INFORMATION AND COMMUNITY FOR EXPATS IN INDONESIA
2026/7 school fees
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In my view we are paying too much for this "traditional education" , a system that did not improve much .
Long ago , I thought governments should hire the best teachers , record their lessons in video and then distribute through internet & to all public libraries (in DVD format , for example) , so students would download or borrow these videos (plus books) to watch/read at home .
This way all students of a country would have the (same) best teachers and at a fraction of the cost because :
1. not many more teachers would be required to just answer (online & face-to-face) some student's questions ,
2. school would not need classrooms (could be transformed into few offices for teachers + library + sports/recreational center) .
Long ago , I thought governments should hire the best teachers , record their lessons in video and then distribute through internet & to all public libraries (in DVD format , for example) , so students would download or borrow these videos (plus books) to watch/read at home .
This way all students of a country would have the (same) best teachers and at a fraction of the cost because :
1. not many more teachers would be required to just answer (online & face-to-face) some student's questions ,
2. school would not need classrooms (could be transformed into few offices for teachers + library + sports/recreational center) .
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People are also suggesting that AI bots can do that now. However, for most learners that just won’t work. Students need to collaboration and interaction of working with peers. Teachers still play a vital human role in connecting, motivating, and cajoling learners to keep improving and learning.
"Cajoling"...i love it.
That's the parents part, not the teacher.
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Unfortunately many parents outsource the job of parenting.
I disagree . I had very few "work with peers" and didn't feel them important . I used to play informal football when kid , and later futsal (5 vs 5 football) , which was really an important/pleasant human interaction experience .
In my 17 years in public schools I didn't have any teacher who did that to me .
There were just 2 teachers who I considered "different" (in a good way, but not much) .
They were all like the 'typical government's employee' , they themselves demotivated (probably due to the #relatively lower salary) .
My worse teachers (in university) were PhD (the highest academic research degree) , all were bad communicators and used to give us bad grades (ironically , at least in my country , a university reputation depends on the number of its PhD teachers) .
Note : 'typical government's employee' (in my country) as my definition (as an ex-government employee myself) is the uncontrollable worker who does the minimum just to 'save face (even this minimum being easy to achieve because the whole environment already ended up in a very low level) .
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# ... Teachers often have a master’s degree or at least a tertiary qualification and in almost all countries, and at almost all levels of education, teachers’ actual salaries are lower than those of tertiary-educated workers. In primary education, average salaries are 13% lower than those of other tertiary graduates, while at upper secondary level the gap is still 5% ..
in (very) few countries (Australia, Costa Rica, Lithuania and Portugal) teachers earn more than adults with tertiary qualifications .. or only at certain levels (Finland , the Flemish Community of Belgium, and in Germany) ... (https://www.oecd.org/content/dam/oe...ers-salaries-tell-us_449e60c7/de0196b5-en.pdf - What do OECD data on teachers’salaries tell us? , 2023)
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Sorry, you had a bad experience. That doesn’t mean schooling as we know it will suddenly be replaced by AI chat bots.
Not only me but probably all my country's students (and in many countries) .
It is not what I suggested in my post no.3 above .
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