Dress Code

[Dave70]

Why's that? Hey look who liked your post. It's confirmed the attitude's in his head.

First of all, liking a comment doesn’t necessarily mean agreeing to the comment. Sometimes I leave a like on comments that are responding to my concerns. Nothing more, nothing less.

Regarding Balifrog’s comment (post #18), I admired his straight-forward, no-nonsense response to something we have in common. I will be uncomfortable too if a woman in niqab come to my house. Why? Because my house is inhabited by a pork-eating alcohol-drinking dog-owning non-Muslim family.

Let me tell you a story that happened long ago. We used to throw parties at home and we invited both Muslims (includes hijab-wearers) and non-Muslims. Of course, all food/drinks were halal. Then we heard through the grapevine that friends of friends were concerned that our pots & pans had been used to cook pork as well. That’s it, no more parties at home. My wife also stopped giving cakes & pies she bakes herself at home.

Nevertheless, the kindest person I have ever met in my life is a Muslim, right here in Indonesia. And the worst human I have ever met is a Christian. What a great irony because I am a Christian, but don’t count on me to convert to Islam, not in a thousand years. BTW, our most trustworthy employees are Muslims too.

Let me ask you Bob, do you ever have niqab-wearing women visiting your house?

 

[Balifrog]

What a great irony because I am a Christian, but don’t count on me to convert to Islam, not in a thousand years. BTW, our most trustworthy employees are Muslims too.

I was a workshop manager in BKK for years..
My most reliable staff was muslim from the South of Thailand.
The worst ? Issan region Northern region.
In construction a few decades ago we had a lot of Algerians. When we made a BBQ on site we always had 2 different. One without any pork.

 

[jstar]

And the worst human I have ever met is…

That hurt Dave.

 

[Bob]

Why's that ?
Simply we would have NOTHING in common and it would make me very unconfortable.
It would be same with any person extremist in any religion.
My Hindu companion wears a Gstring at the pool in our resort, now that's much nicer to look at....
Same for my ex (Thai) Gstring and topless at the beach.
To each his own, but I wouldn't go live in a Mormon community for example...

And your comment about who liked my post was not really nice !

That's of course your business and your prerogative. Personally I don't exclude people based on appearance, MLM logos and certain tattoos excepted. Getting to know someone doesn't mean we have to follow them, and we can learn from those with different perspectives, but that's just my view.
The comment was accurate. What's not nice is bigotry. It's an imperfect world, innit?

 

[Bob]

First of all, liking a comment doesn’t necessarily mean agreeing to the comment. Sometimes I leave a like on comments that are responding to my concerns. Nothing more, nothing less.

Regarding Balifrog’s comment (post #18), I admired his straight-forward, no-nonsense response to something we have in common. I will be uncomfortable too if a woman in niqab come to my house. Why? Because my house is inhabited by a pork-eating alcohol-drinking dog-owning non-Muslim family.

Let me tell you a story that happened long ago. We used to throw parties at home and we invited both Muslims (includes hijab-wearers) and non-Muslims. Of course, all food/drinks were halal. Then we heard through the grapevine that friends of friends were concerned that our pots & pans had been used to cook pork as well. That’s it, no more parties at home. My wife also stopped giving cakes & pies she bakes herself at home.

Nevertheless, the kindest person I have ever met in my life is a Muslim, right here in Indonesia. And the worst human I have ever met is a Christian. What a great irony because I am a Christian, but don’t count on me to convert to Islam, not in a thousand years. BTW, our most trustworthy employees are Muslims too.

Let me ask you Bob, do you ever have niqab-wearing women visiting your house?

As a matter of fact, yes. And people wearing crucifixes, Buddhist and Taoist amulets, stars of David, and bindis. Why do you ask?

 

[Balifrog]

Personally I don't exclude people based on appearance, MLM logos and certain tattoos excepted.

Ok, we have our differences.
My companion has plenty tattoos and I love it. And it are not "religious" tattoos.....
Funny enough, I don't have any.

 

[Dave70]

As a matter of fact, yes. And people wearing crucifixes, Buddhist and Taoist amulets, stars of David, and bindis. Why do you ask?

Okay, the niqab-wearing woman entering your house must have been accompanied by her husband or father, am I right? She's not supposed to visit someone alone, if there's male in the house. And she won't be shaking your hands. Or eat/drink other than bottled water.

 

[Hawk256]

Okay, the niqab-wearing woman entering your house must have been accompanied by her husband or father, am I right? She's not supposed to visit someone alone, if there's male in the house. And she won't be shaking your hands. Or eat/drink other than bottled water.

Assume all those things are true. What is the problem? Why does it bother you so much?

 

[Dave70]

Assume all those things are true. What is the problem? Why does it bother you so much?

Who says there's a problem? No niqab-wearing woman ever visited my house, only hijab-wearers, so what's the problem?

 

[Bob]

Okay, the niqab-wearing woman entering your house must have been accompanied by her husband or father, am I right? She's not supposed to visit someone alone, if there's male in the house. And she won't be shaking your hands. Or eat/drink other than bottled water.

She was with colleagues if it matters.
Why wouldn't she eat or drink other than bottled water? Not everyone from the West eats pork. People are individuals, think different thoughts, and wear what they wear from different motivations. You seem prone to stereotyping.

 

[Balifrog]

She was with colleagues if it matters.
Why wouldn't she eat or drink other than bottled water? Not everyone from the West eats pork. People are individuals, think different thoughts, and wear what they wear from different motivations. You seem prone to stereotyping.

I have worked / lived in Cairo, Saudi, Dubai, and Malaysia.
NEVER any staff wore the Niqab.
In my Missus village, 80% Muslim, I never saw any women dressed like that.

Bloody hell, the Covid mask masquerade was bad enough !

 

[Hawk256]

I have worked / lived in Cairo, Saudi, Dubai, and Malaysia.
NEVER any staff wore the Niqab.
In my Missus village, 80% Muslim, I never saw any women dressed like that.

Bloody hell, the Covid mask masquerade was bad enough !

I will say this and then bow out. My wife has plenty of friends and a sister in law that wear the Niqab. Their views are basically no different except my wife's choice not to veil. Other than wearing the Niqab they are no different. It's a singe choice out of many. Not sure how that squares your beliefs but it feels very much like stereotyping. We usually agree but seem far apart on this one.