Shortage of 498,000 teachers in Indonesia next year?

[serious_fun]

The Ministry of Primary and Secondary Education said that there will be a shortage of almost 500,000 teachers across Indo next year after considering retirement.

In 2019, Indonesia’s schools needed to hire a million full-time teachers. But the roles were often filled by contract teachers, who lacked quality assurance.

from this blog. One could spin the recruitment of almost 500,000 'teaching staff' within 7 years as a success, but lack of teacher training is a genuine problem.

Perhaps the military could be called in?

 

[Wally]

I worked for over 20 years with the Indonesian central and local governments to improve the allocation and education of teachers. For years Indonesia had a more favourable student : teacher than many (or most) other countries. The problem is the distribution of those teachers:

• Some schools simply have more teachers than they need and local governments are reluctant/afraid to redeploy them to those lacking teachers because teachers don't want to teach in remote areas (where the vacancies are)
• Primary schools expect to have a teacher for every grade (i.e. six teachers) however few students they have. Most countries expect teachers in small schools to teach more than one grade at the same time (multigrade teaching)
• Many secondary school teachers refiuse or claim they are unable to teach more than one subject. The irony is that grade 6 primary school teachers teach every subject, while many grade 7 teachers claim to be only able to teach one subject. Most countries expect secondary school teachers to teach at least 2 subjects
• There are a lot of qualified teachers who are contracted by schools or local government using their own funds rather than being employed as civil servants. They fill in the gaps as well as filling in for civil servant teachers who are simply not doing their jobs. They could be employed on permanent contracts.

This was the situation 3 or 4 years ago before I retired. It may have changed but I doubt it

 

[serious_fun]

I worked for over 20 years with the Indonesian central and local governments to improve the allocation and education of teachers.

Thank you for your intelligent reply!

In your experience is the organization of the various types of schools ( National, National Plus, Madrassah, International, Boarding, etc., etc.) a part of the problem of allocation? Or perhaps the International and religious schools aren't even included in the equation due to their innate independence ?

 

[Helpful Herbert]

I realized the other day that I have never actually seen an adult Muslim read a book, except the one book in a language they barely understand, which they seem to 'read' every day. Reading for pleasure is just not part of the culture.
I'm sure this is a reflection of how poor the education system is. Unfortunately I don't think this can be changed in a few years or even a few decades, regardless of how many teachers there are.

 

[harryopal1]

I wonder to what extent the digital zeitgeis is being analysed regarding its impact on learning. Whenever travelling I read but rarely see another traveller reading. As for students it is said that the addictive impact of social media is even changing the mindsets of students who then struggle to read long texts, skim rather than analyse, expect constant stimulation and find slower learning processes frustrating. And increasingly I guess we will see these patterns with teachers. So how well equipped are teachers coping with all of this and what then are the implications for training of future teachers?

 

[Balifrog]

I wonder to what extent the digital zeitgeis is being analysed regarding its impact on learning. Whenever travelling I read but rarely see another traveller reading. As for students it is said that the addictive impact of social media is even changing the mindsets of students who then struggle to read long texts, skim rather than analyse, expect constant stimulation and find slower learning processes frustrating. And increasingly I guess we will see these patterns with teachers. So how well equipped are teachers coping with all of this and what then are the implications for training of future teachers?

Back to books - Sweden's schools cutting back on digital learning

Swedish classrooms swap laptops for books, pens and paper, raising concerns from the tech sector.

www.bbc.com

Slowly some countries start to understand.....

 

[Balifrog]

I read regulary.
A few of my books.

 

[Wisnu]

I read regulary.
A few of my books.
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And I still take notes by hand

 

[Balifrog]

And I still take notes by hand

Same.

But my grocery shopping list I use an app.

Simply because if I do it the old way, it's only in the supermarket that I realize I left the written list on the table.
Not even speaking about the pen...
The phone I am about sure it's in the pocket.

 

[Hawk256]

I realized the other day that I have never actually seen an adult Muslim read a book, except the one book in a language they barely understand, which they seem to 'read' every day. Reading for pleasure is just not part of the culture.
I'm sure this is a reflection of how poor the education system is. Unfortunately I don't think this can be changed in a few years or even a few decades, regardless of how many teachers there are.

How ofter to you observe Muslims in their home relaxing? Most I know have shelfs full of books. There is also this new fangled thing called ebooks. Not sure why you choose to pick on a certain religion but it gets old quick. You are very offensive and for what?

 

[serious_fun]

I realized the other day that I have never actually seen an adult Muslim read a book, except the one book in a language they barely understand, which they seem to 'read' every day. Reading for pleasure is just not part of the culture.
I'm sure this is a reflection of how poor the education system is. Unfortunately I don't think this can be changed in a few years or even a few decades, regardless of how many teachers there are.

Ja, recreational reading is rarely seen in my area. The local libraries are a disgrace too...

HOWEVER methinks that this is a socio-economic issue, very similar to the lack of fine art in my area as I complained about in this thread:

https://www.expatindo.org/community/threads/fine-arts-groups-in-west-java.7307/

 

[serious_fun]

I read regulary.
A few of my books.
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We share some of the same books. 'The Jakarta Method' should be required reading IMHO.

The film adaptation of 'First They Killed My Father' was excellent. Very moving

 

[Helpful Herbert]

How ofter to you observe Muslims in their home relaxing?

How often? Every single day for over 12 years. Not just the family but extended family, guests, going to other people's and extended family's houses etc. Never once seen any of them read a book. But that one particular book, every single day. My theory is they are still trying to work out what the funny squiggles mean.

 

[Hawk256]

How often? Every single day for over 12 years. Not just the family but extended family, guests, going to other people's and extended family's houses etc. Never once seen any of them read a book. But that one particular book, every single day. My theory is they are still trying to work out what the funny squiggles mean.

Most people don't read in from of guests or maybe its the crowd you choose to hand around with? You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about Muslims as seen in your other posts as well. Why choose to live in the most populous Muslim nation in the world if you have a problem with them?

 

[Balifrog]

Never seen a book in my companion's home or at any of her brothers place. Not even a cartoon.
Not surprising considering the cost of books and their very low income.

Anyway the young generation has Tiktok and F.B. now for their "education" .....

 

[Bad_azz]

Literacy is being heavily pushed in many schools & it is an uphill battle.
I know of several (none international type schools) that actually have a separate section of a day set aside purely for literacy- sitting down and reading a book either alone or as a class activity.

Sadly for many (worldwide) , actual book reading is in decline.
E-books are not new-fangled, they have been out for the past 15 years or more.
A long time ago, I swore I would never get into them as I had a collection of near 2000 books at home, and then I moved to Indonesia and my books did not.
Kindle all the way now!
I can't say I am an avid reader as that would be the understatement of the century, I likely read a book every day or 2 days- unless I am insanely busy (which I am just now- I think it has taken me a month to finish the 600 page book I was reading).

Anyway- yes I know of lots of Indonesians of all religious backgrounds who do read- for fun.
BUT most people these days are just blindly addicted to their smart phones and the reels/shorts/games.
It makes me feel quite sad for these younger generations.

As for teachers, the quality of them and the lack of them, I guess I would prefer fewer bums on seats if the ones on the seats were of high quality.
I have met some great teachers over the years and I have met some that would be locked up in many other countries for child abuse.
Hopefully Indonesia does get the education system up to a high standard.
I think out of the thousands of youngsters I have met over the years, 3 or 4 of them said they want to be teachers - so I doubt this next generation is planning on filling the gaps.

 

[Helpful Herbert]

Most people don't read in from of guests or maybe its the crowd you choose to hand around with? You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about Muslims as seen in your other posts as well. Why choose to live in the most populous Muslim nation in the world if you have a problem with them?

I want to help them improve to make the country better in the future. Don't you think it is a worthwhile aim to try and help a country improve on its weaknesses? How can this country ever become developed with an education system like this, and with people who completely ignore regulations on noise pollution? Even just drawing attention to these issues helps to raise consciousness of the problem.

 

[Balifrog]

I want to help them improve to make the country better in the future. Don't you think it is a worthwhile aim to try and help a country improve on its weaknesses? How can this country ever become developed with an education system like this, and with people who completely ignore regulations on noise pollution? Even just drawing attention to these issues helps to raise consciousness of the problem.

It's not our job or our responsability.
Do it with your kids, that's enough.

And I know the subject as I have 3 kids with my ex Thai wife. Now all adult, but always been French educated.
Was a bit of a clash with the ex mother in law, but I made things clear from the beginning.
Dont even think about sending them to the temple.
I put them in decent schools.
The fact that my ex has spend a few years in UNI in France helped as she knew I was right.

My actual companion has a grandson 6 years old and when I see how he is brought up, it is sad. Zero future...
But is none of my business.
Keep it simple. I am not a missionary....

 

[pantaiema]

How ofter to you observe Muslims in their home relaxing? Most I know have shelfs full of books.

This is what happens when someone only observes their immediate surroundings, makes generalisations, and keeps assuming that their experience reflects nationwide practices.

In Indonesia, especially in big cities, many families including extended families, children, and grandchildren have to live together in crowded shared houses because they cannot afford to buy or rent homes in urban areas. Where are they supposed to put all those books, bookshelves when even finding enough sleeping space for everyone is already difficult? How do they get a spare cash to buy books which are not a basic need ?

Besides, many books and learning materials are now available in electronic or online formats. All people really need are mobile devices such as smartphones, tablets. Laptops.

How often? Every single day for over 12 years. Not just the family but extended family, guests, going to other people's and extended family's houses etc. Never once seen any of them read a book. But that one particular book, every single day. My theory is they are still trying to work out what the funny squiggles mean.

Never seen a book in my companion's home or at any of her brothers place. Not even a cartoon.
Not surprising considering the cost of books and their very low income.

Anyway the young generation has Tiktok and F.B. now for their "education" .....

What about a bookshelf FULL OF BOOKS.

 

[Hawk256]

What about a bookshelf FULL OF BOOKS.

In all fairness, the Mulslims that I spend time with are not poor and would probably be considered well off. Maybe that skews my perspective. Still doesn't account for ebooks or internet study though.