Difficulty contacting new Immigration Office in Banyuwangi .

"With all the shit of the last month the 60 days is up tomorrow and I face the prospect of having my KITAP cancelled due to no fault of mine and having to go through a tribunal to get it back . "

That part sounds extremely optimistic IMO....
 
After near 2 months of misleading information from google AI , not being able to contact Immigration Banyuwangi or open links on there web pages Re: Death of spouse /sponsor etc etc and bloody libur national /public holidays again I fronted up at the office this morning only to have the red carpet rolled out , Young female officer helped no end , registered my new sponsor on the e-visa sight , processed all the changes required , sent email to director general which should be replied to mid next week with an OK on all changes hopefully . She sore no reason for them to reject /say no to anything . And no mention of any fine for late notification or fees for the changes . Might have to go back next week , My Surat Permintaan dan Jaminan had the TPI missing from the address and had a "c' in front of the brother in laws relationship to me , csudara ipar .which I'm sure the young girl who printed it for me removed /added when she moved things to fit it all on one page She'll let me know if I have to submit a new surat when i get the reply from the Director general . Google AI information not worth 2 knobs of goat shit ! I'm sure AI is fed by brain dead influencers , media and data creators etc .
 
Google AI information not worth 2 knobs of goat shit ! I'm sure AI is fed by brain dead influencers , media and data creators etc .
No sure why you would listen to AI about something this important. It's not like the process is etched in stone anyway. Each office may do something differently. Most offices certainly aren't going to actually do it for you. So it sounds like you are at least on top with that one.
 
Artificial intelligence not ACTUAL intelligence

So did you exit the country and re enter on a new visa in the end?
 
Artificial intelligence not ACTUAL intelligence

So did you exit the country and re enter on a new visa in the end?
No ! No mention of new / changing visa's . Changed sponsor which included the official notification of spouse / sponsors death , marital status ,new passport details on the e-visa website computer they had set up with the help of a young female officer . Only needed Death certificate , copy of my passport and current KITAP , KTP/KK, and Birth certificate copies from new sponsor who was with me and Surat Permitaan and Jaminaan from the new sponsor detailing the changes and why , all of which we had . The prospect of having to leave /re-enter was never a concern from what reliable information I could find or was told " THANKS MARCUS " , It was the possible fine "1mil rp a day" for late notification , which I'd calulated was only 43 days with all the weekends , public and religiuos holidays when the office was closed and they couldn't be contacted or I couldn't go to the office . Or having to start on a new 5 year visa because of the sponsor change of which neither was mentioned at the office . And no mention of the 500,000rp for each change !!
 
... computer they had set up with the help of a young female officer ...
It is probably common in all city's Immigration Offices now , so people can get face-to-face help on how to do the online processes . The uncommon in your case was that the officer did everything for you .
It was the possible fine "1mil rp a day" for late notification ...
There is no rule about fine due to late notification , as far as I know .
Or having to start on a new 5 year visa because of the sponsor change of which neither was mentioned at the office . And no mention of the 500,000rp for each change !!
Having to start a new Stay Permit (due to sponsor change) has happened before , but now in the online system we just select : "Action" , "Change Data" , then "Change of Guarantor" (similar to the address change's process and many others) , without affecting the existing Stay Permit . "Change of Guarantor" is supposed to cost Rp500k .

I think the officer did all for you because this online system's process is to be done by the sponsor , but in your case it is not possible & the officer assumed you don't have the access to : sponsor's phone & sponsor's evisa account .
 
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It is probably common in all Kantor Imigrasi now , so foreigners can get face-to-face help on how to do the online processes . The uncommon in your case was that the officer did everything for you .

There is no rule about fine due to late notification , as far as I know .

Having to start a new Stay Permit has happened before , but now in the online system we just select "Action" , "Change Data" , then "Change of Guarantor" , similar to the address change's process and many others ("Change of Guarantor" is supposed to cost Rp500k) .

I think the officer did all for you because this online system's process is to be done by the sponsor , but in your case it is not possible & the officer assumed you don't have the access to : sponsor's phone & sponsor's evisa account .
She helped with both mine and the new sponsors accounts , took photos of documents , photos of both myself and the new sponsor on her phone and uploaded everything , changed the required details . She conversed with my brother in law mostly , him being Javanese . I was surprised being in the foreign services department that nobody could or showed they could speak or understand English . She said we should get emails next week confirming the accounts are active . I was aware of the fees for change of details but when she didn't mention it or the fines I didn't bring it up . Now I'm registered I'll have to fiddle and familiarise myself with it as I'm due to renew my Kitap to unlimited in October . Thanks for your comments , information , help etc , much appreciated . Nice to have someone that helps rather than criticises . Cheers .
 

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