[PhilippeD]

Talking about alternative fact...

Canadian Prime Minister officially ask FOX news to stop repeating lie about the Quebecois slaughter. NO! it's not a morrocan muslim who slaughter the other muslim at the mosque.

They (fox news) even go into inventing motive on the like he was a Sunnite who decide to eliminate Shiite (making echo to the ISIS).
Like if a Morrocan could be sunnite!
From what I know, the Morrocan and their king are among the most peaceful among the north africa country

 

[PhilippeD]

In his interrogation the ascension of Trump to the presidency (and his comment openly racist) would had a major impact to give to the men the motivation of the action.


In most news, the name of the men is no more mentionned as same as his picture for not encouraging... I don't remember how they call that... but something like for not give him "fame" which could encourage other to do similar act for a similar "fame".