Do I have to have travel/health insurance?

[rams1980]

So the rules change so quickly and information is inacurate and scarce. At the moment there is a $100,000 USD minimum insurance cover requirement to go to Indonesia, but my interpretation is that's aimed at B211 visa holders like for tourists visiting Bali or Riau Islands from the list of approved countries. Link

KITAS holders who are basically migrants surely wouldn't be expected to have tourist type travel insurance? I've got a C317 VITAS (Family limited stay visa,AKA KITAS) which is valid for a year. Surely they don't expect a whole years worth of travel insurance? But I can't find this stated anywhere official. I'm flying from London on Saturday 5/2/22

Anyone have any advise please, like very recent experience or decent links.

Cheers

 

[R Cameron]

The insurance requirement is 25,000 USD and only required for tourists (and tourism was added last year to B211 purposes).
Section F.15. here: https://covid19.go.id/artikel/2022/02/02/surat-edaran-kasatgas-nomor-4-tahun-2022

I also know personally several KITAS holders who entered in the past month and were not ever asked about insurance.

 

[gemima]

So the rules change so quickly and information is inacurate and scarce. At the moment there is a $100,000 USD minimum insurance cover requirement to go to Indonesia, but my interpretation is that's aimed at B211 visa holders like for tourists visiting Bali or Riau Islands from the list of approved countries. Link

KITAS holders who are basically migrants surely wouldn't be expected to have tourist type travel insurance? I've got a C317 VITAS (Family limited stay visa,AKA KITAS) which is valid for a year. Surely they don't expect a whole years worth of travel insurance? But I can't find this stated anywhere official. I'm flying from London on Saturday 5/2/22

Anyone have any advise please, like very recent experience or decent links.

Cheers

I arrived in early Jan and they didn't need to see anything other than my passport - everyone else in the Foreigner queue was on B211 visas and getting a grilling on their documents. That rule applies to them not the KITAS - we need insurance to get our KITAS anyway so this is already counted in.

 

[ChrisTex]

I arrived in early Jan and they didn't need to see anything other than my passport - everyone else in the Foreigner queue was on B211 visas and getting a grilling on their documents. That rule applies to them not the KITAS - we need insurance to get our KITAS anyway so this is already counted in.

I arrived around the same time in Jan as Gemina and the same thing happened. I showed my KITAP card and passport. Never blinked or asked for any insurance information.

 

[Helpful Herbert]

As someone with a family kitap no one has ever asked for proof of insurance, either during the application process or at the airport.

 

[rams1980]

The insurance requirement is 25,000 USD and only required for tourists (and tourism was added last year to B211 purposes).
Section F.15. here: https://covid19.go.id/artikel/2022/02/02/surat-edaran-kasatgas-nomor-4-tahun-2022

I also know personally several KITAS holders who entered in the past month and were not ever asked about insurance.

That's a completely new one to me?! Never seen $25k before, $100k is plastered over loads of websites including Indonesian government ones, definitely for tourists. They just don't don't explain KITAS rules well. Not sure about your source on that, the link is broken. Thanks though.

 

[rams1980]

I arrived in early Jan and they didn't need to see anything other than my passport - everyone else in the Foreigner queue was on B211 visas and getting a grilling on their documents. That rule applies to them not the KITAS - we need insurance to get our KITAS anyway so this is already counted in.

Cool... that's reassuring. I'll just try and keep a low profile and cruise through immigration..lol I didn't need to show insurance to get my VITAS, had to get my wife as sponsor to sign a letter saying I would be financally independent for medical and living as I cannot work on this visa. Uploaded a bank statement but the minimum required in it was very low not $25k, just a few thousand, forget the exact amount.

 

[rams1980]

As someone with a family kitap no one has ever asked for proof of insurance, either during the application process or at the airport.

It's more of a recent thing to show you have cover for covid hospitalisation. Have you been through immigration in the last couple of months? Indonesia...rules unclear, change all the time but rarely enforced anyway lol

 

[R Cameron]

That's a completely new one to me?! Never seen $25k before, $100k is plastered over loads of websites including Indonesian government ones, definitely for tourists. They just don't don't explain KITAS rules well. Not sure about your source on that, the link is broken. Thanks though.

I believe it was initially $100k when several months ago they announced opening for tourists with direct flights from 19 select countries. That never really happened because Omicron hit the world news just a few weeks later. And at some point they lowered the amount to a more reasonable $25k

My link above is the official government website with the official government regulation. Try the link again, it's working for me. Or just google "Surat Edaran Kasatgas Nomor 4 Tahun 2022", here is another government site hosting the same document: https://jdih.maritim.go.id/cfind/source/files/surat-edaran/se-ka-satgas-nomor-4-tahun-2022.pdf

It sounds like you may be new to the country and your wife Indonesian, if you can't read the document have her read section F.15. It says for purposes of tourism travelers (from 19 approved countries, different document) may enter Bali or Riau, must have negative test, a valid visa, health insurance covering 25000USD, and booked accommodations for their whole stay in Indonesia.

 

[Helpful Herbert]

It's more of a recent thing to show you have cover for covid hospitalisation. Have you been through immigration in the last couple of months?

Yes, in December.

 

[rams1980]

I believe it was initially $100k when several months ago they announced opening for tourists with direct flights from 19 select countries. That never really happened because Omicron hit the world news just a few weeks later. And at some point they lowered the amount to a more reasonable $25k

My link above is the official government website with the official government regulation. Try the link again, it's working for me. Or just google "Surat Edaran Kasatgas Nomor 4 Tahun 2022", here is another government site hosting the same document: https://jdih.maritim.go.id/cfind/source/files/surat-edaran/se-ka-satgas-nomor-4-tahun-2022.pdf

It sounds like you may be new to the country and your wife Indonesian, if you can't read the document have her read section F.15. It says for purposes of tourism travelers (from 19 approved countries, different document) may enter Bali or Riau, must have negative test, a valid visa, health insurance covering 25000USD, and booked accommodations for their whole stay in Indonesia.

Oh ok, well they haven't communicated that well then! Anyway we entered Jakarta yesterday and it was an absolute nightmare that took 4 hours, but insurance was not asked for which was good as I didn't have any! I guess the $25k is for Bali for tourists from the 19 countries or they're just not really enforcing it. Hard to tell. We had all our visa and covid docs in order but the wait to get pcr test in was 2 hours. After long flights from UK they just moved us to different holding areas 3 times before covid document checks then pcr testing, took 2 hours. Then another 2 hours going through the normal immigration as they only had 3 staff doing foreigners. They were 6 staff doing Nationals but the National queue was empty and they didn't help. Absolute joke.

The irony is that they are doing this in the name of covid but they're probably making it worse but packing so many people togther for such a long time. They were militantly keeping everyone distanced in the holding areas but in the immigration queue we were all in a tightlky packed line for 2 hours... so what's the frigging point? People need to get a grip on reality. Our experience was London Gatwick airport couldn't care less about maks or anything, think they're just happy everyone has to pay passenger drop of charges now lol. Emirates strict on masks until first food comes out, then not too uptight. Dubai airport are strict on masks but everthing else is cool and easy. Indonesia so far somewhat totalitarian.

 

[snpark]

You dont have any insurance?! Wow. Good luck if you do get it then

 

[rams1980]

You dont have any insurance?! Wow. Good luck if you do get it then

Us Tottenhams fans are made of stronger stuff mate and not as scared as your lot

 

[fastpitch17]

You dont have any insurance?! Wow. Good luck if you do get it then

He didn't say he didn't have any insurance, ge said no one asked. He doesn't need insurance for immigration purposes because he is not a tourist. His wife sponsors his kitas.

 

[snpark]

He didn't say he didn't have any insurance, ge said no one asked. He doesn't need insurance for immigration purposes because he is not a tourist. His wife sponsors his kitas.

insurance was not asked for which was good as I didn't have any!

 

[Balifrog]

You dont have any insurance?! Wow. Good luck if you do get it then

Chances of "catching" it are very low. If you catch it, chances that it turns into being critically ill are very, very, very low.
Now this being said it is much safer to have an insurance when travelling, but not mainly because of the Covid risk. Plenty other dangers out there !

 

[rams1980]

Chances of "catching" it are very low. If you catch it, chances that it turns into being critically ill are very, very, very low.
Now this being said it is much safer to have an insurance when travelling, but not mainly because of the Covid risk. Plenty other dangers out there !

True that Balifrog! Yep loads of real dangers to worry about. In fact, one has about a 99% of catching the dreaded gravy bum in any Asian country. Luckily they're not swab testing everyone for that as well.

 

[make_batik_great_again]

I arrived in early Jan and they didn't need to see anything other than my passport - everyone else in the Foreigner queue was on B211 visas and getting a grilling on their documents. That rule applies to them not the KITAS - we need insurance to get our KITAS anyway so this is already counted in.

For KITAS we need insurance? I cannot remember that I was asked if I had insurance when I applied for KITAS last time. Or is that a new rule due to the Corona crisis?

 

[gemima]

For KITAS we need insurance? I cannot remember that I was asked if I had insurance when I applied for KITAS last time. Or is that a new rule due to the Corona crisis?

I have had to show proof of insurance for all my KITAS renewals (work kitas- i have no idea about marriage one).
I'm signed up to the BPJS scheme and I also have my own private insurance which we submit at renewal.

 

[Will_M]

Last month was the first time I have ever been asked for my health insurance card. This was my fifth renewal. I wouldn’t live in indo without insurance.