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    Wife divorced me in secret. How to prove it?

    The EMS postage to Thailand was 203,000 Rp. All he had to do was send an assistant to the KUA office in the same town with power of attorney to pick up the certificate. Easy money. Huge profit margin on 5 million. If I had known it was that simple I would have gone there and picked it up myself...
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    Wife divorced me in secret. How to prove it?

    DHL are quoting about 500,000 to Thailand. I was expecting people to say 'don't pay it!' because if even a lawyer won't stick to a contract then nothing is sacred. Well, I'll try telling him to send it first and show me the receipt and tracking number, then I will pay it. Goes against my...
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    Wife divorced me in secret. How to prove it?

    As far as I can recall, the instruction to marry again in the UK came from the British embassy. I assure you we wouldn't have done if it wasn't necessary at the time. Perhaps the rules have changed since. Anyway, an update on this. I paid 5 million to a lawyer in Indonesia to track down the...
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    Wife divorced me in secret. How to prove it?

    By the way, talking about the world changing... did anyone else notice how much Indonesian society changed after 9/11? The trend was towards secularism until then, and then it suddenly reversed gear. I think that was a big part of the problem.
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    Wife divorced me in secret. How to prove it?

    It wasn't a nikah siri, which I think is a kind of DIY thing. It was officially registered with the KUA and comes with a green Buku Nikah. Still not good enough for settlement in the UK though - perhaps simply because it is a Muslim ceremony and such a thing may have seemed too alien back in the...
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    Wife divorced me in secret. How to prove it?

    Agreed that it seems like a contradiction. The answer, I think, is that it is recognised in the UK as a legal marriage, but is insufficient for immigration (settlement) purposes. I don't know why that is. The law is an ass, as we know.
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    Wife divorced me in secret. How to prove it?

    I'm not contesting the divorce she got, which is valid in Indonesia and in itself terminates the UK marriage, as mentioned, so there's no polygamy issue. If I pretend that the Indonesian marriage/divorce doesn't exist and the UK marriage is the only valid one then I would have to go back to the...
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    Wife divorced me in secret. How to prove it?

    I admit it's a weird case, but none of those assumptions are correct, as far as my understanding goes. It's two ceremonies and two legal systems, but the same marriage (between the same two people). The legality - presumably by international convention - is that termination in one country...
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    Wife divorced me in secret. How to prove it?

    It was necessary to remarry in the UK because the Indonesian ceremony we had is apparently not in itself enough to allow an Indonesian to live in the UK. We had no choice about it. As mentioned, to get a divorce in the UK requires you to live there for at least six months before the courts can...
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    Wife divorced me in secret. How to prove it?

    What I've been informed about my situation is that to be able to remarry I need a letter from the British embassy stating that I am free to do so. To get that clearance, anyone who has been previously married simply has to show proof of a divorce, so I just need a certified copy of the akta...
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    Wife divorced me in secret. How to prove it?

    I'm hoping not, just to get hold of the certificate, but I could always give them her parents' old address. They were both from bigshot families during the Sukarno-Suharto era - don't know if that still counts for anything... :)
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    Wife divorced me in secret. How to prove it?

    Appreciate the try but that's not me. Derek is not my real name - it comes from the old Basil Brush show - sorry.
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    Wife divorced me in secret. How to prove it?

    Not in Indonesia because I don't live there. I could do that in the UK but I'm told I would have to go back and reside there for at least six months before the courts will deal with it - and that's not going to happen.
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    Wife divorced me in secret. How to prove it?

    That would have been great - her name is totally unique and should be easy to find - but I'm not finding anything. My best guess is that the divorce took place between 2005 and 2008 (yes, I've let it drift that long) and unfortunately that seems to be out of range for these records. No doubt...
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    Wife divorced me in secret. How to prove it?

    Thanks, but I think simply finding her wouldn't help. The last time I saw her (at her parents' house some years ago) she just ran out and disappeared and her parents (who always liked me well enough) were too old to do anything. She and her current husband are no doubt afraid I could cause big...

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