Old deportation

[Tabloj]

Greetings to all members, in 2013, 12 years ago, I was residing in Jakarta and I got involved with a person who was working as a residency permit holder. Unfortunately, he did not issue me a residency permit, so I left voluntarily without imprisonment or anything. A deportation stamp was placed on my old passport, but my fingerprints were not taken because they informed me that the ban was for 6 months. I heard through your forum that the 6 months are automatically renewed indefinitely if the deported person does not visit the Immigration Department. I have not returned since then. How can I know if my name is still on the ban list or not, or can I apply for a tourist visa, and if they give me the visa, does that mean I am no longer banned? I contacted the company in the forum above, but I did not receive an answer from them. Note that I do not have anyone to help me in Jakarta and Indonesia now. Thank you very much, and I appreciate people with experience giving me advice and information

 

[marcus]

... How can I know if my name is still on the ban list or not,

I don't know the best way but I heard of 2 relevant information about this problem (assuming you were deported due to overstaying you stay permit/visa) :

1) Paying the Rp90 million administrative fee :
From https://www.expatindo.org/community/threads/deportation-and-revoke-blacklist.7650/#post-1089999
Its post no.10 from Atlantis (Feb 2025) : [... Since Desember 2024 the legal fee for what is called Pencabutan Penangkalan bagi Warga Negara Asing yang Ditangkal karena Overstay Lebih dari 60 Hari atau Tidak Membayar Biaya Beban" is Rp 90 juta.

Note that this fee (should) apply only to those who have been deported and blacklisted for an overstay of more than 60 days or those who have been deported and blacklisted for an overstay of less than 60 days but refused or couldn't pay the denda administartif related to their overstay.]

or can I apply for a tourist visa, and if they give me the visa, does that mean I am no longer banned? ...

2) It is possible that the Indonesian Immigration's online visa system (evisa.imigrasi.go.id) already take in consideration this kind of data . I say that because a Forum's member (I don't have a copy of/link to his post) requested a visa there and he was informed that he had to first solve a pendency (he didn't get an 'EPO/Exit Only Permit' in the past) .

This is the (freely translated) message he got :
[The visa application for the foreigner above is postponed with the following information: "Please return the immigration document in the form of ITAS or ITAP (attaching proof of EPO/REP) holded by the foreigner to the issuing immigration office."

Please complete the documents according to the reason for the delay and return them via email correspondence to [email protected] within 7 (seven) days of receipt. If the guarantor does not complete the delayed documents within the specified time, the visa application will be rejected.

So, thank you.]

 

[jstar]

I’m afraid this article is not really up-to-date anymore:

Blacklisted from Indonesia? How to return legally - Expat Indo

Advice on how to deal with a blacklisting from Indonesia, petitioning immigration to remove your name from the blacklist and return legally.

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There was a new law, No. 63 of 2024. They call it the Third Amendment of Law No. 6 of 2011 on Immigration.

Press release Immigration 🎫 🛂

https://www.imigrasi.go.id/siaran_pers/2024/09/20/silmy-karim-revisi-uu-imigrasi-untuk-penguatan-pengawasan-wna-dan-perbaikan-pelayanan Indonesia's immigration law has been revised and the new law has been in force since 19 September 2024. A total of nine changes have been made. The following...

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One of the things in there was the extended entry ban period:
The entry ban period is extended from up to 6 months (with 6-month extensions) to up to 10 years, with possible further extensions of up to 10 years each time. That could be very good (or bad) news for you.

Besides that, passports have changed, systems have been replaced, etc. etc. Of course I’ve personally not been in your situation but the question is if a formal request to the Directorate General of Immigration in Jakarta to clear your name (eventually) from the blacklist will be processed, and the agents charge you an arm and a leg, embassies don’t react…. So your idea of applying for a tourist visa up front seems to make sense. Esp. since you have no Indonesian ‘sponsors’ who can help you, write a letter on your behalf and so on.

 

[Tabloj]

Thank you very much marcos and jstar for the valuable information and effort you put into helping me. The best option is to apply for the visa online and wait for the results because if there is a problem it will appear.

 

[marcus]

... The best option is to apply for the visa online and wait for the results because if there is a problem it will appear.

If you do that , be informed that :
a) There is a possibility that the problem may not appear . It may depend on the officer who analyse your visa request .
b) Immigration charges for a visa before its analysis , so if the problem appears you will have only 7 days (or less if you don't check the process everyday) to solve it , otherwise you lose the visa's money .
c) If the problem does not appear , you get the visa but may be denied entry if the problem appears at the Indonesian airport .

 

[Tabloj]

If you do that , be informed that :
a) There is a possibility that the problem may not appear . It may depend on the officer who analyse your visa request .
b) Immigration charges for a visa before its analysis , so if the problem appears you will have only 7 days (or less if you don't check the process everyday) to solve it , otherwise you lose the visa's money .
c) If the problem does not appear , you get the visa but may be denied entry if the problem appears at the Indonesian airport .

Yes, I will check it every day. I have called my embassy in Jakarta and gave them a copy of my old passport. They told me that there is no problem with my name after they checked it with the immigration department. The process took a whole month to get the answer. I got the answer today, but I am still not reassured. I believe, if I am not mistaken, that the old data is removed from the system after 10 years, as jstar mentioned. I will keep you informed of the results as soon as they happen because I am working on it remotely and not with an agency.

 

[Tabloj]

From what I know, getting a tourist visa approved does not always guarantee that you're off the ban list sometimes the ban only shows up at the immigration checkpoint. To be safe, its best to contact Indonesian Immigration directly, or go through a licensed visa agent who can check your status in the system. Since its been 12 years and there was no fingerprint taken, theres a chance the ban is no longer active but better confirm before booking anything. Hope this helps!

I will have cash and my credit card ready. If there is a fine, I will try to pay it at the airport immigration office. If they deny me entry, I will not be allowed to enter. I have a business trip to Bangkok anyway. No problem. I will be close to Bangkok and fly directly to Bangkok. I will try again according to the recommendations of the Indonesian immigration officers.
Thank you

 

[Tabloj]

I am currently in Jakarta and I entered through the airport normally and I had an email ready from the embassy stating that there is no blacklist against me in case I face any problems, but they did not ask me anything or inquire about the reason for my visit. I think it is because it has been 10 years since my deportation, as jstar mentioned. Thank you very much to everyone.