Latest Trump success.

[dafluff]

For those unaware, this is Alex Jones:

(I will leave judgement as to whether anyone listening to him, or cites him as a source has any credibility, to the viewer )

 

[Davita]

At last Trump has been successful in something. Yesterday his wife's parents became USA citizens. The question is how did they get green cards in the first place?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...elania-trumps-parents/?utm_term=.e2b4e0657f1d

According to the USA immigration policy.....
(i) In general.-Any immigrant who is or has been a member of or affiliated with the Communist or any other totalitarian party (or subdivision or affiliate thereof), domestic or foreign, is inadmissible.

WP and other media reports her father was.....
"As for her parents, Viktor Knavs is a former member of the Yugoslav Communist Party who worked as the chauffeur for the mayor of his home town, Sevnica, and supposedly became a successful car salesman; other reports say he sold auto parts."

 

[Jamu]

To add to Davita's interesting observation, Trump's in-laws got citizenship under the "chain migration" program that Trump himself has launched an all out war against and has vowed to eradicate. Of course, his in-laws are white (plus they're HIS in-laws) so I'm sure the Dumpster and the pathetic lickers of his oversized ass are totally fine with the blatant hypocrisy. Ain't America great again!?!

 

[Davita]

To add to Davita's interesting observation, Trump's in-laws got citizenship under the "chain migration" program that Trump himself has launched an all out war against and has vowed to eradicate. Of course, his in-laws are white (plus they're HIS in-laws) so I'm sure the Dumpster and the pathetic lickers of his oversized ass are totally fine with the blatant hypocrisy. Ain't America great again!?!

I omitted to mention that because, according to the media, Immigration aren't releasing the method they used to come to the USA...although the 'chain family migration' is most likely.
You are correct.... he has launched a war about that and I watched his past speeches to his core believers where he said anyone can enter thru' that scheme. He said uncles/aunts nephews/nieces can all jump on the bandwagon. That was another Trumpian lie because it has never permitted them to apply. The farthest relative is a brother/sister of an American citizen. I know because my sister sponsored me and, after 10 years of waiting, they said I could apply for a Green Card...but the application form was so restrictive I never applied...and I lost US$1000 (my non-refundable deposit for 2 apps).

 

[Asun]

Asun ive been a quiet observer in this thread as whilst i think Trump is a bit of a lunatic I have seen some success with some of his policies and I am open enough to admit that.

But you made claims of media bias and fake news and then tried to use a post that comes from Alex Jones Prison Planet website. The same Alex Jones that tries to discredit school shooting victims. The same Alex Jones that admitted he lies and is "in character" during his divorce trial. The same Alex Jones that claims Clinton ran a pedo ring from a pizza shop. The same Alex Jones who claims the government are trying to make all frogs gay (really?? that one is funny)

Now im sorry But you no longer have any credibility and I would suggest the mods to block you from posting shit like this.

Paul Joseph Watson is not Alex Jones. Guilt by association is to be frowned upon.
Besides, are we now shooting the messenger instead of the message? Are the approval numbers wrong?

 

[Davita]

[QUOTE="Asun, post: 54082, member: 958" Are the approval numbers wrong?[/QUOTE]

I already gave you a contradictory gallup poll to suggest your figures are wrong which you have inadvertently, or ignorantly, decided to ignore.
If you wish to maintain any nuance of sense and credibility you need more verification to support your points than just splashing propaganda pictures from individuals who are well-known conspiratorial adventurers..

To further clarify here are more recent contradictory reasons your post was inaccurate...

https://www.pastemagazine.com/artic...posted-a-poorly-doctored-photo-of-trumps.html

From an article from Pew research centre....."Four-in-ten Americans approve of Trump’s job performance while 54% say they disapprove, according to a Pew Research Center survey in June. Trump’s approval ratings have hardly moved in surveys conducted by the Center this year, and his current rating is nearly identical to the 39% who said they approved of his performance in February 2017, shortly after his inauguration.'

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

 

[R Cameron]

@Asun
Don't feel too bad, you're not the only one falling for fake poll numbers https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...in-a-doctored-poll-graphic-shared-by-his-son/

edit: an alternative link for those not able to access the washington post link: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...graphic-instagram_us_5b6dc7a0e4b0530743c9b38b

 

[Asun]

Are the approval numbers wrong?

I already gave you a contradictory gallup poll to suggest your figures are wrong which you have inadvertently, or ignorantly, decided to ignore.
If you wish to maintain any nuance of sense and credibility you need more verification to support your points than just splashing propaganda pictures from individuals who are well-known conspiratorial adventurers..

To further clarify here are more recent contradictory reasons your post was inaccurate...

https://www.pastemagazine.com/artic...posted-a-poorly-doctored-photo-of-trumps.html

From an article from Pew research centre....."Four-in-ten Americans approve of Trump’s job performance while 54% say they disapprove, according to a Pew Research Center survey in June. Trump’s approval ratings have hardly moved in surveys conducted by the Center this year, and his current rating is nearly identical to the 39% who said they approved of his performance in February 2017, shortly after his inauguration.'

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Well, how did Gallup do during the 2016 election? Not too accurate, I think.
Rasmussen came closest, even though still off. Here we go:
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approval-rating-obama-higher-1054927

The latest Rasmussen Reports poll, which has often reflected higher approval ratings for Trump than most other major polls, pegged Trump’s latest rating at 50 percent. In August 2010, Obama earned a 45 percent approval rating.

Let's see how Frau Merkel is doing:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...lls-all-time-low-ruling-bloc-damaged-migrant/

Mrs Merkel’s Christian Democrats (CDU) and their Bavarian allies fell to just 29 per cent in the poll for ARD television, down four points from last year’s election.

And Monsieur Macron:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...-french-president-popularity-drops-poll-shows

The poll, conducted by YouGov for the Huffington Post and the French television channel CNews, showed that Mr Macron’s approval rating had fallen to 27 per cent, down five percentage points from June.

Wow, this is even worse than Paul's tweet. I guess you got me there. Infowars is fake news.

 

[Davita]

Re Post # 48
Asun....what has any of the copy you made from my links have anything to do with your contention that Trump's approval is 50%....none of it.

You argue that all polls are wrong...except your posts #29 and #37.

I'm not willing to debate anymore with you as you are apparently so convinced of your own findings and not willing to accept when I show contradictory facts from many sources. your response is to twist and turn, or change the conversation, just like your hero Trump.
I would hope other members can see your game and also ignore you.

Have a good life.

 

[Asun]

Since the thread is about Trump's success, the assertion is that Trump has successfully outpolled other leaders of major Western countries by a comfortable margin despite constant negative coverage. This assertion is demonstrably true because there are polls showing such number.

Whether poll results are accurate proxies of people's sentiment, or good predictor of election results, or even useful in general, those belong to a separate discussion. Now, can we agree that Trump has successfully bested his major Western counterparts in a meaningless measurement?

 

[Anglian]

One should be very careful relying on poll figures, May thought she had a big lead over Corbyn in the polls only to nearly lose in the election,polls are almost meaningless as people are so fickle they change their minds at the drop of a hat

 

[azrielariel]

This might offend some people but the fact is, all people working in government are liars. The truth is never what you think it is, nor told what it is, or even what the facts given present them self as.

What is interesting is the level of angst one party has for the other will bring out a level of disclosure and speculation unlike anything else.

 

[Gratilla]

This might offend some people but the fact is, all people working in government are liars

Not only liars. Most are also corrupt and incompetent.

And don't worry about offending anyone here - most of us can take it.

 

[Davita]

President Trump has, at last, had some success.

"In March 2016, President Obama banned the sale of precision-guided military technology to Saudi Arabia over “human rights concerns.”

"Two months after taking office President Trump, after doing the sword dance with his Saudi friends, overturned the ban and sold US$1,29B worth of mainly 22,000 lazer guided bombs to the Saudi military."

The Saudis, flying American built jets, refueled in-flight by American tankers, aided by American target operators struck. This time the U.S. made bomb hitting a school bus in the middle of a market place and murdering at least 44 children.
According to Secretary of Defense James Mattis: “I will tell you that we do help them plan what we call, kind of targeting. We do not do dynamic targeting for them.”

Some success....the Saudis are doing their own investigation but, just as many times before, it will come out as white-wash.
A real International team need to investigate this tragedy and report to UN and Human Rights Watch.
It needs to ask the pilot who selected the target...who authorized the kill...who was in charge of the operation that day and how much American influence was applied....or not.

Trump has breached all norms and he needs to be investigated for his activity of war crimes against civilians...the American people need to know if their leader has taken USA into the realm of being a nation of war criminal if they were complicit in killing all those children.
It is no use shifting blame...a lazer guided bomb is an accurate device intended to prevent collateral damage to civilians so....were those children selected to be murdered and was USA complicit in their murder?.

 

[waarmstrong]

This might offend some people but the fact is, all people working in government are liars. The truth is never what you think it is, nor told what it is, or even what the facts given present them self as.

What is interesting is the level of angst one party has for the other will bring out a level of disclosure and speculation unlike anything else.

Not only liars. Most are also corrupt and incompetent.
And don't worry about offending anyone here - most of us can take it.

Classic conspiratorial irrationality. The broad use of superlatives tags your comments as meaningless.

 

[Davita]

Yesterday was the anniversary of the 2001 attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon.
President Trump made a speech which I found incomprehensible and had little to do with this invasion by 19 Saudis and 4 others from Egypt, UAR and Lebanon....NO Iranian was involved.
Today Trump's big pals are Saudi's and he just sold them...
.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...bomb-that-killed-40-children-school-bus-yemen

The Saudi spokesperson said the incineration of those children were not Saudi's fault as it was a Sunday and there was no school on Sundays....
Last Updated Aug 9, 2018 7:06 PM EDT
ISTANBUL -- There was a horrifying attack Thursday in Yemen -


Where would Saudi's learn to use this lying and the audacity to.....'Deny'..'Deny'.. 'Deny'.
UN, Human Rights and other International bodies should be filing charges of genocide.....all the way to who-ever in Lockheed Martin was willing to burn those kids to death....the serial number of the bomb was still clear and America needs to take responsibility....if it had Russian markings I'd guess the story would be different

 

[snpark]

Don't forget the double fist pump

 

[Supir Angkot]

Don't forget the double fist pump

Eh, you’d be doing the same thing had your wifey doubled up the dose on your jamu tolak angin and kerokan, no?

 

[Gratilla]

UN, Human Rights and other International bodies should be filing charges of genocide.

And therein lies the problem!

Pretty much any country can kill as they please - Myanmar, China, Israel, some African Countries, some S American countries, etc, etc, etc.

The blue helmets in particular are a joke, more interested in raping the local women (without repercussions) than getting constructively involved.

Detect some cynicism? Damn right.

 

[Nimbus]

Didn't the FBI already start illegally spying on the Trump campaign by mid 2016? With the illegal spying and Mueller investigation, they still got nothing on Trump? Can it be that Trump is the best vetted president in history?

This has gotten so farcical that even the Russians are putting this ad for RT:

If you actually believe the FBI was illegally spying on Trump, then I can safely ignore anything you say on the matter of his presidency, as it's going to be lacking in facts.