2016 US Presidential Election - Expat Indo Edition

[dafluff]

North Carolina just got called for Trump. With the loss of Florida, this pretty much concludes the election.

Also, the market is going into a free fall....Brexit 2.0 is officially happening:

http://money.cnn.com/data/premarket/

S&P -95.25 / -4.46%

Nasdaq -219.00 / -4.56%

Dow -709.00 / -3.88%

 

[Nasigan]

And the US dollar is diving..

 

[jukung11]

This is going to be an electoral landslide.

 

[dafluff]

Well, it's official, President Elect Donald Trump....wow, never thought that would happen.

Good game, USA.

 

[Bad_azz]

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-presidential-election-heads-for-tense-climax
"The financial markets are now indicating that Wall Street could suffer its biggest ever plunge when Wednesday’s trading session begins.
The Dow is predicted to shed 800 points - a bigger points fall than in September 2008 when the financial crisis struck."

 

[Jim69]

Trump wins US house

 

[Banana72]

Florida: What the fuck? Huge latino population there...perhaps some of them can't even vote?
Michigan...again..after all the bail out by Obama, and it's supposedly a Dem's state, how can Hillary even not winning by a landslide there??

 

[Jim69]

the FBI clearing her email scandal was just too late

 

[PhilippeD]

the FBI clearing her email scandal was just too late

It's also what I'm thinking.
How come they announce an investigation so late in the election. This have kill the democrate.

 

[Jim69]

what i fail to understand is how these two idiots got into this position. I am not sure that people actually want to vote for either of them

 

[Dan]

Florida: What the fuck? Huge latino population there...perhaps some of them can't even vote?
Michigan...again..after all the bail out by Obama, and it's supposedly a Dem's state, how can Hillary even not winning by a landslide there??

Huge CUBAN Latino population there, a population that is traditionally Republican. But you're forgetting that the panhandle of the state is also called the "Redneck Riviera" and shares demographic qualities with its neighbors on the Gulf Coast (i.e. white, Republican).

How can Hillary not win? Globalization, she's too connected to her husband's legacy and that doesn't sit well with factory workers and union members.

Aside from that, Hillary is now a two timer loser. What did the Democrats expect when they hobbled their best chance at winning due to party connections? A lot of people eating crow tonight. Nate Silver's career is in the toilet.

 

[Nasigan]

Today it's 9 November so I think it's a new kind of 9-11 coming for the USA and the world

 

[Nasigan]

Dan, with Trump as new president when or are you planning to come back to Indonesia ?

 

[jukung11]

Florida: What the fuck? Huge latino population there...perhaps some of them can't even vote?
Michigan...again..after all the bail out by Obama, and it's supposedly a Dem's state, how can Hillary even not winning by a landslide there??

Florida's Latinos are Cuban and Puerto Rican. They are legal and don't like illegal mexicans and central Americans. They are for the wall, people just didn't listen. Clinton did worse with Hispanics than Obama. Also Hispanics don't vote much. They vote less than black voters (who also didn't vote as much because there wasn't a black man running).

I said it a while ago. Lots of people were going to vote for trump, but lied in polling because the media told them everyday that trump was socially unacceptable.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect

 

[jukung11]

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-presidential-election-heads-for-tense-climax
"The financial markets are now indicating that Wall Street could suffer its biggest ever plunge when Wednesday’s trading session begins.
The Dow is predicted to shed 800 points - a bigger points fall than in September 2008 when the financial crisis struck."

The Dow was at 10,000 when that happened. It is at 18,000 now. That is comparing apples to oranges.
I think the market is a little inflated anyway.
Panic is profitable.

 

[Davita]

Given the 'fat lady is about to sing' what are the implications for Indonesia if Trump is President...is there anything outstanding that could change the status quo?

 

[Dan]

Dan, with Trump as new president when or are you planning to come back to Indonesia ?

I have too much invested here to just pick up and leave. I made arrangements for my wife and children to go back early next year (not because of Trump, because it's the last time my kids have a long period before the eldest starts Kindergarten) and I plan to stay here. If I didn't have a mortgage, car payments and other real life bills to attend to I'd be very tempted. Just the way it goes...

Besides, I'm not certain I'd prefer a country that puts up a competent governor on blasphemy charges. Indonesia might be a lateral move at best even if it is Muslim-centric.

Edit: However, my father just texted me asking for more information about Malaysia's my second home program and my parents are my primary reason for staying in America...

 

[dafluff]

Given the 'fat lady is about to sing' what are the implications for Indonesia if Trump is President...is there anything outstanding that could change the status quo?

Not sure about Indonesia, but Canada is going to get a lot of applications for permanent residency:

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-s-immigration-website-crashes-on-election-night-1.3152231

As if Vancouver/Toronto housing markets weren't ridiculous enough.

Canadians right now:

 

[Jim69]

just 6 more seats for trump to win

 

[dafluff]

Besides, I'm not certain I'd prefer a country that puts up a competent governor on blasphemy charges. Indonesia might be a lateral move at best even if it is Muslim-centric.

Pretty much this. The outlook for Indonesia isn't that rosy going forward either. And if anything, a Trump Presidency will probably make it marginally worse, as it is likely to galvanize hard line Muslims against moderates globally.