New Bali Northern airport

[Balifrog]

Nice video on the technical issues for this construction.
Having worked 33 years in foundation and soil improvement I really liked the detailed explanation, which is correct B.T.W.


But no way it will open in 2028.... Maybe the artificial island will be ready by then.

 

[Shadrach]

Nice video on the technical issues for this construction.
Having worked 33 years in foundation and soil improvement I really liked the detailed explanation, which is correct B.T.W.


But no way it will open in 2028.... Maybe the artificial island will be ready by then.

This all sounds like a Nightmare, Not a Dream! As I thought, China will Pay for it, have Full control, collect the tolls, and Destroy the North Coast of Bali! as of Now, there is not any infrastructure to handle the Thousands of People, with Roads, Accommodations, Services. The Chinese will build a Toll road and collect all the Money, who knows what this Airport will look like? I have been the Changi Airport in Singapore, and wonder if this new one here can even scratch the surface in Comparison!

 

[Bob]

Has it been determined where precisely this is supposed to be built?

 

[Balifrog]

Has it been determined where precisely this is supposed to be built?

Not sure yet !

https://jakartaglobe.id/news/transportation-ministry-sets-conditions-for-north-bali-airport-to-proceed

"Lukman pointed to a 2020 letter from the Bali governor that canceled an earlier proposed site in Kubutambahan and suggested a new location in Sumberklampok. He said the letter should serve as a key reference for decision-makers."

 

[Balifrog]

And an "artist imigination" of the future Bali subway.

Important Bali Metro And Highway Development Project Updates Issued To Holidaymakers

In Bali, the traffic is an inescapable reality. In 2026, however, local leaders want to see major improvements.

thebalisun.com

Click on the video in the article....Isn't it a lovely place ?

Too bad I won't live another 50 years to see it

 

[harryopal1]

One has the impression that perhaps the main impetus for these great projects is the money to be made with the various constructions. The outcomes are great for the wheeler dealers but not so great in terms of providing the supposed benefits.

The planned total cost for developing Kertajati International Airport was estimated at around Rp 25.4 trillion (Indonesian rupiah) for its construction and infrastructure. Being 68 ks west of the city just getting to and fro is so appallingly difficult that many people prefer to fly to Jakarta and then transit to Bandung from there. My WNI wife needs to travel to Bandung in April. It seems there are no longer direct flights from Denpasar to Bandung. The word is that there is a plan to convert Kertajati into an army base or airport and revitalize the old Bandung airport.

I find myself wondering how the great new Jimbaran underpass will work given the monsoon rains and the tendency for flooding at the present Ngurah Rai by pass. I am no engineer but it sounds rather perilous and costly.

 

[jstar]

My WNI wife needs to travel to Bandung in April. It seems there are no longer direct flights from Denpasar to Bandung.

If you want to avoid driving around Jakarta with a shuttle bus or so, you might want to look into flying to Halim. With Citilink for instance. Then there you take the Whoosh at the station next door to Bandung, which is fast and convenient. (But be warned, you do need a free and self explanatory commuter train at the end.)

Whoosh

ticket.kcic.co.id

 

[harryopal1]

If you want to avoid driving around Jakarta with a shuttle bus or so, you might want to look into flying to Halim. With Citilink for instance. Then there you take the Whoosh at the station next door to Bandung, which is fast and convenient. (But be warned, you do need a free and self explanatory commuter train at the end.)

Whoosh

ticket.kcic.co.id

This bit I don't understand. " (But be warned, you do need a free and self explanatory commuter train at the end.)"

 

[jstar]

This bit I don't understand. " (But be warned, you do need a free and self explanatory commuter train at the end.)"

When they built the Whoosh high speed train, they decided that the end station would not be at the main station in the center of Bandung, but west of the city. Budgetary constraints I guess.

So to solve that -most people want to go to the center- they use something they call a ‘feeder train’ that brings you from Padalarang station to the central station. It’s for free but that small train takes an additional 20 minutes.

 

[ChrisOnBali]

Tell you what, how about we sort out what to do with the rubbish & recycling first, then progress to paving a gang so it doesn't flood whenever it rains and end up cratering 3 months later, and major roads that don't get flooded axle-deep in rainy season; then get better at planning things like roads going from where people are to where people need to go... and gradually move up to vast infrastructure projects when we've got the basics sorted

Interesting video though, but perhaps it'd be better to build it somewhere else where there is lots of open land and try to get the tourists to go there instead, it's not like Indonesia is short of land overall, forking out vast sums in a not 100% guaranteed attempt to defy nature just seems nuts.

Also of course, lots more tourists coming in means lots more power and water needed, lots more rubbish etc. etc. - maybe the video mentions plans for these considerations later, but we're having enough trouble with those things as it is !

 

[centurion]

When they built the Whoosh high speed train, they decided that the end station would not be at the main station in the center of Bandung, but west of the city. Budgetary constraints I guess.

That is the Chinese concept where new settlements anc centers of economic activity would develop around these new stations.

 

[ChrisOnBali]

That is the Chinese concept where new settlements anc centers of economic activity would develop around these new stations.

Yep, having seen the whole of the video now that's certainly the plan... I mean, it all looks very shiny in the simulation but.. and I say this with a deep fondess for Bali, the place where I chose (and still would choose) to gradually go deaf/mad/blind/expired but... this is Bali... it's really not going to work out like the shiny simulation is it !?!

Frankly, I really hope they decide to do it somewhere else, i.e. not on Bali. The whole idea looks utterly horrific to me !! Sure, the existing airport is crazily overstretched but how about building another small airport in the North if you really must, but not embarking on some vast two-fingers-up-to-nature monstrosity that will no doubt make a small number of people very rich but probably not work out so well for everyone else, probably end up being a huge financial millstone around the necks of normal tax-paying folk, and generally be totally out of character for Bali.

 

[harryopal1]

It sounds like the Bandung Kertajati airport all over again. Billions of dollars and useless. I wonder if the same construction people from Kertajati are lining up for the new Bali airport?

 

[Bob]

That is the Chinese concept where new settlements anc centers of economic activity would develop around these new stations.

It’s an old concept and not particularly Chinese. As long as the railroad has good passenger and or freight loads it tends to hold true.

 

[centurion]

It’s an old concept and not particularly Chinese. As long as the railroad has good passenger and or freight loads it tends to hold true.

Making stations in the middle of nowhere is not somehow usual.

 

[harryopal1]

Making stations in the middle of nowhere is not somehow usual.

Yes, but who owns the land? In Australia Sir Thomas Bent (1904–1909): Known as "Bent by name, Bent by nature," is recognized as one of Victoria's most controversial premiers. He was a land speculator and developer who used his position as Railways Minister and Premier to prioritize the construction of railway and tram lines to areas where he owned property, such as the St Kilda to Brighton line, causing his land values to skyrocket. He was noted for taking kickbacks, having conflicts of interest, and using his power to benefit his own landholdings.

Does this has a familiar ring to it whenever looking at major projects?

 

[centurion]

Does this has a familiar ring to it whenever looking at major projects?

Sure.
Indonesian government made the Kertajati airport in the middle of nowhere and closed theone in Bandung. They spent billion of USD and there is only one fight per week from there. Sounds like excellent plan to go.

 

[Bob]

Making stations in the middle of nowhere is not somehow usual.

It was the norm in the US and I suppose in other sparsely populated places. There are a lot of towns which grew up around railroad stations or junctions.

 

[serious_fun]

Apparently Kertajati is such a waste of funds that Bandung airport will probably reopen... with Kertajati being used for religious pilgrimage flights...and emergencies of course.