Perhaps, A Ray Of Light For Indonesia's Future

[fastpitch17]

Hopefully, there are millions more like this brave young lady. One can only hope that the future of Indonesia is more in a person's like this hands then what is the norm today.

An 18-year-old high school student from Banyuwangi, East Java, named Afi Nihaya Faradisa has become a celebrated figure in Indonesia recently due to her very mature outlook on tolerance at a time when the country seems to need reminding about it most.

https://coconuts.co/jakarta/news/in...hreats-writing-tolerance-goes-viral-facebook/

 

[Davita]

FP your link doesn't work for me.....error 404.

 

[fastpitch17]

FP your link doesn't work for me.....error 404.

This is what I get. Coconuts Jakarta
https://coconuts.co/jakarta/news/in...hreats-writing-tolerance-goes-viral-facebook/

I went back an reentered in in the OP.

 

[Davita]

Thanks FP...all good now.
She surely is brave but this intolerance was not like that in older days...my wife (59) was born into a Protestant family but not all her intermarried relatives are Protestant...her sister is a Bahai and some other relatives converted to Muslim and others converted to Christian. She tells me most of her neighbors, when she was growing up, were Muslim and they played with each other with no problems. Religion didn't affect them and wasn't an issue.

 

[nosox]

We can only hope thinking of this sort will spread, but my hopes are not high

 

[kratos]

She got a death threat and blocked facebook account now

 

[Anglian]

A brave girl indeed, I hope she has no problems, but there are some real nut cases out there wishing her harm

 

[Nimbus]

There's a lot more like her, just without the courage to speak up.

 

[kratos]

There's a lot more like her, just without the courage to speak up.

fpi rizig and Islamic fatwa defenders is now launching social media patrol to deal with people who speak up.....

threaten to jail them

can't beat them if we don't unite

 

[fastpitch17]

Thanks FP...all good now.
She surely is brave but this intolerance was not like that in older days...my wife (59) was born into a Protestant family but not all her intermarried relatives are Protestant...her sister is a Bahai and some other relatives converted to Muslim and others converted to Christian. She tells me most of her neighbors, when she was growing up, were Muslim and they played with each other with no problems. Religion didn't affect them and wasn't an issue.

Similar for my wife. My wife 63 was born into a family with Muslim Mother and Sikh Father. They were told that as they got older they would choose what religion they wanted to follow. They had many friends of all religions growing up on the outskirts of Palembang. Many friends from the Oil Company Compound from Europe and the US. While her father had a company issued residence in the compound and the children stayed there from time to time so they could use the pool and some of the company benefits that came with her father being head of security. Most time for the children was spent in the little town on Sungai Gerong where her Mother maintained a store and living quarters. Friends from this area were Indonesian and Chinese. The only problems the children ever had was from the local schools and were sent outdoors to sit in whatever weather there was at that time because they were refused entry to the Islamic courses. They didn't mind and just found things to do. The other pressures came from their Mother's side of the family because it was a mixed marriage. They created a lot of problems for the children and treated them very harshly. All my wife's siblings have signed on to Islam now. Mainly because of marriage. The oldest of which was her brother who married later in life and waited until then to convert mainly from pressure from one sister. The same one that introduced him to his wife to be. My wife while never converting does have Islam on her KTP. Again to thank the sister who was with her when getting a new one who had it put there. My wife remembers there were absolutely no hijabs when she was growing up. Everyone got along and no one even mentioned religion in public. They were what they were and religion was a family thing.

 

[fastpitch17]

Another ray comes shinning through.

Wearing a red hijab and all-encompassing gown, Sakdiyah Maruf cuts an unusual figure in a dark, smokey Jakarta bar as she reels off taboo-breaking jokes to laughter from a rapt audience.

https://coconuts.co/jakarta/feature...le-muslim-comic-indonesia-standing-extremism/

 

[Davita]

Some good news.....https://coconuts.co/jakarta/news/ri...t-not-return-indonesia-joko-widodo-president/

Rizieq will not return while Jokowi is President...if he wins re-election n 2019 that means this clown will not return till 2024. A very good reason for the electorate to consider their vote.

 

[fastpitch17]

Some good news.....https://coconuts.co/jakarta/news/ri...t-not-return-indonesia-joko-widodo-president/

Rizieq will not return while Jokowi is President...if he wins re-election n 2019 that means this clown will not return till 2024. A very good reason for the electorate to consider their vote.

Passports are only good for 5 years. What's he going to do when that expires?

 

[Davita]

Passports are only good for 5 years. What's he going to do when that expires?

I understand he has bigger problems than his passport expiring in future...I'm sure he has friends that can provide alternate citizenship. My wife says she read they are going to 'red flag' him to Interpol. Saudi is a signatory, I believe, so it will be up to them to ensure his return to face the courts.

 

[Anglian]

I understand he has bigger problems than his passport expiring in future...I'm sure he has friends that can provide alternate citizenship. My wife says she read they are going to 'red flag' him to Interpol. Saudi is a signatory, I believe, so it will be up to them to ensure his return to face the courts.

That would be a terrible loss of face if the Saudi's returned him, let's hope they do

 

[Davita]

I confess to know nowt about Interpol so looked it up.
I'm not sure that they can even interfere as he hasn't been charged with any crime...and certainly not guilty of anything....so it might be seen as political or religious...and Interpol is supposed to be neutral in those cases.

It's a bit like the twisted case of Julian Assange still holed up in the Ecuador Embassy in London even tho' the Swedes have dropped all charges...he is still wanted by the Brits for jumping bail.

 

[fastpitch17]

He can't go on Interpol's red list until he is charged. Until then he is on I think the green list which is, if you happen to see him while conducting your everyday activities, let us know.

 

[dafluff]

Re: Rizieq. This is all a theatrical show by the government. Not sure to what end. If they really want Rizieq back, all they have to do is tell the Saudi's that his passport has been cancelled. Bam, home you go.

 

[dafluff]

Re: Rizieq. This is all a theatrical show by the government. Not sure to what end. If they really want Rizieq back, all they have to do is tell the Saudi's that his passport has been cancelled. Bam, home you go.

And now they are finally considering exactly this.

http://jakartaglobe.id/news/immigration-office-revoke-firebrand-cleric-rizieq-shihabs-passport/

 

[fastpitch17]

And now they are finally considering exactly this.

http://jakartaglobe.id/news/immigration-office-revoke-firebrand-cleric-rizieq-shihabs-passport/

Now, freeze all bank accounts he has access to no matter what names share them.